RE: Your land should be your jurisdiction.

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Your land should be your jurisdiction.

in ethics •  5 years ago  (edited)

I'm but a humble taxpayer, enjoying the simple pleasures of not having to declare any sovereignty, or worse - attempt to maintain it. I delight in sipping perfectly safe tap water, sitting in my little dwelling and not worrying about being sovereign on a piece of dirt that no one gets to keep (it gets to keep us)... But here I am - worrying about sovereignty... perhaps a different kind though... how about the sovereignty of our data? After all, the only true thing that we will ever own is our identities and ideas... and they're being mined right out of our skulls... I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the sovereignty of our personal information.

As for physical property, we cannot be granted sovereignty. The fact that there is a 'grantor' negates the possibility of us ever being sovereign. To own land free of government one must take it with force and keep it through power. Unfortunately, this is where the idea of individualism brakes down - at the very least you need numbers to have power. And the moment that happens we are back to the same cycle again... I don't think we will ever go back to owning anything without a major cataclysm. and even then ownership will be maintained through barbarism, and eventually, power will cluster in the hands of a few once again and I won't be able to sip my safe tap water and pursue any pleasures beyond basic needs... So i give the uncle his dues, and while my property taxes are going up, so is the value of my check should I decide to sell it... :) its a sweet setup.

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how about the sovereignty of our data? After all, the only true thing that we will ever own is our identities and ideas... and they're being mined right out of our skulls...

I believe that falls under the umbrella of "personal sovereignty".

Nobody should be able to publish your data or show your face without paying you.

This includes youtube videos and America's Most Wanted.

And I discovered recently that your current (very weak) rights to your own image expire instantly at your death, unless those rights have been purchased by a corporation.

I believe those rights to your image and data should be inherited by your heirs.

It would be nice if we never had to worry about this stuff.

Also, you can be forced off of your land by skyrocketing taxes, and if you can't afford the taxes, the developer is unlikely to pay you "fair market value".

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

well yeah, im not saying that you will be paid a fair market price, but i still dont think that not being paid fairly justifies trying to do away with the government or taxation... however, i do believe that the current US tax system is broken and that it is not being applied effectively or spent properly. But at the end of the day, i believe that there is no way around taxation in an organized and orderly society (unless we do away with money entirely).

Oh, of course we need some sort of taxation, I'm just saying that real-estate taxes seem to be a form of de facto perpetual rent and a mechanism to evict "owners" at the whim of moneyed-interests.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

Again thank you. I see your stance way clearer after you added a bit more nuance. I think there is a big grey area between sovereign property and paying fair rent... Fair rent is definitely a more reasonable (or rather more realistic) demand than sovereignty.
Perhaps the sentiment also has to do with which states we live in... I recently saw my property tax go up but about $300 for the year, but i live in one of the comparatively low tax states... i imagine that the situation is way worse for people living in states like NY, VT, CT.

Good point.