29,000 Likes on Facebook. Financial Reward? $0.

in facebook •  8 years ago 

I saw this pop up on my Facebook today:

29,000 likes. That's a lot of attention. Facebook sold that attention to advertisers and didn't share any of the value with me (for posting stuff) or to my Facebook followers (for liking stuff).

In contrast, Steemit rewarded me 117 Steem last week just for voting on content. This curation reward is based on my vested shares in the system. I was also rewarded 498 Steem and 1171 SBD (Steem Backed Dollars) for my posts.

At current prices ($2.05 for Steem, $1.62 for SBD) that's $239 for liking stuff and $2,926 for posting stuff in ONE WEEK.

I keep pointing this stuff out to people on Facebook in hopes of getting their attention. Sure, some will come here for the money, but it's more about the value of their attention and how it's not being properly rewarded. The share holders and the users may not have the same incentives. Here on steemit, we're all users and shareholders.

I laughed quite a bit when @falkvinge was the only one to initially like my post.

Maybe that means we're doing something right here.

Thanks again for all your witness votes. We've moved up a position to 34!


Luke Stokes is a father, husband, business owner, programmer, and voluntaryist who wants to help create a world we all want to live in. Visit UnderstandingBlockchainFreedom.com

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Heh. Just got a new one today:

Keep trying, Facebook. People don't want pretty little balloons. They want to get paid.

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I come up as unknown users lol... Help?

I like what you're doing, and I think it's fun to add some gamification badges around here. I just voted for your witness. Good luck!

I know the feelin... had 413,000+ on facebook .... $0 bucks haha

The whole paradigm is shifting. I have a friend (not on Steemit yet) who knows a lot of internet celebrities and you'd think they were loaded with all the fame and attention they get. Talking to him, I've pieced together how many of them are broke. Attention is great, but unless people can convert it to sales, they can't feed their families with it. Here, on the other hand, attention turns into real value, and it's a beautiful thing.

Speaking of this shift, I've mapped out how the world is shifting. It all revolves around the "future of money". Hint: the future of money is...no money.

I disagree.

Post scarcity will never be a thing because human ambition is limitless. Therefore, we'll always have some resource constraints. The best way we've discovered to handle those constraints in this chaotic world we exist in is through price discovery and free exchange of value. Money is a ledger for keeping track of who is a beneficial actor (a dollar bill is a "certificate of appreciation") and who isn't. Money has been around a very, very long time. The book Origins of Virtue is a good read on that, if interested.

Ah yes, I get that entirely. Origins of Virtue is good, and I respect Matt Ridley.

You just hit the nail on the head: it's about scarcity. Money was designed to be scarce. DESIGNED. To mock items which are also scarce. And what on earth is scarce? Diamonds? No. Wood? No. Space for people to live? No. People only believe the Earth is scarce because this is what has been promoted and marketed to the masses...to sell them unnatural products. What the masses believe will come true to their reality, and this reality has been becoming more and more true.. We're speaking the same tongue :)

With the abundance of information, people are waking up and realizing how abundant this Earth is. Crypto is another step forward with that. I'll make a comprehensive post about this, but in the mean time I'm meditating on it to find more contextual examples to help people understand and be entertained :D Thank you for your time!

Just don't forget about human ambition. It's different in everyone. Some people will want to vacation on Mars and will pay for the opportunity.

heck yea :D

Absolutely Correct!! Looking forward with steemit! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

Exactly. I recently posted this idea, and it gave insight to others: https://steemit.com/vegan/@robertgenito/steemit-test-sneaky-mind-manipulation-found-in-dictionaries

NATURALLY, I gave this comparison to my friends on Facebook. I'd like to inspire them to join a world of abundance :) Keep it up!

Nice post.

As to clairvoyance, I'd say "supposed" is valid there since it has so far been tried and tested and found wanting. That said, it would surprise me at all if we are picking up on various things subconsciously which give us insight as to what might happen next, but my studies of how the brain works strongly convince me we find meaning even when there isn't any.

Tried and tested and found wanting....as in lacking? If that's what you're saying, look into Harold Puthoff and Russell Targ. Your mind will be in for a treat! :) Clairvoyance is proven (statistically), the CIA takes it very serious, there's even a law forbidding remote viewing on US citizens, etc. Public school systems would say otherwise :D

And thank you for enjoying the post!

Via http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

To date there has been no conclusive demonstration of "remote viewing."

Perhaps the only solid evidence that proponents have ever put forward to the validity of remote viewing is that it was once taken seriously by the intelligence community. Although really this just proves how desperate and gullible intelligence groups can be (but remember, these were people who could have just paid a bunch of people to shoot Castro, and instead preferred exploding cigars and booby-trapped sea shells).

Heheh. I'm probably not going to spend much time looking into this one.

I gotta laugh at wikipedia now. My friend, there's tons of ignorance there, and i am proof of the exact opposite of much of wikipedia's ignorance :)

I don't know if you have experience with this, but it is extremely difficult to change the status quo of thought on wikipedia. When it comes to limitless topics like remote viewing, fruitarianism, manifestation, or topics of value to censor, there's simply a strategy of people lined up to continually undo your edits without penalty, and without the need for them to discuss the topic in the Talk section. You will need equally as many people to UNDO your undo--this keeps you from being silenced ("banned"). How fair is that? How open to new information is that? It's not. It's a great example of cognitive dissonance, and it's upholding dogma and resisting change.

Wikipedia is only a collection of what we believe to be true...it is NOT an account of what we have yet to discover. When it comes to wikipedia, don't be a fool.

Russel Targ did a response to the community of wikipedia. I have experience with exactly what Russel Targ is talking about. It's annoying, and it's why I no-longer read wikipedia unless I'm referencing something I can easily find in a dated university book.

http://www.espresearch.com/russell/russell-targ-response-to-wikipedia.shtml

I didn't link to Wikipedia.

Sorry, I do not mean "wikipedia.org", I mean mediawiki, the underlying platform which makes things difficult. Btw that's not enough time to read Russell Targ's response :) Enjoy! He's one of the top American researchers on this. Great information is also available from the top Russian researcher on this, and there are also countless witness testimonies and interviews on this. I also have experience with it sooooo :D no reason to lie here, just trying to help your understanding of this universe we live in!

Okay, but that sounds a lot like this. Interesting read though. Thanks for that link.

Btw, read that first sentence on your link again, and then read the first paragraph sentence here again :D https://steemit.com/vegan/@robertgenito/steemit-test-sneaky-mind-manipulation-found-in-dictionaries

Are we back to my original comment again?

I'd say "supposed" is valid there

we both got the point here :)

Great point of view, I hope people will realize this facts and start to open accounts here. But it seems slow most of my friends even think I am crazy for not using Facebook anymore...

I still use Facebook because I recognize that's where everyone is. I share my Steemit posts there to hopefully get them interested. These things take time. Repetition is the key. Many of my friends know me as the "bitcoin guy" because I've been talking about it since 2013. Now that I've paid off my house, they are starting to listen. Some are even creating accounts here.

wow, belated congrats on buying out the house and also trying to get your friends interested, I tell my friends about steemit and they just shun it down as ponzi scheme, is there any good way I can explain of how the whole reward system works?

I'll try to cover that in http://understandingblockchainfreedom.com at some point. You could answer by asking them a question:

How did a pizza sell for 10,000 bitcoin in May of 2010 and now that is worth millions of dollars? How does that happen?

For people to understand the increasing value of cryptocurrency is quite a wild ride. It involves a full deconstruction of what money and value actually is. For many, it's not a comfortable conversation because they spend their lives trying to obtain something they don't even understand. Certificates of debt verses market supported tokens of value... it's quite a paradigm shift.

cool, just followed

I wonder why thw Facebook is example, not Reddit. Steemit can substitute reddit but not Facebook

In time, I think the Steemit model will supplant all other forms of social media. I believe people are working on various steemit versions of other social media platforms, such as a steemit instagram, youtube, and inevitably facebook as well. This site is still very much in beta itself, too!

I am brand new to Steemit and am truly seeing the value in it. The content is quality, the commenting is respectful, and people are completely decent to eachother. Much applause, very impressed. Thanks for sharing!

I like your post Luke and yeah I haven't posted or been on Facebook for years. It doesn't fit into my schedule.

From a sales perspective I think that most people on Facebook automatically assume that Steemit is some sort of MLM. Their walls are littered with people promoting MLMs. They are understandably skeptical of everything.

Don't take the fact that you got 1 Like on Facebook. It isn't a knock on your credibility.

We are only able to save the brightest individuals from the Matrix!

Steem surely is the better option for people that put in some effort in social media and content. Keep it up :)

Congratulations on your success here! I always feel inspired to read posts like this. But I am also overwhelmed quite often as a newbie. It seems I have to be a dolphin or whale to earn rewards now. I was doing okay the first two weeks (and happy with my $5-$11 rewards per post) but it seems the influx of new users makes our posts go unseen now. And by "our" I mean other minnows who joined last month. Is there a secret? LOL

I wrote this post which may help: Last Week I Made $1,500 Worth of Cryptocurrency Blogging on Steemit.

Unfortunately, there is no secret. Building a following and relationships on a new social media platform is not easy. It takes time, consistency, patience, good expectations, and quality interactions. I remember feeling the same way almost 12 months ago, watching others make it to the trending page and hoping some day I might join them. I remember taking a screenshot the first time I was even close on the trending page.

If you want, go through some of my older posts (takes a while to scroll back that far), and you may appreciate how I processed through those same feelings, realizing how important community is over rewards.

Good luck and let me know if I can help with anything or you have any questions.

This is similar to how I look at it and well said. It shouldn't be about big $ posts or how much your wallet is worth. It's mire about the people here and having fun. The wallet will do it's thing over time but in the short run making some new friends and learning some new things here and there is really all that should matter. I've said it before, " the wallet for me is just a bonus............. enjoyed Luke as always.

Thank you very much for your (meaningful) reply. I will definitely check out your posts. And I'll be taking notes! haha
Have a great day!!

Sad it is true :(

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Nice post which makes it pretty clear. However, I hope not ever comes over. The word will get out slowly but surely. Steemit will be steeming!! Followed and upvoted

There is no point in gathering like in fb, very much different from steemit ;)

Upvoted and resteemed :-)

myspace part 2...

Great post! Goes to show what we Steemers already know- #Steemit is the place to be!

Ain't that the truth! I displayed this example for my facebook friends recently when I asked both the steemit community and FB friends to vote on which book cover I should use. FB post $0, Steemit post $25 - think I got my point across to them. :-)

Nice!

This is why we Steem! Great post and great "ad" for the platform. Our time, attention and writing is valuable and Steemit proves it.

Thanks Seth. I know people get frustrated with the constant Steemit "circle jerking" but the reality is most people don't have a clue what Steemit is and it will take a lot of posts about steemit for people to even start to look into it. At some point in the future we'll have some awesome content in every category, but for now we have to keep helping people figure out what's going on here so they can join in the fun.

It's true. And I remember when I first started here I was able to get so much helpful information about what Steemit is and how to use if just from other users' blog entries. As a Steemit "veteran" of sorts, the "circle jerk" sometimes becomes annoying and seems unnecessary, but it really helps us gain new users and teach new users/

good post

Once you realize your content has value...how could anyone go back to the old social media paradigm.

Good job!!!

Facebook and Reddit real power are the users i advice all Reddit and Facebook users to shift Steemit as here you will also get some rewards through likes,upvotes and commenting.

FB is history.

Facebook is slowly dying. With their censorship, terrible customer service and just a bad rap for monitoring you, it's old news at this point.

True, but it has a massive network effect. People are there because their friends and family are there. It will take time for things to shift. I imagine Facebook will end up adopting some kind of rewards system before too long but that will probably anger their share holders creating even more bad press... it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I agree, I've left other social media platforms to focus my attention here. Steemit seems to be the way forward. Thank you for the informative post.

You're right in saying that we are all shareholders, and as such all our efforts will be directed at making our investment more valuable. That's how Steemit will rise to be a powerful community over time.

Your post really showed how unfair FB is when you look at the value of what we give it versus what, if anything, we get out of it. I feel Steemit really rewards our attention and ensures that those who are vested reap rewards in proportion to their commitment. Time on Steemit is never wasted. Can't say that for the other social networks.

What more could you ask for?

Image of like

It's free and always will be...

I think the craziest thing is people will support or should I say fight for these platforms to no end. Why that is I have no idea. I can recall during orientation for my university's engineering program they wanted us to make Facebook accounts before the day was over.

I can understand a trend but sometimes trends can become a platform of degradation because there is no true community based incentive. Yes, you can chat with people but I had to stop using my Facebook because Zuckerberg kept suggesting ex girlfriends or people I thought I'd never see again...lol.

When I saw steemit first time and I was talking about steemit to my friends. I told them, its crypto Facebook. But there are some diferences: Facebook allows you share some content with selected people (friends) and hide that content to others. In some situation it can be usefull. On Steemit is all content public.

And it's more fun to like things here on Steemit than on Facebook! Higher quality of content and interaction!! :)

If this doesn't convince people to migrate to Steemit, then I don't know what will!

Time and repetition?

I don't know either. I've been talking about it for almost a year now. Some people who've listened to me that whole time are just now creating accounts.

Unbelievable. I used to think newspapers and 8-tracks were the dinosaur media, but now I'm seeing that facebook is a lumbering, cold-blooded behemoth with a walnut for a brain.

It's going to be a slow process but word will spread through the ( Other Site )
and people will flood here eventually :-)

Keep up the inspiring post ( Cheers )

I'm following ...

Thanks for the follow! Always appreciated.

260 votes here gives you a reward of 188 steem dollars!

Depends on the weight of the voters. ;)

well I am not that fat...no over weight

we should quit with facebook!!

Love the post! My brother @intothewild suggested I follow you. After reading a few of your post I can see why he did. Great content and love your story. I don't have much to add to this specific post besides that I agree. I do have a personal question though. My family and I are driving down to Nashville from Minneapolis for the 4th of July. Jan 30th-July 4th. Any recommendations? Places we have to eat or things we have to see? Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the follow!

What ages in your family? There's a lot to see and a lot of great food, but it depends on what you're into. We're not huge fans of country music, but there's plenty of other neat things to see. The zoo is fun, the Parthenon is great, bicentennial park is great (especially if the kids like pokemon go)... plenty of good restaurants as well.

3 years old and 8 months. We are staying about 10 minutes drive south of Broadway near the zoo. Splash pads or dining recommendations would be great!

We´re gonna make #Steemit great, with the help of Facebook.

Check out my post on this https://steemit.com/facebook/@steve-speaks/11-days-on-facebook-results-on-steemit-official-page

How is this "official"? Do you work for Steemit, Inc?

Great post @lukestokes That's a big reason why I came over to Steemit to check it out!

Upvoted, resteemed, followed

Thank you!

To be fair, if you have 29k real followers it's not very difficult to monetize.

But yes, 29k followers on Steemit would be life changing.

Sure, but you can monetize those 29k followers on Steemit the same way, right? You could do a product promotion for pay, like many do on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, etc. That, to me, is a round-about way to recapture some of the attention economy value you create. If you had 29k followers here, you'd get both the crypto value and the promotional value. Win / win for sure. And, best of all, if people don't like what you are putting out there, they don't vote, unlike Facebook where algorithms determine who sees what.

Yeah you're right. Can't disagree at all. Steemit is the best!