Killing Cancer - And Yourself

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”Please, Doctor! I don’t know what the problem is, he just started cramping. Please save my little darling!”

The veterinarian looked down on the small dog who was shaken by violent convulsions.

”It looks like this poor animal has been poisoned. We can try to do something against it, but I’m not sure if we’ll be successful without knowing what he ate. Did you see him ingesting anything he shouldn’t have?”

With tears in her eyes, the woman shook her head.

”I’m tracking everything! He’s only getting the best food available. And his supplements.”

The vet raised an eyebrow.

”Supplements?”, he asked. ”What kind of supplements?”

”Vitamin B17! It’s impossible to find dog food that contains it for some reason. I buy it from this great internet shop. It's a bit more expensive but they say it’s perfectly safe for you and your animals and it kills cancer!”

”Vitamin B17? You mean amygdalin? Are you mad?! You’ve been basically feeding your dog cyanide!”

”What?” The woman seemed even more in shock than before. ”No, they say it is healthy. You just need to build your resistance slowly.”

”You can’t build resistance to cyanide. And when you ingest amygdalin, your digestion system turns it into hydrocyanic acid. Yes, it’s used in cancer treatment, but the tendency goes towards intravenous injection, not eating supplements!”

”You’re a vet, what do you know about cancer?” The woman hissed.

”As it seems, a great deal more than you do. Amygdalin has been in use as a cancer treatment since the 1800’s, but there is still no research that shows rapid tumor regression. And in no case it has been used to prevent cancer, that is incredibly dangerous and stupid!”

”Stop lecturing me and save my baby instead!”

”It’s far too late to save your precious dog baby. You’ve successfully poisoned him.”


”Isn’t there a different way?”

”Different from what?” Dr. Miller asked. ”You don’t want chemotherapy, Mr. Brown?”

Mr. Brown shook his head.

”Chemotherapy makes me sick and it can kill me. I want different, natural ways to fight off this cancer.”

”I’m sorry Mr. Brown, but most natural remedies aren’t enough to get rid of cancer. If you want, we can add mistletoe extract to your treatment. There have been studies that it improves the quality of life significantly. But as a second-line treatment, not as only treatment.”

”What about vitamin C injections? I’ve heard that they help especially with my type of bowel cancer.”

”Sometimes, yes. But the research for this is still ongoing. I wouldn’t suggest it in your case because the increased vitamin C increases the risk for thrombosis and you’re already at risk, as you’re an older patient. I’m sorry, I’d love to offer you something more pleasant than chemotherapy. Even if it was something absurd like turkey tail mushrooms.”

Mr. Brown slightly lifted his head.
”Turkey tail mushrooms? What are those?”

”There’s a paper where a doctor describes a patient who took turkey tail mushroom supplements alongside her chemotherapy. He didn’t know she was doing this and he states that he’s not sure about the actual effects of this. But people like to take it as proof that those mushrooms can cure cancer. Sadly, most plants with cancer-fighting properties aren’t enough by themselves. But as I said, I’m willing to go through the available options with you if you want to add something.”

”Thank you, Doctor.” Mr. Brown sighed. *”I just wish we could prevent cancer in the first place.


”Dude, how cool is that? Your health insurance pays so you can smoke weed. This is so epic. Can you give me some?”

”Jerry, are you fucking serious? I’m taking this to manage the nausea and pain that come with my chemo, and you want me to give you some so you can get high?”

”Don’t be like this. See it as a way to make sure I don’t get cancer.”

”That is not how it works. I’m not smoking marijuana to get rid of my cancer. That’s what the chemo and radiation therapy is for.”

”Bullshit. We all know that cannabis can cure cancer. Now give me some of your weed, Carl!”

Jerry reached for Carl’s joint, but Carl slapped away his hand.

”Most of those claims are based on one study with 9 patients. That is not even statistically significant. You can’t just take results from a small study that shows something might work and then claim that it’s proven to work in every case.”

”You’re believing the government’s lies! They just don’t want us to use marijuana, they want us sick and spending thousands of dollars.”

Carl raised up his hand, which was still holding the joint. He gave Jerry a long stare.

”Ah, yes, I forgot, the USA are the only country with any medical research and they completely prohibit any kind of marijuana in medicine. I’m sure there isn’t one single other country that might be interested in researching the effects of cannabis on cancer. I mean, we’re obviously the center of the world.”

”No need to be sarcastic, dude. No need to be sarcastic…”


Disclaimer: This post is a reaction to the comments on my previous The Cure for Cancer story. I’m not mentioning every proposed cure, as that would make a long, really boring article and also take too much time. Cancer research is not perfect, but it is not as bad as people seem to believe. And most “natural medicines” that have a proven effect on cancer cells are usually unable to eradicate said cancer completely.


Sources:

Advanced research on anti-tumor effects of amygdalin

Amygdalin, quackery or cure?

Vitamin C selectively kills KRAS and BRAF mutant colorectal cancer cells by targeting GAPDH

Metabolomic alterations in human cancer cells by vitamin C-induced oxidative stress

High-Dose Vitamin C Injection to Cancer Patients May Promote Thrombosis Through Procoagulant Activation of Erythrocytes

Quality of life of patients with advanced pancreatic cancer during treatment with mistletoe

The case for mistletoe in the treatment of laryngeal cancer

Successful Treatment of HER2-neu–positive Breast Cancer With Paclitaxel and Trastuzumab Supplemented With Turkey Tail Mushrooms and Community Support

Marijuana use and risk of lung cancer: a 40-year cohort study

Marijuana and lung diseases

Cannabis Extract Treatment for Terminal Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia with a Philadelphia Chromosome Mutation

Medical marijuana use in head and neck squamous cell carcinoma patients treated with radiotherapy

A user’s guide to cannabinoid therapies in oncology


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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Talking about cancer is really scary.
You mention the leaves of cannabis as a cure for cancer, I am very familiar with cannabis. In our area many communities are cultivating marijuana, but illegally, because the government prohibits cultivating any more ingredients.
Marijuana is very influential for health if wrong in use and at very high risk, one of the very harmful effects for people who smoke cannabis heart attack in a very fast time.
However, that puzzled me. Marijuana is also beneficial to health, even though the scientists / doctors Keep it a secret health benefits for cannabis.
One of the benefits of marijuana that I know is cannabis can slow the disease (Alzheimer's), this disease attacks on the brain.

Thank you for sharing, interesting and useful postings for our knowledge of dangerous diseases.

The only possible cure for cancer is vitamin M --> vitamin Money!!

With enough money, you can enrol yourself in preclinical trial drugs by funding the research
With enough money, you can purify the hardest synthesized chemicals in significant amounts
With enough money, you can get the best medical care, best surgery
With enough money, you might be able to clone yourself.......

I am just messing around.....no drugs are 100% guarantee to cure.....you only get a choice of taking or not taking it at the risk of your own life~

For a moment, I was disappointed in you :P
Yes, people like to think that it's all a question of money. But even the biggest amount of money won't always be enough.

I'd say Steve Jobs is a shining example.

You can definitely get grant more easilyfor doing cancer research!

The cancer is a human enemy and cancer has killed many human lives.
Cancer attacks humans from the intestine, breast, red blood cells and brain.
Cancer should be prevented, even though the doctors to this day have not found a real cancer drug.
There is also to prevent cancer, in addition to the marijuana you mentioned above, our society utilize the noni fruit for cancer treatment.
Noni fruit is very familiar with our society, because there is anti-mengkudu anti-cancer substances.
Your post is very useful and interesting.
thanks for sharing

I had g in to the vitamin C article previously. If you look closely, it is totally nonsense to me. In their high dose experiment, they are using a vitamin c at a dose of 4g/kg two times everyday.
So if someone is like 50 kg then he have to take 40 gram vitamin c..... Seriously, i have no idea how they got published on Science

I read several other articles about it that had some kind of vague results, so I included it. But yeah, it doesn't seem that realistic. Then again, that's exactly the issue with most of those "cures". The dosage is way too high for realistic results in a big part of the population.

I got some probably inappropriate laughs out of this. Resteeming....edit to add..I work in the medical field had a patient think rubbing wd40 on her leg would cure her arthritis

Good post, satire is always good to make light of how stupid people can be sometimes. On the other hand big Pharma companies putting their checkbooks in front of patients lives is also a big issue. Hope is a powerful thing and when people are faced with life or death situations, anything that provides a little hope,- however stupid it sound,- many people will jump at that chance. Good work Suesa

Thanks!
Yes, many things are unnecessarily overpriced. The funny and sad thing is that most "natural" cures are also really expensive. But as they're not supplied by big pharma, it's ok.

Unless you find them in the wild!

Feel free to eat apricot kernels found in the wild. I mean, they're cheaper than on the website I found. 😂

God forbid people took control of/grew their own food, medicine and fasted as hippocrates suggested! Resteemed and shared in @chelsea88 's group Steemit Dreamit. Cheers @ecoknowme

Hey, growing your own food is great. I just don't think it's possible to cure every disease without outside help.

I don't recall making such claims either. I think the whole point of me mentioning them was to encourage others to look into traditional and plant based medicines, in addition to conventional treatments. I'm sorry if I came across otherwise.

As always, internet and especially the comment section, isn't the greatest place to discuss things. Too many misunderstandings..
:)

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

You ever crack one of those badboys open? Looks exactly like an almond :). The taste is bitter though :P. I'm not sure, does cyanide bioaccumulate or does its activity enhance oxidative metabolism by temporarily stunting it? Supposedly one would need to eat upwards of 40-60 apricot kernals to get a dangerous dosage of cyanide. I'll admit it was many years ago when I first looked into laetrile, the arguments for it were rather well constructed (natural amygdalin vs extra toxic synthetic laetrile) is what they used to posit it as. Desperate people could certainly be hook in by such a thing as this: http://www.naturallifeenergy.com/conspiracy-behind-vitamin-b17-amygdalin-laetrile-cyanide-and-cancer-treatment/

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

If I remember right the clearance rate is about 0.1mg per kg bodyweight per hour. So theoretically, a person doesn't have to die of this. But you know how people are...
Have you read through the instructions on the homepage of the shop I linked? Accidental death waiting to happen.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Havn't read the instructions. Though check out some of the products which seem decently formulated. I'd be willing to eat a few bitter appricot seeds a day though yeah, what's to stop someone from trying to make apricot nut butter in their fancy blender or find a way to juice them. I'd hope there is a huge disclaimer somewhere involved. Warning: overconsumption may result in death of both you and your cancer, you first though, enjoy

I have had a few family members diagnosed with cancer over the years, so I've done a bit of reading and research into not only cancer, but medicine, natureopathy and alternative medicine. I am really fascinated by a guy named Wim Hof (spelling?) he is known as the iceman and has done some cool stuff with his body, all through mental practice. If you haven't already, you should check him out

😂😂😂 This reminds me of the time I wanted to learn what the big deal was with this Himalayan pink salt everyone was going on about. I googled it to read vague accounts of "loaded with nutrients" (which surely doesn't matter even if it's true, you're not going to eat a pound of the stuff a day to get an appreciable amount, are you?) Then I found out one of those "nutrients" was polonium. Om nom nom. Polonium. It's what the doctor ordered. I believe there's a little radium and uranium in there too.

I mean, radiation therapy does work, so this salt has to be thr natural alternative, right? right?! :D

This is a very funny way of putting it. I was grinning the whole time. 😁😁😁 It's just like when people ask @steemitph and I if the fertilizer we put in our vegetables are 100% "organic". We tell them "the fertilizers we use are the same ones the farmers put on the ricefields so if you eat rice, that shouldn't bother you right?" Most, if not all Filipinos eat rice in all our meals.

I'm sure there's a lot of reason to want organic food and we use organic fertilizers as much as we can but I think it's funny that those same people who want organic vegetables are not bothered eating non-organic rice in all 3 of their meals (if not more).

People tend to make paradoxical decisions

Oh how much I love your post. I could imagine these are all conversations.

Commoners (or nurses at best) who read through some studies, or articles based on studies (or articles based on articles, which are based on studies) and think they have found out some kind of miracle drug.. it's somewhat silly. But then they refuse to believe any real experts - that's the point in which it gets crazy. In worst case, they find a doctor who agrees with them (and sells his own book about the benefits/dangers of *** to get rich) and we have hell broken on loose.

It's great how some really believe US government is controlling all the studies all over the world.

This is a very informative post and I know it can help a lot of people because cancer is one of the most major diseases. I hope they will help other poeple treat cancer and not hide it from the public.

While I'll admit 95% of the articles based on studies are only marginally effective, their have been numerous studies on compounds in appreciable quantities in herbs and foods shown to reverse cancers and heart disease. The NIH focuses on marginally effective drug development on behalf of the pharmacuetical industry... Ever heard of bh4? I suspect you are but one of those commoners who doesn't have enough information on the subject to weigh in accurately on the matters at hand. :P

Most studies have shown the effect of different foods in preventing cancer, but with some foods they are helping only in certain types of cancer and in high amounts. Quite few foods have any effect on an excisting cancer and they are not curing the cancer alone.

Helping to cure cancer (along with some real treatments) is one thing, but showing off something as a savior against cancer is completely wrong.

I'm a commoner but I have more common sense and knowledge in scientific processes to understand how science works :D Some take a single study as a 100% sure proof, even though there'd be a load of studies that have had completely different results. I'm trying to keep my eyes open for facts instead of holding onto my beliefs.

You def made some good points but I still have to say that Carl didn't have to be like that, he could have let Jerry try it out, you see we learn by examples lol. Just kidding great post, good luck convincing some of us that our home remedies don't work.

True, Carl is a bit of an ass

I have been reading some of your posts and I understand where you are coming from. I am all for science and all but there are things we have to chill out a bit since there are massive holes in cancer research.

Sure, there are tin-foilers with all kinds of claims but the cancer front hasn't been doing much — especially when it comes to replication of massive studies. The research is poor and lacking due to the fact that the subject is really complicated.

Even though, chemotherapy is the best shot one can have, with survival rates having climbed and all there is almost no scientific advancement.

And most “natural medicines” that have a proven effect on cancer cells are usually unable to eradicate said cancer completely.

I think combining both is what is showing to have the most promise in research now from what I've read.

I.e fasting can radically improve chemotherapy success

https://news.usc.edu/29428/fasting-weakens-cancer-in-mice/

For example, multiple cycles of fasting combined with chemotherapy cured 20 percent of mice with a highly aggressive type of children’s neuroendocrine cancer that had spread throughout the organism and 40 percent of mice with a more limited spread of the same cancer. No mice survived in either case if treated only with chemotherapy.

I find that really fascinating personally, 0% compared to say 20% or 40%....also slows progression of tumors like chemo does.

That marijuana lung cancer article was pretty eye opening, I've heard claims that there was no statistically significant increase in cancer risk which it clearly refutes.

Smoking in general isn't something you should do, regardless of what you actually smoke.

And I agree that natural remedies can be used alongside traditional treatment, as long as the doctor knows about it. Wouldn't want any bad side effects.

So I'll give my sources here and why I mentioned the previous treatments:
This is Paul Stamets,a leading American Mycologist who has being hired by the Department of Defense recently to study the potential of medicinal mushrooms such as Agarikon for various infectious diseases. In this video he discusses the case of his own mother's breast cancer which could not be treated with radiation or surgery. In ADDITION to a modified type of chemotherapy she partook in a study on turkey tail. here is the story narrated by her son who provided the fungi for the study:

Do you have any studies or only videos? Just out of interest.

Turkey tail... classified as a tumorcidal and immune booster. Tcell count goes up and aids in the recovery of the side effects of radiation and chemotherapy:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3369477/

Thank you

most of the good stuff is in Books I own, Mycomedicinals cites numerous Studies from Asia, Radical Mycology has much more recent stuff and Mycelium Running goes through various species with studies for each. I can go find those tomorrow and write out and relevant studies cited and then probably find them online. The thing I find awkward is that I am really not any authority, I just wish that the authorities I have heard of, should be listened to. THese videos provide the key words. All you have to do is google in strictly peer reviewed medical journals and chances are, your information will be a bit better. Nothing is the cure for cancer. Studies can simply show how certain variables can be affected by factors that can be isolated. The isolated mentality of Western medicine seems to miss the need to integrate all things into a whole. Everything can help or hinder, but nothing is necessarily a silver bullet... even colloidal silver ;)

This is an excerpt from Food Matters discussing Orthomolecular Vitamin C injections

Don't know much about B17, but this is one side of the 'history'

A Molecular Biologist, not the Pheonix tears guy:

Obviously, these are just some youtube videos, but they provide a starting point to investigate further. I do /did not want to give the impression that I somehow condone REPLACING conventional therapies with ONLY natural 'Alternatives' but I do think that there is much to be learned about immunology, pathology, nutrition and traditional forms of healing that are still valid and increasingly validated today, (India, China and Japan come to mind). My own personal experience has taught me a lot. I recently cured myself of a skin infection without antibiotics. This was a personal choice and really don't recommend anyone to listen to anyone other than health care practitioners. But that said, there is an awful lot of important information that is not emphasized in a conventional medical education. Nutrition is often tangentially addressed or a minimal amount of time is given to that topic exclusively. ( I had 14 medical students at my house recently and they confirmed this to me) Many diseases are addressed through diet and nutrition and our modern food system is producing food of lower nutritional density than decades earlier and this has been recorded along side the changes in social health trends. We have lots of calories and not much in the ways of minerals and trace elements.
When we lack Vitamin C we call it scurvy. lack of protein: kwashiorkor. Is it silly to think the 'cure' for these diseases might be vitamin C and all the essential amino acids the bodies needs to synthesize proteins?
Most synthesized drugs are just isolated compounds from nature: curcuminoids, salicin, astaxanthin.... or turmeric , willow bark and algae? If you google the hype you get the hype, if you isolate the point of value, you can then search the terms in peer reviewed medial journals from your own country and others and even translate them. How the same studies can be done in one country and be disputed by another, with the only difference being the source of funding... gives reason to pause and examine how human limitations can impact otherwise sound science. I was just thinking how the link between diabetes and soft drinks can get disputed in the USA but unanimously confirmed in Europe. What's the difference? Is there any reason to apply the scientific method back to science itself as a concerned citizen? lemme know your thoughts. I much enjoyed this one! lots of sources too!

was actually a very cool video, all the mushroom speak had my eyebrow raised a little bit but I'm a believer now lol - at least in certain anti-microbial/viral aspects of it.

All of this may be considered adjunct but I believe in time we will find it necessary for the synergistic effects.

This one Really Opened my eyes to what we could be studying:

I highly recommend trying Reishi mushroom consistently for 3 months minimum so you can FEEL the effects. You can read so much but you only understand why it was worshipped and had names like the Mushroom of Immortality or Good Fortune until you see how it gently changes you from the inside out. We do not have much familiarity with such substances in Western medical or culinary systems. Most of us are still deciding what we can make for dinner that requires the least effort. Forget if it is good for me, as long as it tastes good! A few bitter herbs go a long way ;)

I'll give it a look, I'm quite intrigued.

Cheers! Steem/Study On!

Reishi Mushroom is one of my favorite tonics. Im also very fortunate to have 55-75year old Ginseng Tinctures of very high quality. Its very enjoyable to take.

Are you familiar with the mineral in reishi and ginseng touted for some of their benefits?

There are many post about cannabis oil,
I have read stories patient walking from death bed using it

Stories don't always equal truth and anecdotal evidence is not statistically relevant

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Shall you and I delve into nf-kb and cancer, mu opiod and nf-kb activation, and cb1 receptor activation attenuation of mu opiod receptors? I'd rather hope to get paid to do scholarly review work for steemit and its potential patrons since they have the intellectual property rights of anything posted here, I'd hope to be curated or commisioned for such a thing

Nobody is stopping you, publish away! I'm sure there will be people on here who'll upvote and thus pay you

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I have much less faith, though I'm new. Perhaps I am wrong. Tis only my second day. I enjoy your enthusiasm though I can tell you are passionate about these things. Maybe we'll collaborate one day

Alright let's you and I get to it :P https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2773649/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3446243/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26043235
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318341/

I have given you a peice of the rabit hole, can you trace this back to natural endocannabinoid processes and receptor up and downregulation processesses? Where is the disconnect in essential fatty acid metabolism?

I'll look into it when I have more time and energy, already read too many papers for one day while writing this post. At one point, everything just turns into a constant, high-pitched beeping.

so cannabis oil is not the cure or it may vary on patients

It helps mitigate some of the natural processes gone awry though it won't prevent cancer cells from developing in the first place

Theres a documentary on Netflix called "What the Health". It talks about how to cure all diseases, cancer, diabetes, obesity. It woke me up to everything that's going on right now. I actually wrote a Blog on this documentary you could read it on my blog.

Very brilliant post, many doctors who hide medicine for health, then they will sell it with a fantastic price high, very unfortunate if we and our pets do not get a good solution, I will wait for your next posting. @suesa

Very informative post..

You very cleverly miss the main point here. Chemo, radiation and surgery have very poor success rates. Can we agree on that? The amount of money spent on cancer is astronomical, can we agree on that? There are promising alternatives that are not extensively researched because it is not in big pharma's interest. There have been incredibly positive results from various forms of alternative cancer therapies that are generally cheaper and produce less damage. Let's insist on doing significantly more research on these promising alternatives and give people some options and a lot more hope. 'Science' is only worth a dam when it is pure and uninfluenced by corrupting influences. Can we agree that science produced by entrenched interests is suspect at best? Provably corrupt and rotten at worst. The entire body of scientific work around cancer needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, from funding to establishing independent research. Until that happens, people are understandably going to look for better alternatives. Let's help them instead of mocking them.

Do you really think there isn't constant ongoing research to make cancer therapies more effective and less invasive?

The problem is that people nowadays rather eat apricot seeds than trust their doctor.

While researching this, I encountered countless studies about alternatives to chemotherapy and radiation. It's likely that I'll do cancer research myself at one point in the future, because it's very likely I'll get cancer myself.

It's very likely for all of us.

My mom went though chemo for Hodgkin Lymphoma and she suffered considerably. But she survived and is well now. If she had relied on the "cures" many people proposed under my last post, she'd be long dead.

The problem is that all this fear and mistrust towards the pharma industry leads to people who die of curable or at least treatable diseases.

I 100 percent agree with you, though I do mistrust the pharma industry and the poor education standards of doctors. You'd be lucky if you doctor knew anything about how food effects one's health let alone emerging compounds found in appreciable quantities in food. Go ask an esteemed doctor about polyamines and they'll look at you crosseyed. If someone has high cholesterol yet low endogenous synthesis of neurohormones, a doctor will prescribe you a drug that lowers blood cholesterol yet futher limits your production of neurohormones. Oh your hormone levels are messed up now? Let's just slap you with some testosterone cream that further messes up your bodies natural hormone balance. You'd be lucky if they even gave you crysin to block aromatase. Or coq10 with statins. If you have issues with your bone health, a doctor will prescribe you a drug that increases your risk of bone fractures. It's not like big pharma is telling doctors to recommend their patients vitamin k2 instead of phosamax...

The list is endless, whens the last time you heard of histamine for arthritis or niacin for anxiety? Of niacin and folate and tyrosine for depression? Doctors don't treat patients for chronic diseases, they pump you full of pharmacueticals that eventually lead to more problems. Don't get me wrong, without a proper diet your better off taking the pharmaceuticals than doing nothing at all. But that's a really low bar

I already told you what I really think. The amount of money and research behind cheaper therapies is tiny compared to the big three and it is obvious why that is. Ask yourself why people find it difficult to trust their doctors. Is it because of they are sane? Trust has been eroded in all the central pillars of western civilisation, why? Because of blatant, obvious, massive corruption. I don't like it any more than you do but to imply that people who have lost trust and are searching for alternatives are anything other than sensible is unhelpful and ignorant.

I'm so very very happy that your mum recovered from cancer. It is an absolute joy. Though I don't believe anyone could tell you what would have happened if she had taken another path. It's possible she got better in spite of her treatment, not because of it.

All I'm saying is that mistrust of an untrustworthy system is entirely rational. I hope, one day, a community like Steem's will be able to crowdfund and share cancer therapies that work and are very cheap to produce. Instead of ignoring the problem of corruption in the medical industry, let's acknowledge it, acknowledge the rational reaction of people and pursue something better. It is every person's individual choice to learn what they can and make choices for themselves.....especially where interventions are concerned.

Is it possible to acknowledge the corruption and acknowledge that natural remedies are not working? Because things are rarely black and white.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I hope for such a thing too, In the mean time I pray that monsanto, pharmacuetical companies, and other chemical manufacturers refrain from further altering our food supply and our bodies enzymology. Give me seeds back in my watermelons while we're at it

Chemo, raditation and surgery actually have quite good success rates, at least depending on the age. Cancer is more common with elderly people and they have worse survival rates in general.

Big pharma has no control over the entire scientific community. There is a plenty of research and studies done outside of the touch or funding of pharma companies.

I haven't seen a real study of any alternative cancer therapy and single stories, usually unverifiable ones, are not a strong evidence for cancer treatment. Of course people are free to find a cure in any source they wish, but selling cyanide as a cancer treatment or to prevent cancer is plain evil.

Current studies in cancer treatment are not in the way of any other kind of studies in the subject. You can't ban studying to improve chemo, raditation and surgery treatments only because you dislike them.

There are plenty of studies around the world in the preventation of cancer, which I see far more important than only focusing on altering the treatments in radical ways. Looking for alternatives is fine, but when people are using disproved claims or wrongly understood studies to prove their alternative is right.. it won't work.

Trying to turn natural things into magic isnt' working. Currently it seems as "the natural options" like vegetables, vitamins, antioxidants and such are the best way to prevent cancer or to support cancer treatment on some level. You can't tell anyone they can cure cancer alone if you can't prove it with well done studies.

I agree with you.

Thank you for the reply and all good health in your life.

thats sounds good... thanks for this post... cancer is really the most terrible disease.... you will just feel dying if you have cancer... but nowadays there are lot of researches and studies to cure it.... but nevertheless its still so bad to have it

Would you denounce me as an individual if I knew the cure for cancer yet held onto it until I found a job whereby I could make money off of it?

Puts you pretty much in the same spot people claim "big pharma" is.

except they make billions and I am not :P. If they don't hire me soon I'm sure i'll start running my mouth to everyone. Go drink coconuts this and go eat cacao fruit that

But you want to make billions ;P

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I'd settle for 40k a year quite frankly...

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I am still astonished by the skill of the posh woman of linking websites as she speaks: "I buy it from this great internet shop." and the perfectly consistent, organised, reasoned and lucid speech of the high dude. People are amazing sometimes.

COX-2 inhibitors in cancer treatment and prevention, a recent development. Cannabidiolic Acid as a Selective Cyclooxygenase-2 Inhibitory
Component in Cannabis. Get your facts straight ;), Pot does help cure cancer.

You're always invited to link me peer-reviewed studies

are you implying these random studies I pulled up were no good?

I'm implying that you only gave me quotes, not studies

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

highlight them, click search google :P though if I must.... I'm new and unaware of the linking policy so I thought to avoid it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18556441
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11901304

Kudos for linking studies!

The effect of inhibition of Cox-2 in cancer treatment is still being researched, just because the paper says cannabis blocks Cox-2 doesn't mean it can cure cancer.

Sure, there are trials and research being done, but to say it's the cure just on this basis?

I agree that cannabis has a great medical potential but we're not quite there yet.

Yet.

The thing is, too many people can't differentiate between "It's promising" and "it works" thus rejecting the things that work in favor of those that are promising.

If we can cure cancer in 5 years by taking cannabis oil pills, I'm happy!

But until then, people should be aware that cannabis isn't the cure for everything because that's dangerous and sometimes deadly.

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Regards @sharoon

An small amount of this element will deliver you to death in a moment... she's lucky she did not try vitamin

This is an interesting post to read. Hopefully with this post can give us overcome cancer dani early for our dog.

I have worked in the cancer industry.

Never have I seen a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Doctor's back stabbing each other and stealing each other's research and grants all trying to be first to find a cure treatment.

And they always put down alternative medicine as being unscientific.
I guess counting how many people come in the door and how many of those get cured isn't scientific.

If you are working with the NCI, well then that's scientific.
Meaning you need to remove people from the roles who were too old, too young, too progressed in cancer, have too rare of a cancer, died too early in chemo, etc.

Got a scientific topic which you want to see as a story? Leave me a comment!
Ritalin Vs Rhodiola is either safe or effective?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/health/keith-conners-dead-psychologist-adhd-diagnosing.html