"Strassenmusikant" - A Typical Viennese Song For Steemit's Randowhale And Those Kind Of Votes We Might Need Or Not?

in fishing4votes •  7 years ago  (edited)

When I discovered those two awesome musicians on the streets of Vienna the other day, I couldn't  stop thinking of my new post for steemit, wanted to play that song " Strassenmusikant" those sweet guys performed and use it to start a discussion, if we should pay for whale votes in our community?  

I have to admit that I am paying for getting votes theses days. It feels kind of weird to me but officially wanted to say thank you to those who boost my articles a little bit. I am thankful! 

Otherwise .....what? How could we help minnows to be discovered?

@promote @randowhale @booster @whaleshares ........Yes or No ? 

It was so cool!

Karl Hodina - Straßenmusikant

I would prefer if people read and vote because they like my stories. 

I also think that many views and comments count so much more than payouts. Right? 

Should I stop doing this or just keep on spending my SBD? 

Good question!

Maybe you can help me and let me know what you think? 

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Good afternoon, @mammasitta ! Thank you for the good song. I like the sounds of an accordion. It is very nice.
You always raise for discussion a very important topic in Your posts. Sorry I'm a little late. But I really liked Your post. I read all the comments in the discussion below it.

  • I have to stop it or just continue to waste your SBD?
  • To pay or not to pay?
    Good question! Now increasingly I find discussions on this topic. With the advent of these amps-whales, I also began to use their services. I paid. I thought that maybe this way can help herself. Because my posts gained a few cents, or, in the best cases, it's 1-2 $. And with their help, the cost came to$ 10. Basically I came across judgmental comments on this issue. If the value of my content is low, my posts are not interesting and boring....what am I supposed to get more? My photos are Amateur shot. I'm not a professional photographer. For that I give voice? And what do I think about myself here? I don't even speak the language at a normal level. Come down from heaven to earth! I said to myself. I objectively evaluate yourself. Let's say that all it is! I have many questions in my head. I read and viewed many posts here on the platform. And how is it that people are posting even just a photo without a comment, get a lot more votes? Or the post that was copied from Wikipedia (or other information resource) , gets 30-40$ ? I can't decipher this strange secret. I love Your posts and try not to miss. But I see that their value is also too small. Or I do not understand anything?! I feel very uncomfortable. As if all these negative comments are to me personally. And so I turned off automatic vote for their posts. And yet, I'm not paying for the amplifiers of the whales.
    I have no right to judge others: to pay or not - let everyone decide for himself. We are all here now trying to figure out what is good and what is bad for our community. Right now, in my opinion, is formed unwritten Code of Honor for Steemit. I think time will show us what and who is good.
    My 100% vote = 0,14$ today. I spent almost all. It is a pity that I can not vote for many, as always. What now? I came to the conclusion that my posts are again 0, 20 $. Where to start - and back! And I said - well, that's all! Enough on this. Probably it is necessary to be able to admit defeat. Yesterday I had a little date - 6 months since writing the first post. My husband gave me a new laptop for the occasion.He asked about Steemit. Seeing my sad face, he said that even for those 5-10 people who come to my blog daily, I have no right to stop.
    What to buy a vote or not?

I WOULD PREFER THAT PEOPLE READ AND VOTE BECAUSE THEY LIKE MY STORIES AND PHOTOS.

I am so sorry that I overlooked your comment but due to a very annoying nerve infection on my right arm I am feeling "disarmed" of writing more but somehow it might be time to take a little off the Internet holiday 😜 You are not the only one who feels like that and at this point I am confused about the present dynamic. Usually I would say :Steem on but I rather say : take it easy and do what you feel is best for your followers and the survival of steemit with the concept to produce quality content.
I am so sorry that I miss so many good posts from you and many others I truly value.
Let's continue to build our own human dominated platform and forget the politics around us. I autovote again soon but I think I will stay away from paid votes. Those bots will not survive. Hopefully!

Cool music, great post - I ask myself similar things - I even produced a dance video lol. I do not know the answer - I know nothing however I usually read your post before I vote - and I love what you write in general and I love your smile!

Somehow it's fishy to pay for votes.
For me it was more fun to be excited who finds you. Now it's the same story ......
I really like to read comments.
Danke Uwe

I never liked the idea of buying votes. I abstain from any polarizing posts about the topic because I caused enough political turmoil for now.

I also saw many of my favorite authors using randomwhale, so I thought there is maybe a bigger reasoning behind it, but as far as I can see it just paying for votes, which is a very unhealthy system for Steemit in my opinion.

Do you have a reason for using the boosters, other than "I would go under if I do not do it - everybody does it"? This is not meant to bash you, I am genuinely curious.

I am testing if there is any difference. For now It looks that it helps. @thatgermandude I never do because everybody else does it #justsaying

I did not mean to implicate that you do not give any thought to your actions. This post of yours is already proving the opposite ;). I meant that the shift from earning votes to paying for votes might very tough on people who decide to not pay for it. So there might be some indirect pressure for you to use the randomwhale system as well.

I am not very informed about the topic, I just feel it undermines the thing that a vote is actually meant too represent, but that might also just be my bias towards "pay to win", maybe Steemit is more complex than browsergames ;).

I understand I am truly confused, basically I don't think it's "ehrenhaft" to sell your so called powerful votes.
Kind of mean to give us no other choice but pay or NO vote at all.
Such a difficult subject to decide on and I am wondering how to build and create a fair community.

The music clip is I suppose Austrian folk music? Nice :)

Viennese !!!!

Reading your posts is always a joy for sure! I already payed for a @randowhale vote when I feel my dedication and time spent in the post isn't "fairly rewarded", but I don't like it. Our experience here has​ more highs and downs than a rollercoaster​!

Sorry I overlooked your comment and welcome to the randow whale club hahha. Oh well, I am not surprised because it's not that easy to catch enough or some good votes these days. Keep on riding that rollercoaster my dear like all of us. We are on the same "wagon"

Hang on that wagon firmly!! Let's go for more one spin or two!! ;)

Well, it's not easy like you said, but I won't let me get dependent on buying whales votes, I won't! I don't want to be in a "Anonymous Whale Votes Buyer" meeting saying "Hello, I'm Liliana and I'm addicted to​ buying whale votes"!! Ahah, no way! ;)

hahahahhhhh You made me laugh out loud . I feel the same !

Very nice music! :D

#summertime !

This is the most typical Viennese sound at the wineyards with a glass of white wine soda in your hands called "G'schpritzter @firepower and @edje

Cool music, i like music, i like your post @mammasitta

Danke schoen :) 🌺

I wait for your next interesting post @mammasitta

It's the typical sound of Vienna

Hallo @mammasitta. Es gibt ja einige Whalemodelle, doch deren Verheißungen sind für mich keine Alternative zum ehrlichen Bloggen. Klar, ich freue mich darüber, wenn jemand so einen Bot dafür bezahlt, dass er bei mir votet aber ich empfinde es nicht als ehrenhaft, sich für seine Votes bezahlen zu lassen. Ein Geschäftsmodell darauf aufzubauen, erscheint mir bei diesen Whalemodellen einfach nur suspekt und deshalb meide ich jedes Angebot. Mein Sohn findet das dumm und kauft sich gerne selbst den Randowhale ein, aber in der Beziehung bleibe ich ganz stur altmodisch. STEEM gegen unique content lautet der Deal auf dem Steem. Niemand hat gesagt, dass all diese superschlauen Nassforschen mit ihren windigen Methoden über die Blockchain rutschen und STEEM heraus pressen sollen. Ich empfinde diese Leute als die Harmonie störende Trittbrettfahrer.

Du hast vollkommen Recht und die Situation sehr ehrlich formuliert, wie ich eigentlich auch empfinde. Ich fühle mich noch in einem Dilemma und weiss noch nicht wie ich mich auf longterm entscheiden werde.

I have the same dilemma @mammasitta. I've been on minnowsupport for like three weeks now; sure it's nice(r), just somehow doesn't feel right. There must be people out there who'd appreciate my humor. I mean I'd love to have more views, not just upvotes!

I've seen so many changes here since one year and go with the flow. For now the new thing is paying for votes. So maybe let's just do it until a new trend will rise. I'm not too familiar with the minnowssupport because The days I was a little fishy I had @curie. I value your humor and kindness 🌺 Keep in mind "friends" will always help their "friends" That's why you see the same authors trending all the time. So, paying is left for us or just building your own community and support each other as well.

Thank you :) I guess we'll just stick it out then.
I also realized recently that a lot of time it's not the content itself, but the author, who I feel deserves my upvote. Like you said, friends will help their friends, always.

Sometimes it's hard to read all posts and some really good ones slip through. I have to admit that I am not always super smart writing mine but since it's social media our interactions also should be fun and thought provoking. Long posts take hours to write but I do. it mostly for my airbnb guests who visit Vienna or other areas like Indonesia, so google always in my mind. I usually try to balance the more valuable ones with the shorter blablah ones.

I really think it's up to you to decide why you are here...
For me, not comming from the crypto world but from the social media side, at first the goal was to attract people to see my pictures. What's the value of photo's if nobody sees them and why photographing to keep the results somewhere on a harddrive?
Now I have to admit that the upvote part is also fun... it helped me discover the whole new world of cryptocurrencies, a world that I knew exist but I never checked out before. Fascinating...
So, I think there is nothing wrong in your way of working... as long as you stick to the first rule (in my eyes) : post quality content.

BTW: I want to take the opportunity to thank you very much for your continued support! It's really appreciated 👍

We all have different reasons why we are here @pixelfan and I do understand yours. I am enjoying the many up, down and all around rides since day one I am playing in the cryptoworld through steemit. I've seen so many changes that I am still dizzy. Now it's about those paid votes. Every Hardfork there is something else coming up. So, I tested those votes for a while but I don't like it that much because I wish for a human dominated community, not ruled by some bots who even vote for #shitposts and new bots will be developed to follow those bots and so on .....I am here because I enjoy human interaction getting to know incredibly interesting characters. I am here because I am fascinated by the concept of a paid but high quality people platform....it was just a dream.....utopia might exist but where ??

I’m not here for a long time so I’m not aware of the developments since the beginning of this platform. But I do have some experience with social media and “paid” blogging platforms…
It’s my experience that as soon money is involved you will have an increase of #shitposts and #shitusers and… on this platform, bots. All in the hope to gain some easy and quick money. But there is no such thing as easy and quick money, at least not for the majority of users… so they will go away after some time. Of course, they will be replaced by others… who will go away too… and so on, and so on…
But I also do believe that there is a “niche” where users that are interested in real content will stay. Of course those are also interested in the money-part, otherwise they would not be here.(let’s be honest, the interface of steemit right now is not that fabulous 😄)
So, in my opinion, if you carefully select who to follow… your high quality people platform can exist.

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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

If you get profits from that, why not :p
Or when you want to upvote someone but don't have enough steempower.

Little bit but I really need to rethink because my goal is that my followers interact, get views and honest votes and therefore payouts.

She know she got me dazin' 'cause she was so amazin'.

Good 1 :) Thanks for helping me out !

No prob.

And now my heart is breakin' but I just keep on sayin.

for steemit to grow these have to stop

I hear you but what should newcomers do to be noticed, I could probably get through without those paid votes but I need the use it. One year at the platform.
I feel guilty to pay ? a little bit....yes!

I am using the service of the upvote bots.
it is for my exsistance, getting notice and also getting more payout, even for sometimes i got only loss rather than profit. 😂

I totally understand you but not sure if its the right way to keep a healthy minded community.

that is what i am thinking for sometimes also, because when i didn't use any of those bot, I hardly made to $1😂

but i love more to see someone upvoted and commented on my post. just like the way you said on your post. 😃

How much more you actually make? I am testing this now because I really would like to know. There were times I felt the same and then came @curie. They helped me a lot in the past, sometimes.....

At school on the playground. But I really wanna see her on the weekends.

I somehow doubt that considering the demographic that you are created to entertain.

How comes you refused my contribution today 😭

Because sometimes, you don't make sense.

You got that right ....just like you 🙉🙈

Are you deliberately trying to confuse me?

Do you know anything about derivatives?

So what do you think can somebody get out of the friend zone?

On pillars of salt and pillars of sand.