RE: Flat Earth - Jesse Kozlowski Lake Pontchartrain Soundly Marriot photo - responding to a comment on my last video.

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Flat Earth - Jesse Kozlowski Lake Pontchartrain Soundly Marriot photo - responding to a comment on my last video.

in flatearth •  7 years ago  (edited)

Again, you simply seem to be nitpicking a few meters here and there and, instead of just admitting that it's due to refraction, are SOMEHOW coming to the bizarre conclusion that there is no curvature, when even YOU just admitted that 7.1 meter viewer height gave virtually exactly the correct amount of the building hidden.

That is an insignificant amount that can be explained by simple acceptable error or refraction. You are quibbling over 1%! But can't show ANYTHING that is 20-1000% over the math as would be expected on a flat earth.

You said that those are the 'best examples of curvature', no, we see the best examples of curvature everyday that we don't see hundreds of miles from a 100 foot cliff at the beach. All those millions of images of empty horizons, what is 100 miles away that we WOULD see if the earth was flat?

IN fact, @kerriknox did a piece on Soundly's planes landing (that was actually taken DURING that same livecast as the Marriott, so it HAD to be where they said it was) of planes landing below the horizon of lake ponchartrain.

The entire airport is missing! But if it weren't for the planes, we'd not see ANYTHING, which is what we see constantly. No one goes "Ohhhh, Ahhhh" over a picture of nothing on the horizon, but what SHOULD we be seeing on a flat earth is a LOT more than we do.... like an airport in this video.

here's the specs. Stop obsessing over a few meters here and there. It's silly when you can't see hundreds of miles from 100 feet, as we should. Your OWN COMPUTER model shows that reality is only a few meters difference from your computer model. Any reasonable person would have seen your video as evidence in favor of the globe. To see it as evidence in favor of the flat earth is pure confirmation bias.

https://steemit.com/science/@kerriknox/this-video-of-planes-landing-is-a-compelling-and-slightly-hypnotic-piece-of-evidence-for-the-curvature-of-the-earth

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Like I said, the reason I choose this photo for this example is because it has accurate numbers to work with. I never claimed this as evidence of a flat Earth, I was simply proving that refraction must be necessary for this image to be possible on a globe, even though at first glance it looks like obvious curvature.

I'm not disputing the numbers. And your video says that it's not consistent with the globe when you actually proved that it very much IS consistent with the globe. Even on your youtube video, everyone is commenting that you proved the flat earth, because they are AGREEING with you, when that is not what it shows at all! It is perfectly consistent with the globe with a small amount of refraction.

So you EITHER have to admit that refraction exists (it does) or that you somehow proved the earth is a globe, but 1-2% larger than scientists state! You simply CANNOT deny that is obvious curvature EVEN if you completely deny refraction, since it is completely inconsistent with a flat earth... as your video PROVES.

Since we have known about refraction for thousands of years, and we have been measuring it for several hundred, and all the photographers who take those long distance images say they got them in positive refractive conditions, and even the Chicago Skyline image was PREDICTED on television the night before with the weatherman actually showing the public what the conditions looked like that were likely to cause refractive conditions, I think the former is the most likely, don't you? Refraction exists. I don't know why you have this issue with refraction.

Here's the video of the Chicago Skyline newscast the night before the notorious skyline image was taken predicting refractive conditions.

http://www.abc57.com/news/skyline-skepticism-the-lake-michigan-mirage

Here is a comment from one of the photographers on the long distance photography website.

refraction_long_distance_photography.png

I don't deny that refraction exists but I question the mechanics of it as it pertains to a globe. I can't help if people interpret this as proof of a flat Earth, it was never suggested and I tried to be intellectually honest by stating that what we see is not possible on a flat Earth either, without refraction of course. Anyway, since you seem to understand refraction so well, maybe you could show me or make a simple diagram explaining the downward curve of light over a bulge of water?

Not sure what you are questioning about refraction. It's quite well studied and you could just... well... look up why that happens.

http://piecubed.co.uk/atmospheric-refraction/

you want you to post more beautiful, so that we can all see and you can vote a lot