Thanks Delian! I have tried shake diets, the issue is once the diet ends so does the benefits. I tend to gain it all back quickly. I have found supplementing a meal or replacing a snack a better option. Those high fiber and protein bars are hype, and terrible for you. As far as the ginger, there is an excellent ginger/banana smoothie recipe I have in a book. Interesting you brought up ginger, I'll give it a try and if good absolutely repost! Excellent recommendation on the kale, thank you.