This is the case if you live in Sweden and Germany and it seems to be spreading, nowadays it seems harder and harder for parents to choose what they think is best for their children without the courts breathing down their necks.
Imagine the horror of having your child taken simply because you had chosen to homeschool them instead of sending them to be programmed, bullied and made to feel inadequate or stupid at a state school. Why are we forced to send our children to be a part of a system that is obviously failing hundreds of thousands if not millions of children every year?.
Our Dance With The Devil.
We knew it was illegal to homeschool in Sweden which is why we had been planning to move for over 4yrs, the time had come for our eldest to start school and we were very nearly ready to move, we only had one week that overlapped School starting and us leaving, we were sure we could leave in a civil manner without having any problems because in the back of our mind we thought "they can't possibly stop us from leaving the country".
WRONG!!! After receiving a threatening phone call on the Friday, saying that if we do not send Marley to school on Monday then she would be put on the child protection services list we decided to do a bit of research.
This coupled with a tip off from one of our followers we found out that the Swedish government frequently kidnap children from homeschooling families as they attempt to flee the country.
This was not going to happen on my watch so in the early hours of Monday morning we packed up our tinyhouse and headed for the nearest unmanned boarder, fleeing like fugitives was not how we had planned our exit from Sweden but there was no way we could risk them getting their slimy hands on our precious Marley.
It was a 4hr drive to the border and Louise held Marley TIGHT the whole way. A Mothers love for her child is undeniable.
You Make Lemonade.........In Finland!!!!
I never in my life thought I would be so happy to see this sign, to most people this sign says Finland but to us it said FREEDOM!!! We knew once we had passed this sign, we would never have to worry about losing our child again.
Maybe one day someone will explain me how non existing beings like states, countries and government can have jurisdiction over life of living being? I just don't get it...because it is total bullshit! Mind control to convince us we must obey their commands.
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Yes @cmoljoe it's very sad that these governments which are owned by these giant multinational companies are able to control people with propaganda and fear, the people don't realize that these so called laws are just statutes which are only valid if we consent to them. Yes you are 100% right, it's all mind control and scare tactics to make people think we need the government to protect us when really they are the ones we need protection from.
But one day they will fall, I know this because our children are not stupid and are very wise to their tricks.
Thank for sharing your thoughts with us :)
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Of course one day it will fall. Everything that is a lie is falling every day more and more. Beginnings of change are always the hardest, it is hard to see all these brainwashed people, but we must stay in truth and bit by bit everything gonna change. Because it is bit by bit, you can't notice it day to day, but when you look at longer periods you can see the change. It's slow, but that is the way it is. We must leave our frustration behind and just stay in truth, that is the only way.
Good luck with everything, I will keep resteeming your posts. You never know who can see it and give you useful information.
Cheers, mate!
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[-]cmoljoe, the only reason they have this power is because we gave it to them, or in other words, we believe in manmade-imaginary-laws. There only exist one law and that's "Natural Law". The fake spells on papers, people in fancy clothes called "uniforms" and imaginary lines called "bordors", don't really apply to us and it's about time we as the human race put our differences a side, stand together and tear this system down.
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Everything is perception. If you think or imagine something exist, that will exist for you as it is real. In the bottom of this is our slavement to mind because only mind can imagine something is real that is not.
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I totally agree. My goal is to pass a better world for my kids and any other kid. Otherwise what right do I have to call myself a father then?
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Saw you intro post and that you are anarchist. Welcome to Steemit! Followed you. Think we have a lot in common. Here is one of my articles about anarchy...
https://steemit.com/anarchy/@cmoljoe/anarchy-and-voluntaryism-are-our-only-solutions
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Good article about Anarchy and simple to understand, thanks :-)
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You give them power when you contract with them, not when you believe in manmade-imaginary-unreal-abstract-intangible laws. They have the power simply because people believe that U.S. Citizen, or citizen period is a term to describe free, independent people, but in fact it is just a political status that is presumed from adhesion contracts, so if you get a Social Security, or a Birth Certificate, you are tied to the Political Status of Citizen, or servant for the federal government. You can be a Texas Citizen and that will mean that you are a servant for the Nation of Texas.
Natural law doesn't exist. Natural law is as existent as prophesying that unicorns exist.
There exist many laws, calling them imaginary doesn't make them not laws. There exist many systems of laws, calling them intangible doesn't make them NOT laws. There exist many jurisdictions and they are all there to fulfill a special function.
You cannot tear down what you didn't create and it isn't yours. Find out who owns the patent to grants, trusts, maritime law, and everything you think doesn't apply to us but don't understand why and how, and see if it's yours to tear down or if you have that kind of jurisdiction or authority, it would be akin to patenting an invention and then saying "we must take the patent down! it doesn't apply to us" but you have no such authority, just like saying "this person wrote this awful book, this person invented this awful game, this person created this system of law" (person in the common use of the word as an unincorporated, free, sovereign individual, not to a Corporate Entity)
And the essence of it is starring one in the face, what need do you have to tear down what is wholly imaginary and not even your own creation? Should you undertake such futility? or simply not deal with the imaginary or treat it as anything other than imaginary, and in other words, how would you tear down a fake spell? Or a true spell? You cannot, and there is no reason to. The best method is simply to be polite, and ask very pointed questions pertaining to clarification on jurisdiction and the roles of everyone there, or simply don't chose to go into or contract with the court or the law enforcement, state your birthright, tell them that you are not a U.S. Citizen, you are a Free Individual, a Sovereign of the land of your birth and you don't accept their offer to contract.
If you clear the jurisdiction and identity confusion that is set forth with U.S. Citizen and the numerous adhesion contracts that they might use and claim "here is proof, you are a U.S. Citizen" then if they do challenge your claim that you are a American State National you simply state "I do not consent to any and all contract that are not in kind, fully disclosed and of mutual benefit to both individuals, and any such agreements are void as I would never willingly agree to subjugate myself to imaginary, fictional entities."
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"Natural law" = knowing the true mening about right and wrong, its that simple :-)
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If the law is knowing but not acting its inconsequential to everything is it not? You can know a million different things and if you don't share them with anybody then so what, or, to what consequence is that knowing for anyone else? Because, for example, the golden rule and the idea of free will are the simplest most all-encompassing laws there are. They're man made , recognized by everyone and finally they deal with people and benefits people, yet by comparison it doesn't matter if you "know the true meaning about right and wrong" because ignorance of these laws (golden/silver rules and the principle of so long as it harms no one do as you will) is not an excuse and cannot be defense but ignorance of natural law by what you say is only consequential to knowing the "true meaning about right and wrong" and because it doesn't express any act, only a "knowing" which is honed as to call it the "true meaning" about "right and wrong" and it doesn't express right over wrong even.
You said "True meaning" and not simply the "meaning of right and wrong" which in itself would imply the not false/true meaning, and just as "the true" is an adjective to meaning it can be an adjective to right and wrong like "the true meaning of the true right and wrong" or the combination of a synonym for true: "the not false meaning of the not false right and not false wrong" and what does it mean to know the meaning of good and bad because what is good and bad for the liar and the thief or for the assassin or the psychopath is not good and bad, right and wrong for the honest man, the psychopath is practicing natural law, as is the desperate, as are the ones that think they know but ignorant of their ignorance, that's if we pretend that it's about "acting based on following what one knows about what is good and bad, right and wrong, morally acceptable" and not only knowing, so in spite of it's specificity as to not false meaning, it won't resolve conflict between two morally conflicting people. what is the law going to do if it was about doing something?
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I'm glad you made it out safely. I've recently discovered here in the US, if you get your child a birth certificate that are owned by the US and this is why they can take them from you. I am in the process of surrendering my birth cert and claiming my daughter as my own. I'm not sure this website will help you out at all, but it talks about a lot of topics you may deem helpful or interesting.
http://annavonreitz.com/
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Yes @brandi, this is sad but true in England, USA, Canada and Austrailia. its the same when you register a vehicle, that's why they can come and tow your car whenever they please.
thanks for the link.
Bless.
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how can I f miss this. I'm glad you made it. But you might not have made it yet. don't underestimate these ffff.
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Don't worry my friend, We are keeping one step ahead at all times :) :)
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@markwhittam By the time someone is old enough to make their own logical decisions he or she should not be treated as a child anymore. Particularly in these past few decades the world and civilization is undergoing major changes and various developments in all fields. Thus, young people can adapt to these changes more easily than their parents. Youngsters’ outlook on the world is quite radically different than the older generations. It is true that the young person knows himself or herself better that the parents and this is why he or she should be permitted to decide for themselves. Although, discussing one’s career and future profession with their family is a great opportunity to understand or learn something new. However, I believe that young people can make the best decisions for themselves.
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Yes, this is very true, that is why I am always asking our children what they think and feel about school and governments, I know that they are slightly influenced by my beliefs but they still are very in tuned to what is going on in the world.
I find myself learning so much from my children :)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this matter.
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In the United States we have a ton of issues but I am glad that home schooling isn't one of them. The state I live in is considered a green state meaning it is easy to home school in my state if they have never been enrolled you don't even have to report to anyone period, the only requirement is you educate them for 180 days and the state leaves it up to the parents on what that is. Each state has their own laws some are more restrictive than others. But when I hear the horror stories like this, I feel blessed that home schooling hasn't been taken away from us yet.
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Yes, from what I've heard you guys have it pretty good over there, I don't care how safe and comfortable a country like Sweden is, if they treat people like they have many homeschooling parents including us, then I would rather live somewhere else.
I do hope that the laws don't change in your country like they are in a lot of countries now.
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I feel very thankful that I don't have your worries but I would be doing the same thing as you if I was in your position. Safe travels.
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This hurts my head and heart. There are so many cases, especially in my world of the autism community, where kids are taken --medically kidnapped. What is it going to take for people to rise up against this? I'm about ready to hide out in my local Amish community. I'm glad you made it to freedom, but it's a shame, what you had to leave behind. Are you able to get help in Finland, getting establish and finding a place to live?
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It is frightening to read this! I am so glad that you managed to escape, but I am sorry that you did not get to say goodbye to your loved ones in person. I hope that you will now be free and happy and be left alone to live your lives as you wish
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Much discipline is needed for the children of the state.
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Wow! That really sucks! You should have the right to homeschool if you like. Are they forcing vaccines too? There is on-line classes that are available im the U.S. Do they offer them there? I think your child would get 1000 more times attention at home than they would in a classroom. This is sad.....
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Yes in Germany they are forcing vaccine now, it's very sad because the people don't seem to want to do anything about it. thanks for the tip and the resteem @michaelstobiersk
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You're welcome. Best of luck to you and your family.
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Sadly germans can not do anything because if they just move a finger they are acused of nazis or neo-nazis or ultra-rights and so on... german people are afraid of this :(
It is good to see you managed to get out of the country save and with the family together. Cheers for that!
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It is very sad to hear this @juanmiguelsalas the German people are a strong race but it seems the government have won with their mind games an television.
Let's hope through steemit and crypto's this will change one day :)
Thank you for your response
Bless.
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I have spent the last 20 years deprogramming what they installed.
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Hi friend how are you? I am worried about you, I came to know that you're Now safe in Finland. But now, how is your life there your children, Louise, are all okay?.Please inform me,wish you and your beautiful family good luck and good health and happiness.
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We are very well thank you, I will do a post of our adventures in Finland. Thank you for looking out for us my dear friend @maya7
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Most welcome my dear friend, it is my pleasure to have you as my sweet friend. I am looking forward to see your another one about the adventure .Thanks have a great day friend.
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Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err.
- Mahatma Gandhi
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Thank you @wise-old-man
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government needs kids for only one purpose - new labor, paying taxes. That's all they care about
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Children are no longer seen as people but rather as a commodity.
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Sad but true @stuffy they don't even want scientists or astronauts anymore, just factory workers and delivery drivers.
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Education level is falling down every year - in Malaysia, they lower the score you should get to graduate from school once in 2-3 years so more kids can actually graduate =)
That's just mad. They're not trying to increase the level of knowledge that kids gain.
Governments in all countries are not really interested in people that can actually think or create.
Medieval age with inquisition - the best choice for them.
Dark ages coming
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100% agreed.
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and you know, how low the level of education in Malaysia is?
around 4 years ago, their PM said from the TV:
"... but Malaysia was never conquered!" =)))))
PM of former British COLONY
and people were happy and discussing this news for a month =)))
well, some latest history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_occupation_of_Malaya
and I'm not even speaking about portugese invasion =)))
but yeah, people believed because PM said this
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and let's not forget using children is a good way to keep parent's in line.
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oh yeah, it's the most precious thing to possess =)
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Children are our most precious resource
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Public Awareness is the 1st step
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OMG I didn't know that was happening in Sweden. I think it is a very stricted (and crazy) legal system, but why don't you want your kids to go to school? Don't get me wrong i'm not judging, i'm just having that doubt because, maybe for a cultural difference, I think that it is healthier for kids to go to a school in order to sharing with other kids and having normal difficulties that make them to be prepared for life. I hope you and your family are better now in Finland. Hugs from Venezuela =)
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I have home schooled my 3 children here in the USA.
They would get up at 6 AM and study with computer programs that are age and grade appropriate. When they finished up usually around 2 pm. They were given permission to do what ever they wanted when done studying for the day- watch tv, go to the playground, or play video games. Monday - Friday.
They take their ged at 16 1/2 - all have passed. and can go further - college and more. I have one son in the Army, and one in the National Guard. My youngest my daughter turns 18 in April and Is starting her own business in Art and Design.
If you cant tell I am very proud of them.
The point is they thrived in homeschool. Didn't suffer in any way and all are good upstanding young people.
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This is such sad and scary news in this day and age. I am so glad you got out of Sweden. Good luck on your quest for freedom. There are more of us then them, thus the need to teach us that we are free while squashing any true freedoms like schooling your kids.
Living your life in a way that you need less but have more time to enjoy.....well....the state never likes that. Be well and keep us posted!!
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For every man who lives without freedom, the rest of us must face the guilt.
By LILLIAN HELLMAN
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there will be war soon and everyone enslaved today will be free
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Resteemed.
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Me too.
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Thank you.
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keep your child
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This is a topic that is near and dear to my heart.
It's not much better in Oregon.
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It is really sad when governments take tactics they use in war to take an innocent child from the only family she/he knows. Do they not know that this will leave such a horrible memory on the poor child and also on the family? Do they realize that they are causing more harm than good? I don't understand why they don't try to work with the families and help them with resources to facilitate home schooling.
I can understand your wife's pain thinking that one of her children could be taken away. It just breaks my heart what you and your family have been through. I know you must have lost much but in the greater perspective you have gained freedom and happiness for your whole family. Your gains will be so much more valuable because you will all be together.
Wishing you much positive energy to sustain you all during this recovery time. Keep laughing and smiling together and make memories of joyful family times! With your perseverance, drive, determination, and know-how, you and your family will find that freedom and happiness you so rightly deserve. Please take care and be free. Good luck! ...... Cabbagepatch :D P.S. I will resteem to help spread your story.
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That is a bit sad to hear. The government shouldn't be allowed to interfere in familial matters no matter wherever we are in the world. The parents are learned well enough all around the world to know whats the best for their children.What has the world come to. This is total bullshit to me and i hope your child get well educated to tackle all such morons sitting in powerful positions and bring them to their senses.
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Thank you for your well written and informative articles!
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It is amazing, how much power the governments... each as a whole and in part, have gained only in the last couple hundred years. Thing are advancnig quickly.
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Really very interesting what raises more and more the objections that are raised to the traditional educational systems where all the students are treated equal and the virtues are not strengthened nor the weaknesses are worked out individually
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Nice to know you're safe. Just make sure Finland is safe for the little one. Whoa, I cannot even imagine what you went through. Hope you make it to Portugal or some place where you are still allowed to raise your kid as you want.
The country I live in (Romania) has no clear laws on homeschool, so we fly under the radar for the time being.
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Great topic @markwhittam
Thanks for sharing
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Great topic @markwhittam
Thanks for sharing
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You are absolutly right, after more than 10 years with facebook, we can now acknowledge whom it really serves, especially with drammatically falling "attention span"
http://www.medicaldaily.com/human-attention-span-shortens-8-seconds-due-digital-technology-3-ways-stay-focused-333474
It seems to be more a distraction, because of all the different bombardments 24/7. There are now more than 2 billion facebook users and it seems it serves the corporation more than the people, especially with their new "extream content" censoring
Stay strong and follow your intuition. :-)
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This is terrifying. It's just a matter of time before we see this kind of thing in the US. Sickening. @ironshield
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Oh wow.. I really feel for you. What a journey you and your family have just been on...
This makes me really appreciate being in the UK, being a homeschooler myself. I am so glad for you that you are now somewhere you feel free!
Sending lots of love to you and your family, all the best!
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