RE: Why aren't there more libertarian countries?

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Why aren't there more libertarian countries?

in freedom •  8 years ago  (edited)

Because humans are stupid and irresponsible.

Libertarianism requires as disciplined and responsible population, whereas what we see now (even in the personal lives of people) is the exact opposite.

Libertarianism is a utopia, that humans simply don't deserve.

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If that's the case, obviously humans can't be trusted with a democracy either.

Of course not, democracy is the worst form of government that has ever existed.

Your preference is monarchism or a dictatorship?

Neither, I want a free voluntary society with no government, where everyone governs himself, but I was saying earlier that it's pretty much unlikely that this will ever happen, and definitely not in our lifetimes.

But that doesn't mean that I would not prefer such thing.

Okay, I'm with you now.

I live in a place where hardly anyone depends on the government. If there's a crime, many people won't bother calling the police because they know it's futile. From what I've seen, I don't think it takes any supreme enlightened beings to live in a society like this; it just takes everyone doing their thing.

I think if a government breaks down in a society where people are independent enough to ignore it, that might be the first voluntary society.

I live in a place where hardly anyone depends on the government. If there's a crime, many people won't bother calling the police because they know it's futile. From what I've seen, I don't think it takes any supreme enlightened beings to live in a society like this; it just takes everyone doing their thing.

Good for you, now the only thing that needs to be done is eliminating taxes, since if the govt doesnt provide any service what is the point of taxes? :)

I think if a government breaks down in a society where people are independent enough to ignore it, that might be the first voluntary society.

If they can resist the nationalist influences of securing the nation = creating a government.
If they can resist the marxist influences of establishing our equal community = creating a government.

Government will sneak in left & right, so people have to be very educated to resist it. The first requirement is freedom of speech, which is just a thing since the internet. We are a long way of securing our freedom.

Anarchism is utopia. Libertarianism is possible, although people are stuck on a mindset that tells people should hand all their important decisions to authorities always. This is bound to change, imho, but maybe slowly.

Both are possible, but it takes a lot of evolution in human society. Maybe in a 1000 years we will look back and see how primitive we were, but not in the near future.