FUD and Pancakes

in fud •  6 years ago 

Since I first heard @starkerz speak of us all being held accountable for the rewards/inflation pool, I've spent a good deal of time thinking about what value I add here, and if taking a cut of the pool each day is something I deserve.

In the past two years, I've onboarded 6/7 accounts who have all since left, contributed 0 lines of code to the development of the Blockchain, and bought less than 10% of my total SP....


I asked the following question on Taraz's latest post, and wonder what people's feelings are towards this.

Do I deserve rewards?


The idea behind a flourishing Blockchain, and i guess any business, is that there is more €$£ coming in than going out. With the statement in the 2nd paragraph in mind, it seems quite obvious that I've not succeeded in doing this.

A nice reply to my question on the post linked above from @aussieninja stated:

That's an interesting question... I'd say a lot of the value you bring to this blockchain is in user-retention. Much hard to quantify... but I'm sure there have people that have logged on and interacted to make sure they rank in either the Engagement League or the Minnow League.

Taraz added:

I know that many of them are also among those who have bought in and powered up recently.

Fair points, and I guess this helps, once the new recruits have arrived - as long as they do try to invest and power up.

Perhaps when I've stewed on it a bit longer, this is the weekly post I'll choose to allow rewards on, and leave my kick-ass eggs on toast recipes as 0 payout.


It's easy to hide behind the worst (best) maximisers on the platform and consider myself a reasonably good actor, but is that good enough?

We can't all write code, bring in new business, and roll out killer apps, and so maybe the quickest and easiest method to try to readdress the balance of STEEM in/out, is to decline payout and flag the worst of the worst.

As promised, some FUD and Pancakes:

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Bah humbug.


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Hello everyone, I would like to bring to your attention a more clearly laid out explainer of my 'theory' for how to create a culture that brings about a sustainable steem price. I do not want anyone to feel that their work has not added value, as you can see in the video, there are many ways you are already adding lots of value to the blockchain. It would be good if the people who are unsure as to what to do with their actions could try and find some clarification in THIS VIDEO explainer I put together regarding how we can all contribute to make the steem price sustainable. Some of the people on this comment thread I would like to draw attention from are: @soyrosa, @abh12345, @misslasvegas, @acidyo, @tarazkp, @katrina-ariel, @geekgirl, @evecab, @slobberchops, @shanibeer as I can see I may have made people uncomfortable with my comments and want to reassure you that, in my view, you are all adding value in your own special ways!

Thanks for this Matt.

The post wasn't meant to throw any negativity your way, sorry if you feel it has.

Clearly the bad actors are not present in the comments, and it is those that are doing far more damage to our token than those producing the best content they can, once or twice a day.

I guess that declining rewards isn't the way to go, and I'll just continue engaging and encouraging as my part in the big wheel.

Cheers.

:)) We are all susceptible to being corrupt, and even though they are not in the comments, some of the actors who do subtract more value than they lock in are rather influential on the platform and are very senior and well respected. I won’t name any names of course, but you should be able to figure it out. It’s our job to hold this behaviour to account as a community. And the details behind my message here are a way for users to see a standard with which to measure and hold these actors to account. The problem is that said actors probably also have not understood this message and so I hope that the things I have said over the last couple days help in some small way to change the culture for the better on steem

Oh, I never felt uncomfortable for what you said! But thank you for this anyway. In my opinion you could never say anything wrong mr. @starkerz 😊. You ROCK!!!

hey @starkerz, you didn't make me feel uncomfortable, but thank you for mentioning me here =). I was just trying to cheer up @abh12345 because I think he does a lot for this platform. Thanks for sharing your video, I'm watching it now!

No worries!! :) Thanks for watching! :)

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Don't underestimate the importance of getting your hands on some STEEM through 'honest' blogging and powering it up, thus getting STEEM off of the market - and getting other people to do the same too - 'leading by example'.

I'm struggling with this too, I especially struggle because I'm a real content maker (meaning I've been a blogger for 15 years... before I heard about Steem) but I don't feel my real content has an audience on Steem so I'm sometimes not sure what I'm doing here. But as long as I make honest content, make honest connections, re-evaluate my actions (witness votes, upvotes to people powering up vs people cashing out, upvoting development posts so the developer gets some reward for his/her input) I feel I do have a place here - I am responsible for 6600 STEEM not being for sale, for 30 Witness votes I can vouch for, for answering hundreds of questions from Plankton/Minnows who otherwise might still be lost in the Steemiverse, for investing or supporting a few projects, for being a sparring partner to some who are 'thinking big', etc etc.

This all goes for you too - declining payout is not the way to go here, we need you to grow your influence so you can support others so they can do all the stuff that's supposed to be 'really adding value'.


By the way, I'm Dutch, I want to see if these pancakes really deserve that 'label', if they're too thin or thick I will veto you eating those.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Damn you too fine Steemian for making sense!

That's a great list of goodness, I shall refer to this to cheer myself up in future. Thank you, a rose 🌷, or should it be a tulip for you 😊

Those pancakes looked terrible, I think even these will rank higher...

!pancakes


Thanks for contacting Pancakes Express!

Would you like to order pancakes?

Please upvote this comment with your order:

UpvoteOrder
$0.01+random delicious pancake
$0.05+excellent pancakes suited for a king or queen
$0.25+party pancakes
$1+best pancakes we have ever made
$?it's ninja!

If you would like to order your own pancakes, just make a comment !pancakes anywhere on the blockchain and we will send you a menu.

Yes, now go print my comment and frame it and never again post this kind of 'am I adding value' bull before reading it three times at least :P

Thanks for the rose and digital pancakes, good you didn't eat those nasty fake ones!

Yes boss!

Wait... no printer, errr.. I'll memorise it:

Rosa says my content is bull... something like that 😛

I have my daughter for the day tomorrow, let's see if she wants any FUD(ge) or pancakes 😁

I have now bookmarked my comment so I can simply plug it every time I see unwanted behaviour from you :P

Please let her eat FUD(ge), I don't want her to have bad pancakes :-( Breaks my heart.

Haha, thank you!

I think she'll go for cheesecake.

@abh12345, your pancakes are ready!

Source

Excellent!

Seriously? lol!

@abh12345, your pancakes are ready!

Source

I'm impressed after reading your comment. You are really doing a great job for the enhancement of steem blockchain!

Now you're making me feel like a scumbag @soyrosa... :( (joke) I've powered down once (yeah, only once) but have been taking liquid Steem/SBD away from my account. But only because I needed it (in other words: if I didn't I'd be in deep(er) shit). However, I do feel I write (some?) content that matters, engage & comment as much as I can, cast my witness votes with thought (not completely clueless) besides doing whatever I can to keep (myself) things together. I've brought a few people to the Steem blockchain, although some are not very active, but haven't counted them lately. But then again: it's not a competition, is it?

All I know is that I work my ass off at the moment. My time in the day consists of 35% family, 60% Steem & consorts, 5% 'other' crypto trading... It's all I can do at the moment.
But I am not giving up on this platform, or Steem in general, or the people here...The ones who are left are the die hards. We're responsible yeah, and we'll still be here when 'the others' come back when things are looking up again. There, happy face again:) (suits me better)Somehow my emojis are not loading...weird. I think Ned is stealing them lol.

LOL! You're far from a scumbag dear @misslasvegas - you're working your ass off here, I know. Hehe. Yes. We're here, working hard, making it a nice place for when 'the others' return or start their journey here :-)

I know you didn't aim that at me, no worries. 😘 Hehehe, 'the others'...they might always be referred to as 'the others' LOL. As in: where were 'the others' when we were all ploughing on? Hahahahaha.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

It all depends on what you will or plan on doing with your stake in the future. If you're not earning it like with this post, bad actors may be getting more. I've been asking myself these questions for some time now and unfortunately we're not at the point yet where the majority of the rewards are going to people that deserve it. Instead they're being sold on the market for another coin or even worse, fiat.

Now let me vote a post of yours that doesn't have rewards declined to make up for this one. :P

Now let me vote a post of yours that doesn't have rewards declined to make up for this one. :P

I know right.. I think I have voted on all the open ones so, I am going too have to hit one of his comments. :D

🌷

You guys are ruining my bad mood!

I'm one upping you and giving him beneficiaries through steempeak on my next post!

Asher being grumpy in the end always leads to more fun on the blockchain :')

Lols

😂🌷🌈

I hate you for being the voice of reason in the first comment!

What if all the 'good Steemians' decline and go flag the worst? What's the SP of the two sides you think?

2m good / 40m evil? Balls

Well, I can tell you from my personal experience, since I did it all: declining rewards, delegating to other red fish to grow, not upvoting my own posts and donating the liquid rewards to other users (and now leaving an established blog with some autovotes). It doesn’t actually help grow the platform. At least not with our SP.

When it comes to bringing new users to Steem. Well, sometimes what you can do is discover someone who is prominent outside of Steem, who has just started it and help them out in the beginning to understand how things work.

Even so, Steem might become a birthplace of best selling creators some day. It’s just doesn’t happen in a year or two.

Sometimes the best thing you can do, is stay around and interact and contribute by interacting :)

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Words from the wise 😊

You tried everything huh. I was thinking less about growth and more about slowing down token collapse, but I guess it's just semantics in the end.

Steem might become a birthplace of best selling creators some day.

Well that would be fantastic, music to 'Nonames' ears I think.

I'll be here contributing and interacting, and figuring out my next failed plan 😁

Edit: I forgot your rose

Not sure actually, we might be able to overrun them considering most don't bother creating "content" anymore and votetrading but instead have settled for selling votes. Not sure why the rest aren't doing that too, those votetrading with a purchased delegation and barely having any skin in the game I can understand, though.

New slack channel #overrun required?

Could even present a case to the biggest silent actor on the very very small chance of a response.

I think there's more 'content' than we think, the accounts sending out secure memos to exchanges look suspicious for one.

Good points about user rentention. That helps, and your engagement is up there. I think we need a lot of people contributing in various ways. I am among those who have bought STEEM and powered up, but I haven’t brought in any new users... as of yet. Well, maybe one but he never posted. I’ve been hoping the on boarding process would get easier. I do hope I’ve contributed to user retention, though, and that sharing my content on other social media sites at least plants seeds for future adopters, as well as adding to the overall quality of content available on the blockchain.

You've definitely helped with raising the quality of content and person!

And if we had 10000 you's this post would not exist. You get a rose too 🌷😊

word of mouth is good, actually it is great, but steem/steemit never had a real welcome page, yes there is a "FAQ" page, but something really cool that visually says "STEEM is X and we are glad you're here", it's always been hard to navigate.... I guess that's why it's perpetual beta. (-:

www.steem.com

Nice try but...

my bad, but see I didn't remember that was even there (or if I ever checked it out). that should be linked to the top of steemit.com and all the portals/platforms preferably.

it says there STEEM is most transacted blockchain in the world, I thought that wasn't true anymore

I personally would prefer people like you to keep increasing their SP. I somewhat find it insulting my upvote being declined/rejected.

I think you may find this presentation interesting.

THIS is great!! A very useful video!!

Thank you. I am glad you saw it. Rod Beckstrom is no longer a ceo of ICANN. He has his own company beckstrom.com that focuses on advising ceos and organizations.

I've felt like that before when I see autos on declined rewards. More for others though, although not who you may prefer to have them. Appreciate your input (and vote).

I'll watch the video when I get back to the laptop in Spain.

Yea I was joking. Ask not what value you bring to the network, ask what value network gives you. :)

I have a half-written article that says something similar. Ever since @starkerz said what he said it placed doubt just like it did with you. You beat me to it with your post.

I know wht you mean man.

By @starkerz criteria I've added nothing of value to steem since I joined.

Then again I'm not convinced pure content has 0 value.

But the man does have a point.

NB - he thinks BIG!

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  ·  6 years ago (edited)

I will upload a video shortly that clarifies further! There is no way that guys like u have not added value to the block chain! I’ll put the link on and time stamp it if u want to save time. I hope that @abh1234 and @revisesociology know that, in my view people like u add massively value to the chain!!

Thanks for that!

How to calculate the real value of philosophical knowledge or creative output... there's a can of worms for you for sure!

It's basically at the heart of both politics and economics.

I guess we shouldn't be too hard on ourselves at steem's failings given the enormity of the task at hand.

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Maximising the tangible amounts clients are paying for it is a start, even though there is a lot of value created that is incredibly difficult to measure. The thing I want to achieve is for people to ask the question when they see the large stake holders on the platform selling large amounts of steem without following this theory of locking in economic value, or behaving in a way that supports value negative actions

Right. I want to think big too, and help get us out of this quicksand.

Been told I'm the comments though that this is not the way to go. Back to the drawing board then!

Very interesting idea!
I would take part if we get something organized. :)

😁

I'd love to see what would happen if everyone declined rewards for a month and those that didn't were 'unrewarded'.

I'll be in touch if there is ever any momentum gathering!

Same! :D

And thanks for the Steeve Tip at the end of your post.. :D didn't know it before..
Do you have other tips?

Steeve is made by good people, certainly worth a look around there.

Steempeak is rather funky too, and that yellow snow is to be avoided 😬

You are way overthinking this. Just being part of the STEEM community is enough. You don't have to be a coder or bringing in institutional money. Be here. Interact. Even just lurk and upvote. That's enough. (Those other things are great if you have the skills and interest to pursue them though).

If you want economics talk:

Value is derived from the subjective utility of a good or service. By creating marginal interactions as part of the community, you increase the utility for all members of the community thus increasing the marginal value on the part of all users who interact with STEEM.

Said another way, what gives the social network value is the use of the social network by lots of people.

Fair enough, the economics talk makes sense.

Interact and upvote, that's me. Easy enough, whilst we wait for some magic.

For the longest time, all I did was focus on timeless content, meant to fit in with the entertainment category. I had a system set up where I'd share my links from here onto other networks, and when we had a view counter, I was seeing results. Thousands of outside eyes were viewing my work, and being exposed to this platform and the blockchain at the same time. I powered up everything, except for a tiny bit that I turned into far more, then got lucky last winter.

I still do all this. I hope this talk about content producers now being a drain isn't just another nail in the coffin for people like me. My feed is already dying. People are already refusing to vote and prefer to sell votes and support advertisements on the trending page instead; posts that barely appeal to this crowd, never mind outside eyes. Just imagine what Youtube would be if only a small handful of advertisements earned the most. Millions would leave, from content producers to consumers; gone. That's a multi billion dollar industry. More and more it seems like people here don't want any part of those billions. Content producers are useless.... until you embrace them and the eyes they attract. Ugh, I'm not feeling well today and I guess I'm just rambling about nothing.

Clearly your methods described above have been valient and had success in the past. We are in a shitty place right now though and the drain can only be content as there is no other way to 'spend' the inflation.

I've been told this is not the way to go though, not due to my content being attractive for the most part, just cause I don't fall in the bad actor camp. Fair enough, I've argued voting for people as much as 'good' content in the past.

...And you thought you were rambling. 🌷

oh but you shouldn't decline rewards, you are not a shitposter! And you do a lot for the community, so you deserve it! At least you know how to code and you get people to engage =). That's a lot more than I can say for myself....

Thanks Eve

Not a shit-poster, but not a poster of bringing value if we a strict on definitions heard in recent times.

I've been told enough times though now not to do this again, thanks!

You have lots of engagement, could go either way though if you start getting huge showing us how to work those (fl)abs 😛😛😁🌷

ahahahahah I bet my flab will be hugely popular LOL. I'll attract all those beer belly guys ahahah

I can still rate this post! Which is what I just did :)

I don't know you that long, but I can see you are bringing a lot of value to the community. But if you still feel like you should compensate, the markets seem very welcoming right now ;)

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Nice! Thank you!

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ On Steeve 😁

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If only I had some fiat spare, if I find some work I will be raising my stake for sure.

@abh12345 please consider the accounts that have been encouraged by your engagement league on a secondary and tertiary basis. I have brought on 3 virgin accounts, all of which have been stopped by a lack of Resource Credits.

Don't blame yourself for the damage from the hard fork, no blogger is responsible for this problem. We need to figure out how to work past this problem; and begin to retain the new accounts, we so desperately need.

One of my new accounts has looked at the flagging also. He saw a non posting whale flagging, and destroying an account in the (60's), that was posting regularly. He is reserved about committing his time , only to be flagged to destruction, for posting things this whale does not like.

We have a lot of problems that must be addressed, before the new accounts will be comfortable committing time and money into steemit. So don't blame yourself for circumstances beyond your control, and let's attack the real problems!

Be Blessed!

:)>

Thank you @smithlabs for this encouraging message. I'm sad to hear about RCs cropping the new account you brought to Steem, and if they need a kickstart please let me know.

I have thought about this post and the replies and will try to continue doing what I can do for the betterment of the platform. Thank you!

I planned to just buy some crypto, but I have run into problems setting up the account. So far, I am at an impasse, but we will see.

Just keep after what is possible, and ignore the rest! I worry some about these un-contributing, flagging, whales myself

Be Blessed!

:)>

Perhaps you would like a smoke with that pancake, you know a cigarette and a flapjack? How about a cigar and a waffle? A pipe and a crape? A bong and a blintz? NO?
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Take your rewards. If you don't someone with way less mojo will ;)

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I consider myself told!

Well guess I may as well just give up the idea of posting then. I never was much good at keeping up with it anyway. One of the biggest reasons I don't post often is I rarely feel I have anything useful to add. On the other hand I have been busy with family stuff and was feeling guilty for not posting.
I saw Bees comment and she makes some good points. It can be far more rewarding to play and collect cards. I have always looked at posts as conversation starters. That is what starts interaction and then the connections keep us coming back. It would be a real shame to watch that die out.

We are next to nothing without content, but I guess it's not always the case that one has to collect on it. Some have got offended by the decline though, and the comments tell me this isn't the way to go.

So yeah, post on!

You add value with your content. Engagement League and a bunch of analysis you've done are some of the reasons why I follow you and auto-vote your posts.

If you're not one of the good guys here, then who is?

Thanks for the pep-talk.

I get that I'm not the worst, just tough to nail down where I've been growing the network and giving back. You can be a decent guy and still taking?

Over-thinking it has been mentioned, and the overall verdict seems to be take your rewards and Steem on. Right o.

Oh Ash! I've been away too much recently to comment on the grand scheme of things here, but what I can emphatically say, is that you deserve every penny you've made here and then some! If it wasn't for you, I don't think so many would truly appreciate the importance of engagement, and I know for myself, you make this place pretty awesome!

Damn the pancakes and take what you've rightfully and selflessly earned from now on please :)

Awww, thanks Lynn 🌷

I have been told repeatedly and pretty directly to keep collecting, and so that's what I'll be doing - 6/7 times a day 😛

You're most welcome :)

hahaha sounds perfect .. 6/7 times/day! Are you working anywhere else right now?

😊

I'm looking but haven't found anything yet. I suspect I'll have to wait until after Xmas, and that suits me too.

Right?! No hurry! I've still got my fingers crossed for you; that prices pick up here and your life can return to normal :)

"If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If it is still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all." «-John Cage-»

"DHARMA"


(Valuate dharma first, decline rewards later)

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I'll have to add this to the list of videos to watch when I have wi-fi again.

zips it ;)

🤐 🌷 Fake tulip for you too!

Hi there Asher. I listened to the broadcast yesterday as well.

Doesn't it seem like good behavior doesn't pay on here? Having values and principles result in slim earnings on here whereas self-voting comments, alts, and sharing your "thoughts" and rambling videos here bring in the big bucks?

You've done a lot to help retain users and give morale boosts and all are untangible actions that are most often not seen or are appreciated by others (aside from the individuals you directly impact, like myself). I see so many people with good hearts and intentions and a willingness to help others fail whereas the greed on here continue to prevail.

I'm not posting often anymore because life is too crazy but I'm still trying to keep abreast of the steem world and spending my free time with Steem Monsters. I think I will continue to invest more in SM because after one year here on this platform, I continue seeing more "good eggs", as Lynn calls them, grow in small increments whereas nonsense posts and not-so-good behavior continue to be rewarded.

Hey @beeyou

I was on the phone and so it was tough to spy the attendees - glad you made it.

Thanks for the kind words of support, I appreciate them. It does seem we can't escape from greed paying the most, I don't have a solution to this :(

I remember you saying something like SM being a better place to earn STEEM than via content, I guess that's not changed in your mind?

Have a nice Christmas if I don't see you before 😊🌷

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

I remember you saying something like SM being a better place to earn STEEM than via content, I guess that's not changed in your mind?

It really does depend on the support system a user has on here. I have the same group of supporters on my posts. If Matt (yabapmatt) doesn't come across my post or one day chooses not to show community support my way...then I would be lucky to break the $1 mark..which is equivalent to 3 STEEM. Spending an hour and half (plus) trying to write a post when I really don't have anything to contribute is not worth it.

I enjoy being able to unwind after a work day with some light SM gaming before going to bed. Blogging/writing requires some time for me and time is in short supply these days.

Here is my 'earnings' with about 30-45 minutes of Steem Monsters gameplay, which I actually do enjoy.

  • Current market says the cards I won is valued at $6.52 USD, or roughly 28 STEEM.

  • Writing a post would earn me $1 STU (is that what it's called?), maybe $5 STU if Matt comes across it. That is roughly 3-22 STEEM/SP, plus the extra hours spent writing.

I know I won't get gold cards all the time and the market price is not the cash-out price, but considering the time investment, I would rather spend it with Steem Monsters!

Edited: Have a happy holiday to you as well!! :)

I don't have any of these cards, are you playing a different game?!

You are right about support system, I found it was possible to make your way into those with content, but mostly stake.

They're the new reward cards being given out on the daily quests as a rewards of sort for playing the game. The number of cards you receive is based on the league you're currently placed in. The new reward system does require players to now have a good balance of splinters in order to earn with the daily quests. I'm really impressed with how the SM team come up with ways to combat game abuse and trying to build a game that is enjoyable for everyone, from the smallest to the biggest investors.

Link:
https://steemit.com/steemmonsters/@steemmonsters/new-reward-edition-cards

The current season and daily quest rewards are these cards, instead of the booster packs, which are now only available for sale.
These rewards cards are limited edition, although the devs haven't yet decided total numbers.
Some fascinating new abilities, like silence and life leech. These cards aren't for sale except individually on the market.
You have to win them or buy them from somebody who won them.
I pulled a gold Daria a couple of days ago.
#scratchtheitch #dopamineallmine

I have been buying a few decks of cards here and there from Steem Monsters, and they have given me about 50 Steem in a discount for the purchase. Right now that is the only way I know how to buy steem, I have still not bothered with the how to buy/withdraw part of steem and cryptocurrencies in general. If for the coin steem to survive it needs for the content producers to go away, what would make steem any different than bitcoin or any of the other coins.

I'm not to sure that sending content only steemians away or having them decline payout is the way for steem to recover. Seems like the first initial big crash was all bitcoin value related, then in an attempt to get stabilize and save money, like any good democratic or socialist government they took from the poor to save the rich (RC).

I don't think the idea is for content producers to go away, just that the rewarded posts should add value to the token. Hmmm.

RCs took out a lot of spam, bit brutal for some new recruits which I hope were sorted out.

rewarded posts should add value to the token

I think that is where the problem lays. Value to one person is entirely different to another person. The old beauty problem, it is in the eyes of the beholder, or this case token giver. The people that vote through a curation trail really have no clue in many case what is being voted on.

Look at this post of yours, how many people found it of value, how many despite payout refusal voted (266). yes some are bote vote trails trying to pick up a penny on curation, point is it added value to the toke in the eyes of many people.

What type of content "adds" value to the token? How do we decide as a people if it added value to the token? If I were to remove all the vote trail votes from my content then total payout on anything that I have posted would be about $0.050 at most, that is how few real I came, I looked, I read, I valued your post votes I would get, and maybe 1 comment.

Is the only content that adds value to the token that content which an advertiser would find appealing?

OK, is this what it boils down to? Asher is 40 now and all of a sudden he's grumpy af? Jeez, what is it gonna be when you turn 50? Cat pictures? You singing songs by Abba by yourself in a dirty Karaoke bar somewhere in some shithole? Common' man! Don't drag us all down with you, I started reading this with quite the good mood... You even try to force the grumpy look in those photos.

I know... the cold and rain is getting to me too, but I don't take it out on my blog...I mean, your blog can't help it right? It's just ploughing on, taking whatever you give it, and quite contently so.
I'm going to give you the look my dad used to give me when I didn't make any sense. Eyebrows and all. Here ya go!

Now, get yourself back together and stop that crap. We're all here, more or less in the same boat. We read what we want to read and vote for whatever we want to vote for. (by the way: didn't vote this time, because now my 3 cents don't make much sense here).

You go have a GREAT time with your beautiful mini-you and let her put that smile back on your face. That's an order ;) (Sorry about that, I usually don't order people around, just wanted to throw that in there for no particular reason). And yeah, don't give her those nasty pancakes...if they're fake Dutch, they're not Dutch at all.

heheeh

@starkerz is putting forward a point of view: I'm not sure it's correct or if it is, that his solution is the only or the best one.

I didn't hear the whole of the show, so I don't know if he got any air time but @lukestokes was trying to put forward a different point of view. It would be good to have a wider debate.

This is a great point @shanibeer! It is just my point of view and I am of course open (and actually hope to be proved wrong).
The show can be listened to HERE and the part people are refering to kicks in at 1 hr and 20 mins.
alternatively, you can watch THIS VIDEO That hopefully summarizes things.
Am open to honest and decent suggestions and discussion. Piece and love!

It's good to have ideas coming forward and yours are very interesting and a welcome addition to the mix. The fundamental point about more value coming in than going out correlates with the widespread view about the value of powering up which has been around a long time. I'm just a little concerned about the speed at which your hypothesis has been taken as The Truth (and I'm not saying that you have put it forward in that way) rather than a set of ideas to be explored and evaluated. As I said in my previous comment, there are other perspectives - I mentioned @lukestokes and @taskmaster4450 is another. Piece (piece of the action, piece of the pie?) and love to you, too 😎

@abh12345, After going through from this Title one thing i want to say, in my opinion let's others spread Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, but we stood here very strong so let's eat pancakes and let's cleebtrate for the future when we look back, these are the times which will be remembered because we've never stopped.

Wishing you an great day and stay blessed. 🙂

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You are making these assumptions thinking Steem is what is of value here but it is the community that provides the value. Without it, Steem is worthless so the fact that you engage the community and support those committed to interaction demonstrates the value you bring and that is in the form of Steem. You then decide what to do with it... distribution of it is important to consider as those that get it and do not create value just do it on the back of those that do. Personally, I probably would have never increased my engagement without what you do!

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I've been waiting for SMTs and the rest of the protocol updates everybody's been talking about like Godot in the Samuel Beckett novel. All I want is HF21 done with so that marketing for mass onboarding can really begin. Growth is key.

Speaking of marketing of Steem apps for bloggers and social media users, I'm either forced to admit that with my current skills I couldn't market myself out of a paper bag or Finns have to be some of the most conservative knuckleheads in existence. Using Steem to talk to your friends while earning something instead of using a channel that allows you to earn nothing should be a no-brainer as a concept. But no. How the fuck do you get any normies to use something like Steem?

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Hard to believe, but I have only just recently been made aware of you. I think the fact that the reason I found you was because other good Steemians had mentioned you is a good thing. Like the person in your post said, you may just be the inspiration people need to keep going and keep growing. Even if you don't feel you are contributing something it would appear there are quite a number that feel otherwise. I will reserve judgement until after I have followed you a bit longer... Just kidding :)

I think literally everyone who was listening to that radio show was kind of grinding their brain afterwards. I was surprised by the list of people, because literally almost EVERYONE who is a little dedicated seemed there, I felt. I think Starkerz reply got us all thinking.

But exactly as you say, we cant all be developers and masterminds. There also have to be users. (I had this discussion a lot of times at steemfest when people asked what I was doing on the blockchain and I replied with being 'just a mediocre blogger' the answer always was...We also need users!) And what you can do then is be a user with the best intention (which you have), so stop declining payouts so in another moment you can support good projects with a bigger stack.

But hey...how can pancakes be bad? Literally EVERYONE can make the perfect pancake! epic fail

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Aw man, that defeats the purpose of this whole thing. Don't let it become about what you bring. The whole premise was that you can get rewarded for what you do and it doesn't have to be code or any of that shit. Besides you are one of the most popular dudes here!