I'm experimenting with posting some random bits of my genealogy research here with the goal of eventually creating a linked family tree on Hive. You can see the index here.
John Holland is another indidivudal that was born far enough back in time (near 1400) that it would be very difficult or likely impossible to find out any info were he not royalty. However, as a Duke and Earl there is plenty of info on him. Of course, some of the people in between him and current generations can get a bit obscure.
Gramps was able to find multiple relationships of John Holland to me. The closest is as a twenty-first great grandfather. At a glance, it looks like this is through my paternal grandfather on his mother's side.
I use GenoPro to maintain my family tree but I mainly use Gramps to generate reports which is what most of the info below is based on. GenoPro generates reports too, I just don't like them as much. While GenoPro is commercial software, Gramps is open source software that is available for Windows, Linux and MacOS. I also use its relationship calculator functionality as noted above. I've also been exploring The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding (TNG) which is web based and requires a web server, PHP and mySQL database. I also have GedSite which also generates static HTML reports.
Both TNG and GedSite are commercial software so you have to pay for them. I think their price is reasonable and they are both excellent in their own ways. However, I prefer the open source nature of Gramps and the fact that it generates static HTML makes it easier to work with. I still like TNG enough that I will probably keep using it as well. I've been playing with GedSite on and off but haven't committed to it yet, however I've liked other sites I've seen generated with it. For now I am generating reports with Gramps and updating TNG on a fairly regular basis.
The chart at the top is an ancestry chart out to four generations from Gramps. The chart at the bottom is a descendant chart out to three genearations created by TNG. The index of all individuals I have posted so far can be found here.
The Skaggs-Files
de Holand, John 1 2a 3<
| Birth Name | de Holand, John |
| Gender | male |
| Age at Death | 50 years, 9 days |
Narrative
John Holland, 1st Duke of Exeter (1352? - January 16, 1400), also Earl of Huntingdon, was an English nobleman, primarily remembered for helping cause the downfall of Thomas of Woodstock and then for conspiring against Henry IV.
He was the third son of Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent and Joan "the fair maid of Kent", daughter of Edmund of Woodstock, a son of Edward I. His mother later married Edward, the Black Prince. Holland was thus half-brother to Richard II, to whom he remained loyal the rest of his life.
Early in Richard's reign, Holland was made a Knight of the Garter (1381). He was also part of the escort that accompanied the queen-to-be, Anne of Bohemia, on her trip to England.
Holland had a violent temper, which got him in trouble several times. The most famous incident occured during Richard II's 1385 expedition to Scotland. Ralph Stafford, eldest son of the Earl of Stafford, killed one of Holland's esquires. Stafford went to find Holland to apologize, but Holland killed him as soon as he identified himself. The king had Holland's lands seized. Their mother died during this time, it is said of grief at these events.
Early the next year Holland reconciled with the Staffords, and had his property restored. Later in 1386 he married Elizabeth, daughter of John of Gaunt. He and Elizabeth then went on Gaunt's expedition to Spain, where Holland was constable of the English army. After his return to England he was created Earl of Huntingdon, on June 2, 1387. In 1389 he was appointed chamberlain of England for life, admiral of the fleet in the western seas, and constable of Tintagel Castle. During this time he also received large grants of land from the king.
Over the next several years he held a number of additional offices: constable of Conway Castle (1394), governor of Carlisle (1395), and then governor and then constable-general of the west marches towards Scotland. His military servies were interrupted by a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in 1394 (which may be connected with his earlier troubles with the Staffords).
Holland helped the king take down Thomas of Woodstock and Richard Fitzalen, Earl of Arundel in 1397. He was rewarded by being created Duke of Exeter on September 29.
He then went with Richard on the king's 1399 Ireland expedition. When they returned the king sent him to try to negotiate with Holland's brother-in-law Henry Bolingbroke. After Henry deposed Richard and took the throne (as Henry IV), he called to account those who had been involved in the downfall of Thomas of Woodstock, and in the end took away all rewards Richard had give them after Thomas' arrest. Thus Holland became again merely Earl of Huntingdon.
Early the next year Holland entered into a conspiracy with his nephew Thomas Holland, Earl of Kent, Thomas le Despenser, and others. Their aim was to assassinate king Henry and return Richard (who was in prison) to the throne. Their plot failed, Holland fled, but was caught and executed. Among those who witnessed the execution was Thomas Fitzalen, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, son of the Earl of Arundel who Holland had arrested some years before.
Holland's lands and titles were forfeited, but eventually they were restored for his second son John Holland, 2nd Duke of Exeter.
Events
| Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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| Birth | 1350 | Upholland, Lancashire, England | 3 | |
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| Death | 1400-01-10 | Pleshy Castle, Boroughbridge, England | 4 | |
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Event Note
D: 9 Jan 1398/99 Cause: Execution Age: 50y |
Parents
| Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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| Father | de Holand, Thomas | 1314 | 1360-12-26 | |
| Mother | Plantagenet, Joan | 1328-09-29 | 1385-10-07 | |
| Brother | de Holand, Thomas | 1350 | 1397-04-24 | |
| de Holand, John | 1350 | 1400-01-10 | ||
| Sister | de Holand, Margaret | 1353 |
Families
Family of de Holand, John and of Gaunt, Elizabeth Beaufort |
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| Married | Wife | of Gaunt, Elizabeth Beaufort ( * 1364 + 1425-11-24 ) | ||||||||||||
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| Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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| de Holand, Elizabeth | 1386 | 1424-01-04 |
| Holand, Constance | 1387 | 1427-11-14 |
| de Holand, John | 1395-03-29 |
Pedigree
Ancestors
Source References
- http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jdp-fam&id=I4643
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David Meier: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jdp-fam&id=I4647 Royals, Rebels, Presidents, Paupers, Thinkers, and Thieves
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Source text:
ID: I4647
Name: John de Holand
Given Name: John
Surname: de Holand
Suffix: 1st Duke of Exeter
Sex: M
_UID: 47032AFA5118D811BE490080C8C142CCDE9A
Change Date: 10 Feb 2004
Note:
John Holland, 1st Duke of Exeter (1352? - January 16, 1400), also Earl of Huntingdon, was an English nobleman, primarily remembered for helping cause the downfall of Thomas of Woodstock and then for conspiring against Henry IV.He was the third son of Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent and Joan "the fair maid of Kent", daughter of Edmund of Woodstock, a son of Edward I. His mother later married Edward, the Black Prince. Holland was thus half-brother to Richard II, to whom he remained loyal the rest of his life.
Early in Richard's reign, Holland was made a Knight of the Garter (1381). He was also part of the escort that accompanied the queen-to-be, Anne of Bohemia, on her trip to England.
Holland had a violent temper, which got him in trouble several times. The most famous incident occured during Richard II's 1385 expedition to Scotland. Ralph Stafford, eldest son of the Earl of Stafford, killed one of Holland's esquires. Stafford went to find Holland to apologize, but Holland killed him as soon as he identified himself. The king had Holland's lands seized. Their mother died during this time, it is said of grief at these events.
Early the next year Holland reconciled with the Staffords, and had his property restored. Later in 1386 he married Elizabeth, daughter of John of Gaunt. He and Elizabeth then went on Gaunt's expedition to Spain, where Holland was constable of the English army. After his return to England he was created Earl of Huntingdon, on June 2, 1387. In 1389 he was appointed chamberlain of England for life, admiral of the fleet in the western seas, and constable of Tintagel Castle. During this time he also received large grants of land from the king.
Over the next several years he held a number of additional offices: constable of Conway Castle (1394), governor of Carlisle (1395), and then governor and then constable-general of the west marches towards Scotland. His military servies were interrupted by a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in 1394 (which may be connected with his earlier troubles with the Staffords).
Holland helped the king take down Thomas of Woodstock and Richard Fitzalen, Earl of Arundel in 1397. He was rewarded by being created Duke of Exeter on September 29.
He then went with Richard on the king's 1399 Ireland expedition. When they returned the king sent him to try to negotiate with Holland's brother-in-law Henry Bolingbroke. After Henry deposed Richard and took the throne (as Henry IV), he called to account those who had been involved in the downfall of Thomas of Woodstock, and in the end took away all rewards Richard had give them after Thomas' arrest. Thus Holland became again merely Earl of Huntingdon.
Early the next year Holland entered into a conspiracy with his nephew Thomas Holland, Earl of Kent, Thomas le Despenser, and others. Their aim was to assassinate king Henry and return Richard (who was in prison) to the throne. Their plot failed, Holland fled, but was caught and executed. Among those who witnessed the execution was Thomas Fitzalen, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, son of the Earl of Arundel who Holland had arrested some years before.
Holland's lands and titles were forfeited, but eventually they were restored for his second son John Holland, 2nd Duke of Exeter.
Birth: ABT 1350
Death: 10 JAN 1400 in executed Pleshey Castle, Boroughbridge, EnglandFather: Thomas De Holand b: 1314 in Broughton, Buckingham, England
Mother: Joan (Fair Maid of Kent) Plantagenet b: 29 SEP 1328 in Woodstock, Kent, EnglandMarriage 1 Elizabeth Beaufort Of Gaunt b: 1364 in Burford, Shropshire
Married: AFT 1383
Children
John de Holand b: 29 MAR 1395 in Dartington, Devon
Constance Holand b: 1387
Elizabeth de Holand b: ABT 1389 -
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This site is a hobby. Use it for fun and enjoy it as I do. Most information comes from the Internet and sources have not been verified. You will find all 43 Presidents, many other politicians, statesmen, royalty, nobility, religious, philosophers, scientists, entertainers, sports figures, and black sheep.
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- Michael Neuman: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=michaelrneuman&id=I106131&style=TABLE Neuman-Smith-Goodale Family and Ancestors
- David Meier: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jdp-fam&id=I9805&style=TABLE Royals, Rebels, Presidents, Paupers, Thinkers, and Thieves
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Last change was the 2022-05-06 17:50:40
Note: I've sourced all of the quoted material the best that I can. Sometimes, the source where I get the material ends up not being the original source. Worse, in some cases the link to the source I have no longer works. These are the perils of online research I suppose. In any case, I bring this up because I noticed that much of the quoted text above appears to come from the Wikipedia entry on John Holland which was not otherwise directly sourced since I originally got it from somewhere else and that website no longer exists.