Who Is Geoengineering Our Demise?

in geoengineering •  7 years ago 

When I look up into the sky and see ‘contrails’ that never disappear, that instead intersect with one another at almost perfect 90 degree angles; that bleed into each other throughout the day creating a hazy cloud cover day after day, I wonder about the trouble our children are having with everything from asthma to neurological difficulties and what might be causing such issues.

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Geoengineering, covert weather modification, SRM… it’s happening all around us and most people prefer not to acknowledge its existence. I understand this inclination, believe me. I spent years poo-pooing my friends who tried to engage me in discussions about ‘cloud seeding’ and ‘chemtrails’, preferring to think of our government as a benevolent authority figure. As I have gotten older, however, all I see around me are questions. Why is that happening? Who said you could do it? When I don’t get answers to my questions that make sense, I get even more curious and all that digging into truth has brought me here, to these questions and research.

I found out about the dangerous chemicals being sprayed into our atmosphere, chemicals which are inevitably accumulating in our bodies and more importantly, into the bodies of our children, I knew I had to find out what was happening and who is responsible.


Who

The first person responsible for Geoengineering, SRM, seeding clouds, etc, is ME. Yes, me. Me and YOU and you over there, and ESPECIALLY you in the corner who throws up your hands to declare, ‘Not ME!! I don’t even VOTE!’ as though that is some kind of honorable response to the disgusting muck that is today's political system.

I know I keep saying this, that this is our responsibility, and I believe it is. I teach my children that if you don’t like what is happening to you, look at what your role in the situation is. Are you acting in a way that is allowing this to happen? Many times the answer is yes, very rarely is it all someone else's fault. We have to make sure we are electing the right people to our governments, that we or someone we trust is helping us truly understand the laws we vote into power. We must start within ourselves to make real change.

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Who Else?

Who are the people advocating for Geoengineering? David Keith of Harvard University is one. His book: A Case for Climate Engineering is the game plan for the deep state elite to run massive experiments on huge populations.

Oliver Mortonis another. In his book: The Planet Remade: How Geoengineering Could Change the World, he outlines exactly what the so called “conspiracy theorists” are most afraid of.

From the synapsis:

The risks of global warming are pressing and potentially vast. The difficulty of doing without fossil fuels is daunting, possibly even insurmountable. So there is an urgent need to rethink our responses to the crisis. To meet that need, a small but increasingly influential group of scientists is exploring proposals for planned human intervention in the climate system: a stratospheric veil against the sun, the cultivation of photosynthetic plankton, fleets of unmanned ships seeding the clouds. These are the technologies of geoengineering―and as Oliver Morton argues in this visionary book, it would be as irresponsible to ignore them as it would be foolish to see them as a simple solution to the problem.


Cease and Desist

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This must be stopped. Global warming is a tiny threat when put up against the long term, massive damage caused by the irresponsable spraying of heavy metals into our atmosphere. Our children and the planet itself will be the ones to bear the biggest burden caused by these disastrous actions. Compounding the mistakes of previous generations is in no way a sensible response for our current situation.

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The politicians and deep state psychopaths don’t lose any sleep over these issues. Do you?


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Yeah it's sick what OUR government will do to us... anything to keep the people under their control..

keeping the people under their control means they get to stay in power, and thus the vicious cycle continues... we have to break it.

Hopefully the success of crypto is the start.. once they lose their control over money everything else will follow..

from your lips...

It is NOT our government but a government that is hijacked by the elites and secret societies. Even the politicians are just puppets for the puppermaster behind the scenes.

I know that this might be an exercise in futility but:

  • Correlation is not causation. Simply because you see contrails and an increase in health conditions does not mean that the contrails are the cause. In fact, if you want better causes of our declining health you should look at the chemicals in the food we eat (which are put there by companies not governments), carbon dioxide emissions (which the government tries to control to the best of its ability while maintaining the viability of a fossil fuel based economy) and our sedentary lifestyle.
  • I noticed that none of these conspiracy theories are backed by legitimate science. On the contrary, there is actual science disproving the SLAP nonsense. Furthermore, contrails are comprised primarily of frozen water.
  • Cloud seeding is not necessarily nefarious as they can promote rainfall in drought stricken areas. For example, a few years ago there was a massive drought in the US Midwest and scientist seeded clouds in North Texas and were able to produce increased rainfall. It was ultimately ineffective because of the lack of moisture in the air due to the air current that typically runs from the Gulf of Mexico through the Mid West temporarily shifting westward like it did during the Dust Bowl.

In conclusion, I think some people need to find better things to do with their time. I know Alex Jones got rich with his tin foil hat gag but not all of you are Alex Jones. Of course, if there are any logical objections backed by facts not conjecture then I will be happy to have a conversation.

Hey there @chris-yoder! thanks for your thoughtful comment, I appreciate you taking the time!

Let's see...

  • 'correlation is not causation'... so true my friend, so true. I understand that I am implying that it is, that I see the chemtrails therefore the increase in health conditions are the cause, however I understand that is not the way science works. I'm working with what I know and what I'm learning; I know there are trails in the sky. I know that more people are having health issues that weren't always prevalent. Further, I know that I don't know why. Could these health issues be due to what is being put in our atmosphere? When I first started, all I read was 'nope! that's not it!' without any real disucssion about why atmospheric tampering wasn't the issue. Which in turn made me more suspicious. I don't generally accept the 'because I said so' argument anymore, lol.

  • Your use of the term 'actual science' is a bit condescending, and I hope (due to the respectful tone of the rest of your comment) that you didn't mean it as such. I recognize this post in particular didn't have the same kinds or numbers of scientific articles that I have used in the past, I was more interested in the books those two gentlemen wrote this time. However, feel free to look at my previous posts with links to juicy science-y articles like the one you used, specifically the one that discusses how the aerosol used changes when it comes into contact with oxygen... it's a good one.

  • I was told that cloud seeding was a hoax, too, before I started this journey. I discounted it as such. I don't think anyone should be messing with the climate; not in the atmosphere. We need to fix what's WRONG, not try to find a bandaid that we hope won't hurt more than it heals.

In conclusion, I don't find my research a waste of time. I don't know Alex Jones but he sounds super fun at parties. 😉

Thanks again for taking the time to open this discussion!

Thank you for the kind intro and conclusion. I apologize if the term actual science sounded condescending and I can understand why it could sound that way.

Could contrails be chemically altering the atmosphere...sure. However, there were contrails for much of aviations history. For example, if you look at the bomber squadrans of WW2 there were contrails. Also, if you apply Occam's Razor to the case one can conclude that contrails are the result of water vapor freezing in the atmosphere.

I will look at the articles but I would like to ask how well they have been peer reviewed and if there is a consensous of scientists that agree with there findings.

Cloud seeding may not be hugely successful but they have increased cloud size with it but I do agree with you that we should not be trying to influence the climate as it is a chaotic system and we cannot accurately predict the consequences of our actions.

I apologize again for any condescending language.

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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I do not see any empirical evidence that there are heavy metals being sprayed down upon the populations and cities... then again I have never hosted my own weather balloon to research this, by the way, anyone who is making these claims so ardently ought to try to prove this by doing exactly that, raise a weather balloon and test for the presence of heavy metals in the atmosphere. If I were as convinced and concerned of heavy metals and "chemtrails" I would certainly be motivated enough to do the expiriments to prove it.
-RR

P.S. The only reason I am agitated, is because issues and topics like this only serve to control and misdirect the public. ( Who wants to spend all day and night in constant dread that the clouds above them are filled with noxious chemicals, living in fear of every plane that cruises above them. )

Well reasoned. Although, I think it unnecessary for them to conduct the experiments themselves as that can be cost prohibitive but at least present peer-reviewed papers that a consensus of scientists have agreed as being accurate. Yet, when asked for this lower level of evidence they fail to provide that.

Ever heard of HAARP... go Google it..

Look up Don Quixote and windmills instead.

You may need to do some more research @chris-yoder, if you think this is not happening. It is open and notoriously going on and these madmen are selling their books on amazon. Not really a surprise given the U.S. governments track record for experimenting on both military personnel and civilians. Just the facts

If it is true then provide your proof.

Read the synapsis to Oliver Morton's book.

@chris-yoder, hello! There is massive documented evidence of the U.S. military experimenting on non-consenting civilians (and military personnel, although by definition are considered consenting). There is SO much, I wouldn't know here to start at this moment, in providing info/proof for you having just read your comment. I appreciate your interest and above comments, and just scanned thru the PDF doc "disproving the SLAP nonsense," in your words. The document does no such thing, not on it's own anyway, but does provide food for thought and further research and reading. So off the top of my head, let's look not to past experiments, but to an experiment scheduled for early 2018 in Newkirk, Oklahoma. While an unscientific question, how about a human one: would you want this test to be performed on your families home? My family, from my 99-yr old granny to her 7 great-grand-children, do call this area home, I am concerned and do NOT consent to this'drill' (consent clearly isn't a consideration for the military, is it?). Call ME crazy, but I'm just not trusting the lying, murderous, military right now. Can you say "liars?"
http://kosu.org/post/security-agency-says-oklahoma-bioterror-drill-designed-prepare-hazard-not-create-one

Thank you for raising awareness about this issue @bethalea, we need as many voices talking about this here at possible!

The big question in this case would be how can this be stopped?

Fighting against government abuse has never been easy.

In my country for example I don’t see much of those chemtrails, but our government destroyed everything economically and we are trying to fix it.

I believe we have to keep going until we succeed, even if the battle looks almost impossible to win in the beginning. With perseverance anything can be achieved.

No, it isn't easy, and I'm sorry that your country is in the predicament it's in. We have to keep going till we succeed, like you wrote, because the other option - giving up and giving in - is simply not acceptable.

Two ways...
1.) Put new people in the seated position in Federal and State positions.
2.) Last option is a revolution.....

Or just get rid of the federal reserve using crypto?

I love it tank you for your poste @bethalea

This is really sad death the evil fat cats hopefully the Blockchain can bring order

I know that It's called chemtrails. There are a lot of trail here.

yep, they seem to be everywhere unfortunately.

superb post

thanks :)

well said, it is enough of so much damage to ourselves, this must stop and I faithfully hope that those in power will commit to take care of our planet, I am an environmental engineering student and every day I hurt more the damage caused, every day I see pollution of this type in my city, I live in a city called fixed point, in the state falcon of venezuela and there are 2 refineries, they enter the top 5 of the largest refineries in the world and there have been many related problems to the quality of the air for our people, you can see a dense layer of smoke leaving the refinery every morning, you can see the smoke in our homes, it is terrible and there is no control of anything from the government, if those who are in power they were more responsible and full of conscience this world would not be like this ...

why would "they" want us to be sick. It costs "them" money. Dont "they" need us to work min wage to make them rich. If I was "they" I would make something in the air make us live longer or work harder. Why would "they" spend money to just make us sick?

I think it’s so sad, always seems like we have a couple nice days and then they spray a bunch!!

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Sir ?

I never see them here. I am not sure I want to spend the time researching it, But it can be scary thinking that it could be dangerous in some way. But they don't care about my neck of the woods too much :)

I also have been trying to engage in discussion with people about this. I find 2 types of people in regards to this, those who know its chemtrails and those who deny it. Not sure why more people dont question this obvious act of atmosphere manipulation and the unknown side effects it has on us and the Earth. I also say CEASE AND DESIST the spraying.

Question: Who Is Geoengineering Our Demise?

Answer: The politicians and deep state psychopaths don’t lose any sleep over these issues. Do you?

I really like your writing style dear @bethalea.

Also, I'm not very hopeful about the future of this planet. We've already ruined it.