Why No One Pays Attention To The Gift Economy And Why They Look At Violent Stuff Instead

taskmaster4450 (78) · 7 years ago

Every chance I get @stellabelle, I shine the spotlight on yourself, @fulltimegeek, @wwf, and @steevc, all whom delegated without renting. To me, that is the epitome of this site and what is taking place.

In response to your basic question, it is a result of conditioning. The bankster run world is hierarchical, built on scarcity, and used to elevate a few while depressing the masses. People enter the world of steem (planet steem) as you call it with the same mindset.

Fortunately, the newer model is starting to take hold. My next article is going to focus upon the competition versus cooperation mindsets....obviously steem is the cooperation.

Sadly, the first 6 stories on any news cast is negative and about bad things that happened. You might get to a positive uplifting story in the second half of the telecast (no wonder fewer people are watching the news). This is what we are up against.

People need to commit to steem as if it is their own and look at the long term picture. My goal for 2018 is to make all those who view my articles very rich...the only way I can do that is by upvoting them as much as I can and supporting them completely.

Thank you for spelling all this out for us.

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ronnie60 (34) · 7 years ago

Nice to see at least some people writing on steemit are critical of our culture. Not to highjack this tread but to maybe be of help, I wrote an article a few months ago for our own blog about exactly the same thing, cooperation vs competition and why we cannot seem to make that switch happen. It's titled 'What the heck is wrong with us' and you can find it here: https://permaculturesj.wordpress.com/articles/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-us/

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mountainjewel (68) · 7 years ago

Exactly- it is a paradigm completely built on scarcity and zero sum realities where a few win and the rest lose. Foremost I can’t imagine a fun life isolated at the top hoarding. And when I see people who have More delegating And sharing to me that is in line with the core values and essence of the steemit platform. There is so much potential here for so many to become wealthy, there’s no need to play zero sum games. Because honestly we’re all lifting each other up!! I’m incredibly encouraged and hopeful by yalls actions! THANKS!! <3

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j3dy (60) · 7 years ago

well said I've been upvoting comments but I lost my audience a while back, still what you have said is worth carrying over through the new year :) post worthy even :)

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joshpeterson (58) · 7 years ago

I'm already delegating a little bit to MSP, but I know that I could be doing so much more. Thinking about delegating SP to accounts and causes I support last night actually was what motivated me to really want to grow my account so I have the resources to do so. It felt like I finally saw the Matrix.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

For me, the main reason I wanted to become a whale, is so that I could give. I saw a rare opportunity. It feels like the wrong people usually end up wealthy....

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joshpeterson (58) · 7 years ago

That makes a lot of sense. What did you do to become a whale?

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awesomianist (64) · 7 years ago

She "stellabelled" her way to the top. The best way to do so and one that's worth emulating.

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droucil (62) · 7 years ago

This here is the reason why our world is filled with so much incompetent people on top of the pyramid. I can totally rely with your point of view, as I know it all too well. Even so, myself included am still urged to this profit-driven market we're living in. The rich keep getting richer, the poor keep getting poorer... Bricks are falling down as we speak tough, as they do every so few centuries. The beauty of it is that this time we have such great technology to our availability, that we can make a real change. And I believe the Blockchain (with things like DPOS) to be the real key in making a real utopia on earth!

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

The main issue is because once people gain wealth, they don't want to lose it. This is the prime reason things are the way they are. But in here, whales have a rare opportunity: they don't have to give away their Steem.........they can delegate it freely. This is so much an obvious solution, I am still very shocked to see such a small number of people doing this. And not only that, you get to decide who to give it to. It's like you get to have your own company of people......

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droucil (62) · 7 years ago

The main issue (imo) is that people can't have enough money. If there was some incentive like a small return on curation rewards while delegating, it might become more of a thing to do. Besides, making money ain't a bad thing, there just needs to be more of a balance in doing so. Especially once it comes to negatively impact others.

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dandelion (53) · 7 years ago

It is funny. When our stomach is full, we decline to eat more and are happy to share...but is if ever possible for a bank account to be “full”???

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journeyoflife (67) · 7 years ago

It’s like a square of different people with different personalities . Every corner consist of different kind of people but the problem is you have to get around the whole square to get back to where you where .

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bitcoinflood (77) · 7 years ago

People love bad news its more engaging and stirs up stronger feelings then something that is happy go lucky. Human nature is seriously dark.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

I've spent a lot of time thinking about this and I think it's connected to our survival instincts. We have limited attention in the day. Whatever poses the greatest threat is what we pay attention to. It is a leftover from cave days. So, really, our own brain chemistry is the problem, and something to become aware of. I have noticed this in my own behaviors as well.

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googlefrueh (44) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hello Stella.
I enjoyed reading your article very much and I can connect with many of your ideas. People could really start taking one other more. I think there is alot of fear being created in the media, that hinders this to some extent. The Planet could need more people with this certain "happiness of all" point of view on the world. Keep up the good work ! <3

Warm Greetings,
@googlefrueh

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fishyculture (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey, hang in there. It is a TOTAL paradigm shift, and those who lead the charge may not live to see the final outcome of the battle... But here, I just did my FIRST give away. I did not announce it, I just went through all my posts for the past week and did this. You were not among them, but I LOVE the "abundance paradigm" you are promoting so I am adding you to the list of recipients. It is not squat monetarily, but as someone who has been blessed by the people of steemit, consider my way of showing that we are learning... we are learning...
My birthday and the New Year are coming up, and it seemed like a great time to thank my most engaged followers. I went through my last week of posts and made note of all my followers who actually commented, and I am leaving you all a tip! as my way of saying "Thank you!" and as my birthday gifting!

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meno (73) · 7 years ago

Honestly stella, even though it might be true that negative actions get more attention than positive ones, do not think for a second that what you and fulltimegeek have done has gone unnoticed. I for one have tried to emulate in my own small way his and your actions and delegated some of my steem myself... As i grow a little more I intend to help other plankton and minnows...

So it may not make the cover of the news publication, but it's impact is probably more powerful than it seems.

In any case, for what it's worth... thank you for being you.

Happy new years.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

Ok, this is good to hear! Thanks for letting me know.

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ghulammujtaba (59) · 7 years ago

This is awesome stuff. Whales can earn a lot if they contribute to this platform instead of just delegating their SP to bots.@cryptoctopus actually wrote a post today What Would You Do With 300,000 SteemPower? and I gave an idea there. I know most of the people will say it lame but no worries, let me copy paste it here as well

Use of 150,000 SP
Starting a project for minnows (Reputation score from 25 to 57) where everyday, they will be asked to write about a specific topic/tag. I have noticed that people tend to write more about tags that give higher payouts but this shouldn't be the case. There are so many tags and topics where Google don't give us relevant/quality results and we can help Google list our results. Not 2, 3 or 11 but a full 100% upvote would be given to the authors, it means, we will be selecting 10 best posts about that specific topic/tag on daily basis and writing a post about those selected posts on daily basis. Some rules will have to be followed before upvoting a specific post like the author shouldn't have used any voting bot in the last 30 days, shouldn't have upvoted his own comments and stuff like that.
Use of remaining 150,000 SP

Delegating 150,000 SP to 30 creative minnows after conducting some informal interviews. Their goal would be to give the upvotes to the tag assigned to them on daily basis, in short, they would be doing the same as the person having 150,000 SP will be doing.

It would be like a small company where everyone would be a winner. I know I am not lucky enough to get this delegation but whoever (especially a whale) is reading my comment, start this project with a minnow, a partnership between a whale and some minnows to create a small company just to help others is something I think is lacking here. I have 182 SP out of which I have delegated 150 to @utopian-io but one day, I'll have more than 150,000 SP and I am sure about this. Once I have this much SP, I will start this project and make it successful!

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

Very cool!

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

interesting, thanks for that.

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dandelion (53) · 7 years ago

Like Napoleon Hill would say, carefully made plans attract more wealth.

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mikepm74 (66) · 7 years ago

Greed outweighs giving nature at most turns. You are a shining example of doing it right. These nickle and dimers are too short sighted to recognize the effect being generous would have on the value of their Steem.

And it isn't just about giving out randomly, it is finding the people of value who not only deserve to be gifted but can make the most use of it. Gifting to the struggling artist rather than the corporate middle classer is very important as well. You and annonymous.donor made a huge impact on a Steemian's life!Alexandra, I am sure, will use that Steem for her living, which is awesome. Gifting to someone who doesn't have a need (me, the corporate middle classer) would not have near the impact.

Recognize the value of the gifting economy, make yourself a gifter, and find the right people to gift too. It'll change the world. Maybe it's slow progress, but it will happen

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samiwhyte (60) · 7 years ago

I think you and @fulltimegeek should be celebrated. You guys are true leaders, We have benefited from this delegations.
Other whale should also follow suit as human happiness is optimum.

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simondocherty (52) · 7 years ago

Love it @stellabelle. I agree wholeheartedly.

Upvoted and resteemed.

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @stellabelle! You have received 0.1 SBD tip + 0.02 SBD @tipU from @fishyculture :)

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geekpowered (69) · 7 years ago

I don't think that everyone values greed in modern society. In fact, there's almost like a philosophical war going on. Giving is still highly valued, even if there's a portion that idolizes those that rise to the top. We even seem to value those of wealth that give a bit away more than those with less that give a lot more of what they have.

I'm not sure that the modern form of giving is good though. You just give money to some group that hopefully does good with your money. I think more need to get their hands dirty. Not necessarily literally. It would be a lot better if more rich people set up sustainable charities that didn't work on just getting more and more donations, but could survive with none if necessary.

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j3dy (60) · 7 years ago

hahah thanks for the resteem and the mildly offensive post :D tell me if it works, I'm not sure that putting disgusting images on cigars gets us more smokers, but who knows, maybe paulag can do a data analysis, to me it sounds like it disempowers people because it claims they are weak, for here yeah planet Steem is the planet of the apes :D there is a lot of corruption from the monetary incentives and people's failed mentalities, but on the offside there are always awesome happy people actually contributing something to society and humanity through this platform, still they were doing it before so this is just a boost for most of them :)

I'm not a fan of Gif's gifts I can accept :D there was a time where I turned off images because of how much noise they gave out...

anyways as I said thanks for the resteem :)
https://busy.org/gifteconomy/@reko/steem-gift-circle-6-or-promoting-gift-economy-on-the-steem-blockchain-rewards-to-all-new-members

Go join the cord :)

Cheers stella, also thanks for the slothicorn I just learned of it yesterday as well :)

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justinashby (61) · 7 years ago

Cool. Anyone reading this post should follow her. Not just for the 'Gift Economy' but because she is a great example to plankton and red fish in how to post, curate and behave.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

ha ha thanks.

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robertchr (9) · 7 years ago (edited)

Life is not fair especially in the meritocratic world of Steemit. Get used to it!

stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

I never said anything was fair and I am not advocating for fairness. You obviously have no knowledge of the Gift Economy and how it works. @alexandravart got 250 STEEM from me because her art has value to me. I didn't give anyone else that.

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taskmaster4450 (78) · 7 years ago

Holy crap.

How did anyone get the idea of "fairness" out of what you wrote?

There is absolutely nothing in there that conveyed fairness, leveling of the playing field, or anything else of that nature.

Calling on others to embrace a new model, one that is starting to expand throughout the steem blockchain has nothing to do with fairness...

Basically, you are telling people to stop behaving like banksters.

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

'curious', 'right', 'fair'. Please excuse people like myself of limited and confused vocabulary to share our feelings with.

Of course we are going to be joining these words in our minds when our hearts sink as we try to connect with @stellabelle about this.

And the reason why my heart sinks?

Last week I delegated to someone I barely know, they needed nudging to the 500 SP mark in my eyes
I have delegations out to others (on a much lesser scale than FTG and SB of course)
I spend hours running stats to help people get the best out of their curation and delegation
I am unemployed and gift SBDs/Steem to people weekly

I'm sorry, I don't appreciate your choice of 'holy crap' words here as you may have gathered.

However, the 125,000 characters you wrote last week that I find across the blockchain during my travels I do like a lot.

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taskmaster4450 (78) · 7 years ago

I do apologize @abh12345 if what I wrote offended you in any way...it was not my intention not a personal attack on you.

I watched you from afar and know you do a lot on this site to push it forward. You are one of the names I first came across when I joined (and I dont think it was because you rank at the head of the list alphabetically). Following you in such a way, I can tell you there is nothing to be defensive about.

I would put your intentions for this place and your effort into it up there with anyone. Simply because you dont have the amounts to delegate like some others, so what....neither do I. We do what we can.

I post comments, you run stats. All is needed.

Again, I deeply regret for writing something that upset you...as I said it was not my intention.

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

Thank you. And I apologize for my over-reaction, that's what comes from writing with a bruised heart.

Its like, if people I respect here are feeling under-valued in any way, when we know they are providing so much to something that could be great, then that becomes me too.

I've written plenty of the gift economy, and have heard all of the news in the post above, what I haven't offered recently is an apology that i'm not doing enough, or any empathy towards users like SB who are on another level to most of us.

Thanks for the reply, it means a lot.

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taskmaster4450 (78) · 7 years ago

Everyone's contribution is needed on here. Collectively we can make this place great.

Each of us has individual talents, time, motivation, and experience we bring to the table. Our efforts on here come from intention, not worth. Each of us is worthy of all that takes place on here.

Yes users like SB and @fulltimegeek are on another level than most in terms of the financial generosity they provide....however, they are also in a position to that...

And I will tell you, I have known a number of wealthy people in my time and all of them say the easiest thing for them to do is to cut a check....finding the time to dedicate to worthy pursuits is more difficult.

Sometimes the only thing a person has to give to this site is a comment...and that is often enough.

I am from the sales/marketing background so I am use to efforts you can see. However, being on here taught me that many, including a number of whales who are not overt about it, have programming backgrounds and are doing a lot in terms of the development on this blockchain. That is something most do not see and the people do get recognized, but the jobs are getting done.

It is not me, or you, or her..it is us.

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dandelion (53) · 7 years ago

I wish more whales could talk like you guys...

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

yeah, exactly. I am asking people to also look at two different models objectively: freely Delegating SP and Vote Selling. Do the math. Look at the results that @paulag laid out. It's an obvious fact that my method works to improve the human happiness dial. The vote selling leaves people empty, just like addicts. It's the heroin of Planet Steem. Disconnected people resort to vote buying. Just like addicts.

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paulag (73) · 7 years ago

It is very obvious your method worked from the data, but let me just remind you all of what is not in the data, and that is the personal enrichment in both giving and receiving.

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dandelion (53) · 7 years ago

Amen! Divine Feminine busting up patriarchal scarcity paradigms up in here.

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paulag (73) · 7 years ago

I disagree, life is what you make of it. If you have obstacles, then climb them, If you fall get back up and all along the way leverage the kindness in humans to make it possible, give and you will receive.

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

Hey again Stella...
...well you can't actually blame people.

For how many years have we been taught that scarcity will run our lives? Generations after generations after generations. Not many people experience getting gifts these days.

Nothing is given with no interest, and so when there comes one time in which a gift is given, people look at it with suspicion.

Cheers

asadaslam1 (28) · 7 years ago

Wow @stellabelle informative post for Gift Economy i like it .

d-lights (53) · 7 years ago

It's true, the negative things in life always turned out to be the most talked about and trending..But i believe that most people didn't born with the gift of giving. The truth is that giving is a gift more like talent, if it's not inside you, you can't let it out. There is no one with a good work who doesn't get noticed at a long run, so the your good works will always speak for you when you're behind.

bijoy123 (5) · 7 years ago

Wow great writing..I appreciate to your content choice and this part just extraordinary ..I wish you win this content ...Best of luck..Resteemit

minnowboosted (0) · 7 years ago

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builtstrong (25) · 7 years ago

#GIFLife #LoveIt

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sagor5828 (58) · 7 years ago

I think these people will not be quarreling if they work together.

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soyrosa (74) · 7 years ago

The GIF economy? ;-)

But seriously, I find your view of the (Steem) Planet inspiring, although I realise my mind must be corrupted in order to find something as simple and rewarding as 'giving' an inspirational thought... It's mostly that it indeed isn't done enough and seen enough that it makes you an 'outsider' for doing it, which is what people find inspiring. (Like me, when I walk with a crutch, and people think I'm so inspiring for still going for a walk.)

Just keep on doing what makes you happy, there's at least one more person noticing what you and others are doing!

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

yeah i will start calling it the GIF economy, Fantastic!

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago (edited)

Sorry.

It's not fair.

Please continue.

I know the above isn't aimed at me, but I still shoulder some of the feelings you have towards this.

However, I shall continue to gift every week and loan out my SP to those in need too.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

Also, I am not saying that anything will ever be "fair". Nothing is fair, Planet Steem included. What I think I am advocating is for the real tribal leaders to step up, as I think this could easily operate with leaders who understand how the Gift Economy operates. Naturally, humans will always want to fight, and I am not saying that it will ever go away. My point is to show that vote selling operations actually do very little for this platform. Our way is better. Our way creates actual value, which can result in the Steem price going up.

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

'Fair' perhaps not the right choice of words. See comments to taskmaster above. I'm pissed off and upset about current events to be honest, but I shall just continue doing my thing because:

Our way is better. Our way creates actual value, which can result in the Steem price going up.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

I am mostly referring to whales, and those who have gigantic sums at their disposal.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 7 years ago

Do a good deed, then, don't tell anyone.

Who cares if everyone is looking at the negativity. Do the good deed for yourself.

Look at the joke I played on everyone yesterday. According to your logic, I should have seen record views. It's not the case. I found exactly who I was looking for.

Anyway. You probably won't even read this. Have a nice day.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

I just read this.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 7 years ago

Now ask yourself why you only focused on the negative part. :)

Yes. I did that on purpose. A trick.

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mayowadavid (60) · 7 years ago

You have spoken well @stellabelle as only few people understand the gift economy, but a post like this will bring more light to situation like this.

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apkdl (51) · 7 years ago

Wolf of Steem thanks... follow you :D

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josediccus (75) · 7 years ago

Well thing is gift giving has various perspective and sometimes it takes quite a better experience of some circumstances to know this.

I laud you and @fulltimegeek for the way you go about yours

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

"Native cultures are based on the philosophy that humans are the stewards of the natural world, and not consumers of the world’s resources. Unlike European American values, "wealth" in Native American culture is not measured by net worth, but rather by a combination of spiritual qualities, material goods, and behavior. Leaders are selected for their ability to take care of the tribe by sharing their wisdom and wealth" https://www.learningtogive.org/resources/native-american-culture-giving

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radiasi (51) · 7 years ago

woow good

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builderofcastles (64) · 7 years ago

That is all nice and well, but you are missing the root.

Humans can't give until they have enough to survive themselves.
If you keep a population in lack, fear and a not enough mentality, then you effectively control them.

Advertisements that make you feel not good enough, but maybe you will feel more complete if you buy this product, are the antithesis to the gift economy. If you still have any of this programming going into your mind, you will always feel needy.

Fear is brought to us by our tell-a-visions (by plan) but the real fear is what we are seeing in our society. It is all crumbling around us. There are major changes coming. That creates fear. We have to work with that fear.

We need to develop abundance. Similar to how @papa-pepper is doing. Living by radically low monthly costs will building out infrastructure that will support his family and others.

In a competition based economy, the sociopaths are the natural dominant critters. And this is why you see them at the top. That, and they love power more than life.

A gift economy has to start with getting people to the level of having enough.

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jaff8 (67) · 7 years ago (edited)

Your good works are seen by many. Do not get discouraged because of the perception of the community.

A wise book says there's more happiness in giving than there is in receiving. It is for a reason, with time most whales will come to see how such selfless attitude could eventually pay off.

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sunravelme (62) · 7 years ago

Money does crazy things to people- we are in the infancy of steemit at this point, and I think you will quickly see two camps divide out; people who believe in gifts and people who believe in gathering wealth. If we continue to support people who support the values of the gifting economy, who are working toward the good of the community, then we will continue to have a place on this platform.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

WEll I should be clear here. I believe in BOTH. I have the abundant mindset, and I believe also in a meritocracy.....I just think leaders should emerge who have the abundant mindset too.

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sunravelme (62) · 7 years ago

I agree that both are necessary for the success of steemit. And you've proven that we are getting leaders who believe in that ;) we just have to keep building up people who already have that mindset

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arslanhyder (54) · 7 years ago

Yep, very good idea. If this happen then everyone will try to post meaningful content instead of buying votes for their posts that contains common stuff. And it will also motivate the one's who want to earn money rather than buying it. I hope this happen so everyone get what they deserve. No offense to anyone.... :))

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olawalium (74) · 7 years ago

I sincerely appreciate what you do. I recently read about the 250 steem you have out and i was totally blown away. I always love selfless acts. Your heart is golden, so are you and not every one can understand the concept of giving. If only they know that giving enlarges the heart and even resources. If we care enough, share enough, the world will have enough. The world has enough of our needs but not enough for our greed. I always live by the code: 'I would rather live for a day and touch many lives than to live for hundred years and not be remebered by many'. Your influence really spread like fragrance and that is why i even followed. I want to see more and learn more. God bless your heart. Thank you for doing what you do. Please be encouraged to do more. I salute you.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

Well, I will tell you this, which might make you change your mind about me a bit. I invest in people. I am a fan of Alexandra's art, so much so that I want to buy it. This urge resulted in me giving her Steem. I find the act of buying stuff a bit weird, and i avoid it a lot. I prefer to give gifts as it's easier for me to act on my passions. In return for this gift i have given her, I am getting a painting. I painting that i love, which she painted. I think this shows that I have real reasons to give certain people Steem. And you can also see that I operate not on market based rules, but on Gift Economy rules. But there is still an exchange going on. I don't gift to people who I feel are not of value.....there's a big difference in this.

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olawalium (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

Exactly. You are encouraging those with talents and substance and such encouragement would motivate them to do more and even have self belief knowing whatever it is they are doing is not in vain. It sure goes a long way and i salute you for that. Change my mind about you? Hahahaha. Never crossed my mind. I am naturally drawn to learning and knowing and you have another follower now who can be motivated and encouraged with what you do. What you did for her made me know her and i checked her works and i was totally blown away and i told her so. Thanks for serving as an encouragement. It always goes a long way. what comes from the heart touches the heart.
I like the gift Economy rules. Yes, there is still an exchange involved. Smart and still helpful.

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olegw (68) · 7 years ago

Human's attention is always on the dark side- unfortunately.

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comrade (46) · 7 years ago

Good post! Thanks for sharing one of the most wonderful post, good pictures and reanimated videos. Keep it up. I follow and upvote you.

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phgnomo (64) · 7 years ago

Violence is driven by natural human survival instinct. I triggers emotional buttons that is natural to our animal state. After all we are Animals trying to survive.

But, as a famous journalist in brazil Said once(Ricardo Boechat), Charity and share are some of the few things that come from rational thinking, and that is the kind of thing that makes humans a singular animal.

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steemitri (64) · 7 years ago

I believe in the joy of giving... I think if "you give", something is going to come back some day.
I have a buddhist vision of of life :-)
Big plastic hug
Steemitri The Mannequin

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

yes, i do too.....we are similar in our philosophies, i see. big hug back! non-plastic.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

There is no joy as great as giving to someone who you either respect or like passionately!

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gtrussi (48) · 7 years ago

@stellabelle, since my short stay in this platform I was curious to see why people where ra ibg about you. I didn't run to your profile to find out but got caught up today with the headline of this post.

I'm so glad to have found this early on as it's going to be part of my building blocks in Steemit.

Wealth is so relative as most of us associate it with money, when it's only a corner of the wonky wheel. Try to feel wealthy by holding a billion in the bank while shitting your guts out in the toilet from some sort of disease. I bet the less we can think of is the billions in the bank. Unless you're a dick, or maybe I'm talking because I don't have the billions in the bank 😸 , but I had experience it with little. Money buys comfort but not happiness, a nice car, a nice house can only be so comfortable without friends, without health, without spiritual fulfilment.

The Americans (the ones that arrive later) they implemented by force in the natives to say "my land" instead of "our land" and so on.

There's an excellent video explaining the atrocities that the natives had to go through.

Lucky some good souls are still carrying on the pole of Hope like you.

I'm a believer of @stellabelle because of this Post only !

Gift on!

Gaston

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

i grew up in an intentional community where we share land. It's not amish or anything, but i believe this concept has impacted the way i think and live. I thought it was normal to have a large area of land that is communal, and shared with the community members. I still live this way, with shared land. It has advantages over individiual ownership.....and the group watching out for each other has advantages as well.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

NIce! Very few people of modern times even look into the best practices of indigenous peoples. They had a wealthier mindset than us, always did.......I see this kind of living re-emerging as we realize that our natural resources are indeed limited.

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hypnopreneur (57) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey @Stellabelle, (I know there's a good chance you may not see this post, because of all the other comments here but...) I appreciate your passion for this idea and agree that it's one that can transform the world in a heart beat.

I wanted to respond with a few points for your consideration -

there is a war for our attention and yes those who have more resources committed to less noble causes are the vast majority, however people do pay attention, just with much smaller numbers. But it only takes one person to article the idea powerfully enough to change the world. Look at any historical figure who was passionate enough about their work to impact the world and there you go.
we need to take this gift economy to the level of art-from, then it will be able to get the attention it deserves to gain momentum as a soial movement
OR
we need move advocates, evangelists, and organizations to promote / market / evangelize the concept and share examples of how to do it to maximum effect.

Anyway, wish you the best. I enjoy you content and contributions. Keep making the Steemit world and the rest of the world a better place.
Peace.

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mother2chicks (61) · 7 years ago

Those who have the least always give the most. I have noticed this throughout my life and can say with certainty it’s a truism. Most wealthy and upper middle class pour money into pet projects that enhance their lives and those of their friends. 🐓

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onyechi (64) · 7 years ago

@stellabelle For me, You've said it all.... I don't think I have anything to say, I'm not a son of bitch though 😀😀😀.... Wealth rules the world, it's ruling steemit too

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mervesaglam (13) · 7 years ago

Yes it is one of the best ones for me :)

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

Bad news sells newspapers, that is why the big players giving out SP for free like you and fulltimegeek does not get as much press as those doing vote selling. It is the weird ways of the world and we are almost getting used to it. Thanks to you and other great steemians doing great things without fanfare attached.

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stellabelle (75) · 7 years ago

I have decided to create violent art that goes along with my "good news" posts, in the hopes that people will get adrenalin and hooked to my gift economy ways......it's a start?

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

I think the guns and blood did not help my tone when i reached the comments section, but don't mind me!

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

@abh12345, I guess that happens when you are passionate about some things

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

Yes I think so. Thanks for your understanding @greenrun, I wish you a magical 2018.

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

@abh12345, I wish you an awesome 2018 too

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

@stellabelle, it would surely raise some awareness by stirring up some dirt in the "clean" waters.

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alxgraham (58) · 7 years ago

lol. I had my daughter add some encouragement!

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alxgraham (58) · 7 years ago

What you do is appreciated, but generally, "whales" of all stripes often have a hard time breaking free from the gravity of the past and increasing their own fortunes to levels that are entirely beyond anything that could ever be necessary. Violence and Drama are examples of people being drawn to what we see when we "Look Down" on others; when we look at things that are "Worse" than what we're doing. But we need to look up. Alx

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gutzofter (59) · 7 years ago

Well Said!

Recede in te ipse quantum potes; cum his versare qui te meliorem facturi sunt, illos admitte quos tu potes facere meliores. Mutuo ista fiunt, et homines dum docent discunt.

Withdraw into yourself, as far as you can. Associate with those who will make a better man of you. Welcome those whom you yourself can improve. The process is mutual; for men learn while they teach.

-Seneca The Younger-

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enjar (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

In my eyes, the Gift Economy should not be Narcissistic Altruism. When someone gives 500 Steem they should not be screaming from the rooftops and spamming in every post “look what I did I must be so great!!!!!” It should, in fact, go mostly unnoticed. There is a difference between giving and expecting to receive back “something”; and giving from the bottom of your heart with no expectations of a “reward.”

I pray that anonymous.donor truly stays unknown as he or she is what a Gift Economy should be about. That kind of giving is not about the recognition, being told you so great, or expecting something back in return. It’s pure unadulterated giving from the bottom of one’s heart. Receiving recognition every time it was done would defeat the purpose and pureness of it in the first place.

As the price of SBD and Steem go up more and more people seem hell-bent on strangling their fellow steemain over the breadcrumbs of attention. It’s getting rather disappointing.

Pure selflessness does not seek a nod of approval from fellow man/women.

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

People like Drama. If they can not find it they will create it. It (drama) makes them money. Or so they think. In the long run, all they do is show their true colors, and that is the green of envy. They envy that someone other than them is getting attention. They envy because someone has more followers, they just plain ass envy. They like to play victim and rescuer at the same time. Look at me I save the reward pool this much money. And they keep say and saying the same thing and all the while saving nothing just taking.

I would rather follow you @stellabelle, @samstonehill, and @alexbeyman, and if you have not heard of the last one, you have missed one of the most generous men on steemit. The aid he provides to homeless, to small injured critters, to trying his best to not be a polluter. There are a lot of other people like you three, and the ones already mentioned, you all have one thing in common, and that is you value your fellow man/woman, whereas they do not. So thank all of you and may we all find more in 2018 to try and emulate.

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shai-hulud (55) · 7 years ago

There is a lot if human history working against an abundance mind set.

Believe it or not the cold war and fear on communism leave their mark and for many the idea of redistribution of wealth is almost offensive after all isn't a man entitled to the fruits of his labours.

Additionally there is a lack of modeling in the real world of this mind set don't get me wrong Bill Gates may be a fulltime philanthropist now but didn't get to be in that position via the gift economy.

And lastly how many whales experienced real abundance or wealth prior to this platform to learn and abundance mindset.

Love the Idea tho and can definitely attest to the value it adds first time I read about @fulltimegeek and the #stewardsofgondor I was pretty dam inspired.

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mountainjewel (68) · 7 years ago

YES! Your articles were the ones that drew me into steemit and I am so encouraged and happy to see you post this. I couldn’t agree more And in fact, I wholeheartedly agree. I saw full time geeks offering and I feel for the future of steemit and Moreno equal distribution of wealth over time this is the only way. Plus it will make steemit as a platform over time More successful which should make the whales turn their heads and consider what you’re putting forth. Thank you thank you thank you!!

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normalbro (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

Great topic to bring up!! With that said I would have to disagree. I've seen plenty of whales expressing the gift economy. While it would be impossible to see every single good act that happens on Steemit, I've seen it happen more than enough times to where it has me sticking around.

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kamchore (70) · 7 years ago

you are right @stellabelle no one pays attention to gift economy because people of this era are little bit selfish they want to think about their self and their goal. that's why they pay attention to whales. however there are few who give importance to gift economy as you mentioned in your post. keep sharing.:)

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gniksivart (67) · 7 years ago

Yes, yes, yes a thousand times yes. It makes me laugh when I see whales make a post about what is good content and what it should be valued at make hundreds of dollars just because he's a whale. I could make that same post and make a few dollars.

Quit trying to drum on drama for attention and let's make Steemit a focus on paying it forward and voluntarily doing good for others.

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leap8 (54) · 7 years ago

Things are changing but maybe not as fast people who already "woke up" to the things you're talking about would like. However, steemit is the first place I found that actually has the seeds of gifting and sharing value and that's a good start that will grow. These shifts have a lot of resistance in the collective so we just have to keep on pushing. :-)

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eastcoaststeem (45) · 7 years ago

This post has been deemed resteem & upvote worthy by your friendly @eastcoaststeem ran by @chelsea88 (not a bot)

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turpsy (62) · 7 years ago

This is a priceless post. It will go years to be remembered. You basically sprout what could be termed as the golden rule. The holy book by Chriatians says "give and it shall be given to you, good measure pressed down, shaken together, running over shall men give to you". I can agree that steemians will be happy and more diligent if whales emulate you and @fulltimegeek and delegate SP based on certain criterias. Thanks for this heads up.

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windrockswater (48) · 7 years ago

@stellabelle. Some of us had an extensive chat on discord this a.m. about just this subject. We were trying to decide what if anything we could do about the "flag wars" etc. The best suggestion was to "ignore it". However, many unsuspecting people are being dragged in by the high rewards without understanding the underlying gaming involved. So it is imperative that posts like this one get created. Thank you. Steemit is life and sometimes it stinks, but thank god we have it and more good folks than ugly. Keep on keepin' on.

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royalheir (47) · 7 years ago

I think steemit needs somebody like you who will shed more light on this fact "Human happiness is the goal, and it is also the reason people stick around" than having some whales who operate vote selling "businesses" continue to get a lot of attention, those engaged in various wars, cheating, etc., while those of us (myself and @fulltimegeek) who are delegating our SP voluntarily (and with no monetary ROI), are not getting the same attention. I have taken my time to read few of ur post and I realized you are doing a great job so I suggest you be our voice. Thanks

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georgeani (43) · 7 years ago

I will drive a bit of the track but will try to maintain focus. I truly come to understand what giving is yesterday. I went to hospital visitation as I usually do, there I met this terribly sick man, after sympathizing with him, I handed him a little sum I brought to support him, cause I was told he needes about 10million for a certain treatment. As I was about to part, he put his hand on his pillow brought out about #3000 naira (8.3700 US Dollar) and said "take this from me.... " Off cause, I rejected the money but tears flowed as I hugged him.... This is an example of true givers, giving even at the point of death. Thank you!

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american-pie (53) · 7 years ago

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galberto (70) · 7 years ago

Hi @stellabelle, i see you from other person, well my opunion about steem econony, it is posible because we grow in a farm and i always saw my father with other farmers give between them seeds from beans, or corn that everyone saved from the next harvest and it would do it, i living in a comunity that interchanged or give to others person which do not have a varietity of specific plants to have in their harvest.flr this reason i believed in this method.
Well respect to the people very similar a banker here, yes i am seeing this here because people dislike help others.
And the business of bankers is that help others but took a part of the money here only took the gift of curators.
Some months ago i only have around 280 sp and need to experiment how is the be owner of a lot of sp for this reason i rent a a sp from blocktrades and operated with this, was a hard experience because we need to know and read what contents do you upvoted, how bens uncle said to spidermsn, a great power give you a great responsability, was amazing experience have super upvoted to help other friends and good contents.
Thank you for the clairly of your informative post.
Best regard @galberto
By the way have a happy new year.

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emmakwisequote (48) · 7 years ago

I still don't understand why people at the very top of the ladder struggle with those that are just coming up. I got the message you are passing across,and it is only a reasonable person like you that can think that way. Wealth accumulated without touching lives and blessing people with it is as useless as poverty itself. Naturally i find pleasure in seeing other people growing along with me. Because if you grow all alone without growing people with you,you won't find them around you,and the fact remains that we all need one another either here or there. I'm still fresh on steemit,in fact,this is just my fourth day but people like @alexandravart,@swissclive and @stellabelle have all contributed to my growth. What will it cost me to do the same for others. Though i don't have much voting power yet,my vote migth not give you more than a cent or two,but i still vote to give back to the community. I comment to encourage both new and regular people as well. @stellabella,please don't stop beeing good,even if people don't give back to you the kind of commendation you deserved for such a beautiful gesture here,you will definitely get it there.

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chelsea88 (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

You're right on the money with this one. I've never understood hoarding of wealth because you can not take it with you when you go. You probably shouldn't damage your livelihood to gift someone but at the same time how much do you really need?? I have been unemployed for a month now and though I've landed a position it is uncertain when I start. In this past month I have worked hard on steemit, harder than before becayse I had more time. More time to observe how people who started 7 months ago like I did are now behaving. Are they helping others or only hoarding? Surprisingly many are helping others. Not surprisingly, many are caught up in hoard behaviors.
Thanks to steemit though I've been able to pay all my bills from December and the first half of January. Christmas giving were very slim but that's not what it's about is it?

In the end, giving to others gives you the greatest gift in the end. So that's what I've been doing with curation. Giving my time and votes to those that need and deserve it.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

🙌🙏💖

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dandelion (53) · 7 years ago

YES! The true queens and kings of any society are ONLY those who give the most to others. Those who continue to feed and feed off of the public commons with no redistribution in the form of gifts will never be the royals they believe they are...just common grifters when they could be gifters!

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dandelion (53) · 7 years ago

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rismanrachman (62) · 7 years ago

I try to keep learning

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vachemorte (69) · 7 years ago

I was sharing my thoughts with Julia about Steemit and it's potential (and flaws) at some point she said to me "You just said the exact same thing @stellabelle wrote in a post this week" So here I am checking it out! You obviously are a leader of positive changes and to repeat myself once more that should be the focus of the platform.
Anyone that hears about Steemit today and comes for the first time to check it out will encounter the nasty stories of reward pool rape and their screaming opposition on the main page. If it would have been my first experience here I probably would have said: yeah whatever and never come back. I would have missed out on all the amazing peoples, friends, musical collaboration and the love... There is so much positive we could focus on.
As you know we will be releasing the first ever feature film world premiere on Steemit next monday (holy shit this is coming so fast...). This could be a positive event that could bring other filmmakers to distribute their film in a similar fashion and the impact on the platform longterm could be huge. This is the biggest thing I have to give to the platform (my Positive action) too bad the trending page is too busy with the drama...
You are amazing.
much love.

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