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oh my god.
I stumbled across this while searching for something totally different, yet it spoke so much to a situation I just finished writing. amazing timing. and super powerful reflections in here.
amazing, how words can bounce back like this a year later after they're written, to present themselves so perfectly when they're most potent.
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Really glad to have been writing all year. Didd this appear at top of your search results?
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oddly, yes. searched for a post on 'the subtle art of not giving a f*ck' by @the-alien, and this one came out in the top 3...
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Just this last day, I have been intensively focusing on what seem to be the causal factors involved in how the pie gets cut up. Stuff about composition, common attention grabbers, trending and reward counts, the names of people who win rewards frequently, the idea of a composite mindset of the biggest voters and their bot algos.
I'm not here to milk it, but rather, to find a way to seed extremely valuable projects. They are highly speculative so I guess it makes sense that I focus on seeing these subtle background patterns behind the appearance of the present moment, and jump on what is coming forward before it is seen.
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Hey buddy seems like you're into curation on a certain level.. may i suggest @liberosist's awesome article on it - https://steemit.com/steem-help/@liberosist/minding-my-votes-a-personal-journey-deep-into-curation
Discovering this article was quite the pivotal moment for curie's formation :)
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Yes, I fully intend to help develop deeper insights into how people vote, and actually, yeah, more or less weaken whale power to win curation rewards, and distribute them a bit differently, by profiling the composite voting tendencies. And refine an understanding for writers to up the grade of article that is written, as a necessary consequence.
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Lol i laughed so hard at this!
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a great example of milking it is when stabelle started her secret writer program :).. her rewards went down pretty fast, and perhaps have not returned much since then, if she had stuck to doing about 3 great posts about herself per week... hmmmm?
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Not too sure if that's milking - the posts were quite interesting.. but yeah it may seem like milking it - and constantly getting into the daily trending without upping the ante may wear down on some voters/users alike!
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loved your writing since I first came across it, and it's only gotten better since.
a number of great points synergistically fused together and articulated perfectly in this. feel no need to add anything to the discussion via the comments, as you've summed up and stated well what ought to be said on the topic.
keep 'em coming... :-)
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Thanks @rok-sivante! I hope all your lengthy advice in the early days ain't going to waste :D
Are you heading to Amsterdam for the fest? I've just confirmed my itinerary :D
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if you meant any advice I gave you, it appears to have gone to excellent use. :-)
I don't think so. tempting. though was already planning for a Thailand honeymoon around that time. if do Amsterdam instead, gotta hit up some other spots in Europe - and for the two of that, it'd really be pushing budget, and would much rather do Europe in the spring/summer. not set in stone and still open to the possibility, though leaning towards the nay-no... :-/
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boom!! perfect post it seems we boith think of the same things these days.
way to go
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I think synchronicity is a real thing especially on Steemit :D - just saw the title of your latest, wtf? Gonna checkit out soon!
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right?! Sincerely pretty amazing :)
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The real essence of life!
I hope everyone reads this excellent post!
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Thanks @norbu! And will I be seeing you in Amsterdam?? :D
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Those are some excellent points @kevinwong. The trollers and FUDers need to read this as much as anyone milking the system. They need to take a step back and figure out how they are adding value to the eco-system and not just deriving value out of it. It's would do everyone some good if they keep an ear to the ground and work on the platform! :)
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I think the next step is to truly figure out the fiat-crypto value streams, it really needs to happen.. maybe within the year!
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You bring up a lot of great points, @kevinwong.
In the past two months on steemit I've seen a lot of emotional overreactions quickly spin out if control.
Personally, I'm glad that I wasn't the center of any of them, and I'm glad that I never joined in either.
I think greed us interesting also. People seem to hate it in others, and yet will rant for hours because they aren't making more money themselves.
Hopefully, people will heed your advice.
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There has been some interesting articles about greed in older Steemit posts! I think conflicts are maybe necessary and also glad that some sacrificed their reputation for direct confrontation (usually for the good of others), but I just think it can be done differently..
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Yes, doing things the best way possible is always best.
Let us learn from the mistakes of others and contemplate our moves before we make them.
There will always be conflict, but we can choose how to deal with it.
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Wisdom~*~
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Amazing post!
I was having some of the very same thoughts lately! :)
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Syncing minds.. Steemit is creepy like that! In a good way lol :D
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Haha true! We seem to have them a lot :)
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fantastic post ! In the last days, I have encoutered some sad practices on Steemit. I wish everybody really reads your post and act accordingly.
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Thanks! So far I've only known plagiarism, and the usual milking-it (although quite subjective!) ..
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Your post reminds me of a joke:
What's the difference between a cow and 9/11?
You can't milk a cow for that long.
Yes I definitely have spot some milkmaids around Steemit (in my humble opinion)
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Lol that's the first I've heard of it. Yeah the milking part is pretty subjective, but one has to becareful to tread the path lightly
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I'm sorry but that joke is hilarious
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cuz it's TRUE
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Very nice article, right to the point...a society is as good as the cognitive level of its members. The same applies for Steemit even if the average IQ of the community is much higher than the average IQ of people in general. We all have a chimp inside us that we need to manage and this is a problem that can't be sold with a competitive mindset.
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Well put @mariandavp - and thanks! I think it's especially true for Steemit that it's much better to collaborate than be outright competitive on all fronts..
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Really valuable post my friend~
I have seen you be very well compensated for a lot of posts but I feel that you me posts are consistently valuable and I feel like this one is actually a lot more valuable than what it's standing at now.
Thanks for your honest and real contributions to this community, not just with your posts but other projects you are involved with as well.
I will follow you and hope to work more with you in the glory to come!
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Thanks eco green mightyman @quinneaker :)
Btw, I've been trying to get http://www.greenmanspeaks.com/ on board, and he's probably a lil too busy. Will it be good to put you guys in contact, seeing that you guys are in similar-ish deep interests :)
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Yea! Put us in contact! I am always looking to meet the rare people dedicated to sustainability!
He may have won the award but I GUARINTEE I am more "green" =)>
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Lol, awesome - will try to get into contact again :)
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Great!
Appreciate the consideration!
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I like the concept here. A platform with as much potential as steemit tends to self regulate enough to weed out the users that aren't committed to the long term success of the idea. I agree we should ask ourselves what we are building, and also asked who we are building it for....
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Sometimes i don't even know.. I guess Steemit's scope is too wide.. hopefully things will converge in time :), at least for the sake of better beginnings
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We will all find out together :)
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@kevinwong
well put although I believe battles define one self. Being passive often makes one blurred
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You are definitely not afraid of confrontation!
Respect for that~*~
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Lol yes.. he's the man!
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My next post will partly be about my scuffles with the police state! Yes it's true that it often makes one blurred, totally agree with that :)
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Ohhhhhh I could write for days about that!
Hahahahahahaha
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Mine is pretty mild stuff, as I'm not very much of a frontline person lol.. but interesting tales nonetheless!
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Yes indeed!
I will tune in~*~
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Well though out and well written post with lots of good insights. Thanks for all you're doing for Steemit. Up voted and I'm already following you. Look forward to more of your writing.
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Thanks a lot @luzcypher (sick username btw!) - I've been aiming to write better ever since I've been incentivized to do so on the platform - appreciate the feedback :)
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hello @kevinwong, I'm just stopping back to let you know that your post was one of my favourite reads today that I just posted. You can read what I had to say here
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Wow thanks buddy - appreciate it!
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I take your advice to heart about planning my battles. I keep forgetting what Ive told myself so many times, that going into ideological conflicts never go anywhere. And I agree about the milking,although I have nothing to milk so far.
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Gotta start experimenting, and just contribute whatever to the platform - try it out :)
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I also choose my batles very carefully too. Why, because it's too draining to be involved in a confrotation. But if I decided to fight back, then you better watch out. There is no point to be involved in petty squabbles, life is too short for it.
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Well said buddy :) So far I've yet to come across any confrontations, only in my highest paying post actually.. but just be polite and it'll be fine.
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I totally agree about this one. I have decided quality over quantity. Better to write some worth reading, rather than posting boring stuff 2 times per day just to earn some money.
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Thanks for droppin by :) Yup, depends how one uses Steemit though, if its purely like other social media that 4-5 posts / day is easy, but it kinda dilutes one's profile for mutual-aid use..
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Good words to live by! Moderation is key, I also prefer to stay away from extremes. You've got to go with the flow and roll with the punches. I don't like inserting myself into big arguments or heated discussions. I'd rather spend my time writing constructive, positive posts instead of getting mired in negativity which leads to wasted time. I also agree you don't want to try gaming the system or taking unfair advantage. The moment you start making it all about money, it's game over for you. Write to write well, not to make money, and the benefits will follow as a natural consequence.
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I think the platform will certainly reward consistent contributions.. the relationships u form are perhaps much better than any other social platforms..
Thanks, and all the best buddy :)
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Yup, people need to understand quality over quantity. Then the "new" section can be cleaned up of fodder and people posting 4 times a day just because they can... LOL. Then curation can be a lot easier with less garbage to go through. Peace.
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There are lots of reasons to use Steemit... I'm still figuring out what 4/day is for, other than just for using it traditionally like social media. Personally, I'm seeing Steemit more as a mutual-aid society (in which it was initially designed around) :)
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You got that right Kevin !
Love this article.
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BIG thanks for the shout out! This post hit home with me. I love the question of "what are you building?" That's something all steem-folk should ask themselves before clicking "post." It's definitely a question that I've forced myself to confront more seriously / respectfully.
The steemit world is very young... let's invest the time to build it right... ;)
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I think it helps more after understanding what Steemit is generally about - it's an entire economic system by itself (thanks to @andrarchy for his lengthy posts on this). Steem is the commodity, backing the currency and there are limited amounts everyday. Posts are essentially nodes to acquire funds from the pool. And @dan at one point designed this to solve the mutual-aid society problem. So yes, building, contribution etc are definitely baked into it, regardless of ease of exploiting the system especially when it comes to botting accounts..
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Thanks for the tips, I hope you get that writers block, unblocked soon! x
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It got unblocked the moment I typed on my phone. Just about 90% of this post is through my phone, typed while on my bed lol! I think the formality of sitting down in front of the pc/typewriter can be too much sometimes!
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I have been bringing my best ideas on the phone lying down also!
It's all about relaxation and peace of mind~
That's where the insight flows~;~
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Good posting. Thanks for sharing this!
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Great Post @kevinwong
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A very thought out list of advice and things to keep in mind.
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Especially being very new to this platform, I found this extremely helpful. Thank you @kevinwong
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Nice!!! I love it... I agree
#craigrant
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I had nearly forgotten that a year ago some posts earned $788!
This is one of those posts that gets truer every day
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"give more than you can take". That nicely sums up what you are trying to say, I think. Reputation should be used for serving better the community not for abusing the privilege
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