RE: REPOST: GHOSTS 002: An EVP before I'd ever heard of the term... 1981-82 [Reposted in Spirit of Halloween]

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REPOST: GHOSTS 002: An EVP before I'd ever heard of the term... 1981-82 [Reposted in Spirit of Halloween]

in halloween •  7 years ago 

My father did not believe in ghosts. My mother did.

I do not form my opinions because someone told me so. I think for myself. I also observe. I will tell you I don't say things do not exist based upon opinion.

It is difficult to prove an opinion. :)

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yes its your opinion and mine is that they don,t exist because i never saw them observe them.. :)

Have you ever seen a quark?

Do they not exist then either?

Have you ever seen a covalent bond?

no i did,t see covalent bond nor quark but i studied about it in my chemistry class. and i did,t get it so never think about it and i stop studying chemistry :P

Yet you can't see those things. Does that mean they don't exist?

they exist because scientist proved them that ;they exist. but tell me who proved that ghost exist and they hunt someone.
i like horror movies but i don,t believe in them.

Science theorized they were there before they found them. They didn't just turn away and say "it doesn't exist".

That was my earlier point. Science can only prove things it can measure. It can only disprove things based upon things it can measure. Meaning they can have theories about how something works and once they measure it some of those theories will be disproven.

Science can neither prove not disprove things that they have not found a way to measure. That doesn't mean they do or do not exist.

no one had ever seen the almight Allah but i believe in Allah.

That is a good example. You haven't seen Allah but you believe in him.

So why not ghosts? Why can you believe something might exist that you haven't seen, and not another thing?

As to me. I don't believe in human religions. I do believe there is a good chance of a creator/catalyst type event, but I don't believe we can describe that in any simple book written by man. So that makes me what is known as a Deist.

Though I do believe in freedom of religion, and from religion. So I do not begrudge you for any religious beliefs unless you try to force them upon me, or pass laws that force me to act a certain way due to religion.

there is the point you don,t believe in religion. because you don,t have prove about any thing.

No I don't believe in HUMAN written religion. As I said I am a Deist. I do believe there likely is a creator or catalyst event. I've seen interesting things that make it possible. In addition, if it were a complex simulation we live in that would still imply a creator, or catalyst.

What I don't believe in is some guy sitting and having a vision and then using primitive human worlds to try to define reality. Then having everyone else do what that human and perhaps others said or wrote simply because the human said it was the truth.

I don't believe in THOSE types of religions. I consider it arrogant people pushing their speculations upon others as fact.

If I see something unusual I can say it was God, a spirit, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Yet how do I know?

Because I said it was so does that make it true?

Then I write a book. Does me writing a book make it true?

Should everyone define their life based upon my opinion simply because I wrote it in a book?

Every one says muslim are terriost .. but if you serch about it . in kashmir hindu are killing muslims. in bahrma buddist are killing muslim. not only killing them they are tearing them slaughtring them . and in more other countries they are killing muslim and also saying them they are terrorist

Everyone

Not me.

Some people claiming to be "muslims" are terrorists.

I've seen some muslims call those people "Islamisists". The muslim lady I spoke to said the problem is not with being muslim, or practicing Islam. The problem is those that are "Islamisists" and have pushed it to extremes and done things that many/most of those that believe in Islam do not agree with.

It was interesting hearing her say this. It made sense.

Similar things happen with a lot of other words.

We have the same type of thing related to skin color pushed heavily in the U.S. People just like to generalize and try to label and lump people together. They try to view a complex world through simple concepts. It's a bad practice.

Do you know i am a muslim ???

Sure. You mentioned Allah. I don't have a problem with that. I am telling you about ME, not you. I don't expect you to agree with me. I figure you'd rather me be honest with you. That is what I am doing.

You are free to believe whatever you want.

Yet, I am not someone who censors myself. So I tend to talk about anything. I am totally fine with you being a muslim. If you try to make me a muslim, or pass laws that impact me based upon religion then I'd not be fine with that. Yet you haven't done that, so I am totally okay with it. :)

My mother is a Christian.

I've known people of many religions.

It doesn't bother me.

Yet, in relation of ghosts it was relevant as we don't have proof of Gods beyond the words in books, and the words of man.

So why is people writing about experiences with ghosts, or talking about seeing them not valid, but talking about a God is?

That was my only point.

We can't disprove a thing simply because we can't see it. That includes Gods, Allah, and Ghosts. :)

i don,t believe in them because they afraid me... :P . if i start believing in them they will afraid me more !!

Hahah... I can accept that. Though you might be surprised. I have a different reaction because I like fear. :)

heheeh i also like fear but i don,t have guts to face it.