Thinking about trying butter oil and fermented cod liver supplements. Anyone have any experience/recommendations?

http://www.naturefoods.co.nz

sift666 (65) · 7 years ago (edited)

This what @kiwideb and I do for a job, so we've got truck loads of info - here is some to start with:

http://www.naturefoods.co.nz/remineralising-teeth

http://www.frot.co.nz/design/wapf/teeth/

Just don't get me started on fluoride - I might start to slobber and foam at the mouth...

http://www.frot.co.nz/design/health/fluoride/

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kafkanarchy84 (74) · 7 years ago

You guys sell this stuff? Can I buy some from you with Steem? :)

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kiwideb (67) · 7 years ago (edited)

We'd be sending it from New Zealand to Japan, but we can do that, if it works for you. Shall we talk turkey in SteemitChat or Discord?
EDIT - I've sent you a one word message in Chat. Hopefully its the real you not the fake one!

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gwiss (48) · 7 years ago

Few comments:

My daughter had cavities, two of them, both in the same tooth (premolar) upper teeth both sides. She had them in her baby teeth. One I had the dentist pull. The other he put a (non-amalgam) filling in -- but then I took her back about 6 months later to have him pull because she got a peri-apical infection in that tooth. Don't really like the concept of fillings so wasn't unhappy about that.

First thing I think is:

She likely got these cavities because she was mobilizing minerals to use to make her permanent teeth and bones -- she was growing rapidly at that point. The body is smart enough to pull minerals from stores that don't do damage. Baby teeth are one such source of storage. I have a friend who had some cavities that she got filled, and the only time she had trouble with them was during pregnancy when her body was pulling minerals from her teeth to use for the baby -- this happened to her over two separate pregnancies -- not a coincidence.

So, I approached it like you did, from a nutritional standpoint. We tried the whole oil pulling thing -- didn't make a bit of difference to those cavities. Again -- I don't think her body was interested in fixing them. They were single use teeth that the body was going to throw away anyway.

We stopped her drinking juice. And I started giving her a glass of grass fed cow milk, non-homogenized, non-pasteurized, from Jersey cows daily. No cavities since then.

We also do not use fluoride toothpaste. She drinks filtered water with no fluoride. I have no problem with topical fluoride treatments -- go ahead and dope the enamel -- it does make it stronger. Topical contact is the only way that drinking fluoridated water works anyway -- so get all the benefits of fluoride for the teeth with none of the drawbacks of actually ingesting the poisonous stuff.

Make sure you get plenty of sun exposure -- it's not enough to get enough minerals, you need the vitamin D to absorb the calcium, and the oral version is not the same sulfated version that you make from sunlight.

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kafkanarchy84 (74) · 7 years ago

Thanks for this. This whole comment is really helpful/thought-provoking and makes senses. My son is growing extremely fast right now, too, so that may ave something to do with it.

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geke (70) · 7 years ago

I use calcium and magnesium citrate powder (you can get it loose, not in capsules, on Amazon) with baking soda. First I dip my brush in a bit of coconut oil. Since doing this I see a difference and I've read many places that this combo will help remineralize teeth.

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fitinfun (71) · 7 years ago

Coconut oil or hemp oil
diatomaceous earth, baking soda, bentonite clay, activated charcoal
Real salt from utah

I use all of those for oil pulling - gently - a few times a week. I don't use all at the same time. Most of the stuff is from amazon and the charcoal is from the pet store.

You will be astonished at what comes out of your gums. Brush your teeth and rinse with the salt water first. You start with a really small amount and swish it around. Then spit in the toilet. Then brush after - also gently.

If your son won't tolerate oil pulling - you can try brushing with any of these combos.

This is all over Pinterest. I'm on a natural teeth board with a bunch of ideas. The clay and earth are what remineralizes, I think. There are also a lot of food based ideas of what to eat and not eat for your teeth.

Good luck - a lot of people have good success.

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rkreddy (47) · 7 years ago

Every so often I feel gums weak I go on oil pulling and cod liver oil spree and about a week things get back to normal and I fall off the wagon.

I read about Dr Price and have started using same brand that u have in your post and am seeing positive results!

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katsics (43) · 7 years ago

I've been taking cod liver oil (not fermented one) for about 2 months now but primarily for my skin problems. However, I noticed that my teeth also whitened and strengthened. I haven't been to the dentist lately but I think it's the effect of the cod liver oil since it has good amount of vitamin a and d (especially the liquid one).

Green Pasture’s Fermented Cod Liver Oil is one of the popular ones but they had a controversy about their cod liver oil being rancid. You can read about it here: https://chriskresser.com/important-update-on-cod-liver-oil/

Garden of Life’s Icelandic Cod Liver Oil seems to be a popular alternative to Green Pasture though.

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kiwideb (67) · 7 years ago

There was a report written by Kayla Daniel, supposedly exposing a lot of scandal relating to the Green Pasture cod liver oil. Taken at face value, it was quite damning. But on closer examination, most of it didn't hold up.

I think it's true that the fermentation doesn't agree with everybody and that some people do better on a non fermented oil. But for those it agrees with, the fermented does appear to be more effective.

We addressed some of the concerns here: http://www.naturefoods.co.nz/cod-report

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themisd (25) · 7 years ago

As a medical student i can say that this really works for strengthening the teeth.I can also say that the latest info suggest that you use a liquid form of cod liver oil instead of a capsule one for better absorption .

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oldmangainz (41) · 7 years ago

As an older person, I can say for generations I and my forefathers have used cod liver oil in bottles freshly preserved for long term use, and eaten cod as a fish, it is amazing and you guys will learn the magic of cod again, seems now you are in a new form.

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judas (51) · 7 years ago

A dentist friend of mine once told me that having a habit of using straw will preserve your teeth. Especially when drinking sugary drinks. The logic behind it is that when you use straw the drink will pass trough your teeth and directly into your throath hence will not in contact with the liquid.
Although i'm not a big fan of this idea because I think plastic straws are bad for the environment, but perhaps you can try using reusable straw that's made from solid plastic or wood or something.

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kiwideb (67) · 7 years ago (edited)

We bought some stainless steel straws from AliExpress.

Though, according to Ramiel Nagel, its not the sugar coating the teeth that is the issue, but more the damage it does to the biochemistry.

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parvelous (45) · 7 years ago

This right here:

It has no business tasting as good as it does. And it has no burps or aftertaste. It is god tier.

I have no idea how this might improve tooth health, but if your looking for Omegas and such this is the bees.

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lewy (38) · 7 years ago

Well, since you asked, I was told by two dentists that the ph of saliva tends to contribute the most to dental decay. So the goal is to eat a diet that keeps the ph of the body and saliva in an alkaline condition. I also think that flossing and brushing 1 to 3 times daily is helpful too. That will keep food particles from staying on the enamal. If there is, for example, sodium in a piece of food that is on your tooth which has calcium in it, you now have two dissimilar metals together to create galvanic currents which will eat away at the metals. The ph of your saliva will determine the intensity of the electrical activity. I believe that it is these little pico currents that over time cause the tooth to decay.

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ruta (46) · 7 years ago

I heard alot about this but never tried myself. How old are kids? as they might be pretty sensitive to cod liver oil and if they are perfectly healthy, I would still consult with a doctor what is appropriate daily dosage for FCLO.

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kafkanarchy84 (74) · 7 years ago

Really? Cod liver oil can be harmful to kids?

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kiwideb (67) · 7 years ago

In a natural form of cod liver oil, with natural vitamins, the A & D work synergistically and you'd have to take an awful lot for it to be dangerous. A maintenance dose for a child would be about 1/4 tsp per day, but in this case you could give up to 1/2 tsp for a while. I'm more inclined to think that the omega 3's can be overdosed on if too much is taken over a long period.

Green Pasture check regularly for contamination. Somebody else brought up the so-called scandal in another comment, which I will address in answer to that comment (so you won't see it come up in your replies)

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