Could HF21 be the revival of the upvoting of the comments?

in hf21 •  5 years ago  (edited)

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Well the ones who are reading my blog frequently do know that I am not a fan of some features of the HF21! The one which borders me the most is the 50/50 split. But I do think that I can life with that.

Yesterday I did write that the time of being able to earn a decent amount of SP for a newcomer by writing comments was passed. This had nothing to do with people not willing to upvote comment but due to the fact that the value of Steem did get depleted. As a result it was impossible for the smaller account to upvote a comment which had a value above the dust threshold and still keeping a decent amount of Voting Power left behind to curate posts! Probably also some bigger account did delegate too much SP towards voting bots, so that they did have the same problem.
But also without the delegation it was much harder for these big accounts to spread enough upvotes. The value of their votes also got a big dive, so they also started to run into the problem of maintaining a decent amount of VP.

@preparedwombat did replied on this part which started to make me think. Yes, this happens once in a while!

The conclusion of my brain wave is that HF21 could be the revival of the upvoting of comments again! I know that there are still people who kept on doing this. Also they had to decrease the % and amount of upvotes they were giving but they kept on going! Great examples of this are @abh12345 and @tarazkp.

But will HF21 also motivate others and even smaller accounts to start doing the same?

Why would/could/people people start to upvote comments again?
Well most comments which are upvoted are only upvoted by 1 steemian. In this case the writer of the comment did get 75% of the upvote value and the other 25% does roll back to the curator of the comment, in most cases the writer of the post. This was before HF21! After HF21, the writer of the comment will only get 50% of the upvote and the curator the other 50%.
In my case upvoting a comment would be much smarter than upvoting a post. Why? When I do upvote a post, I will have to battle it out with lots of other Steemians to get a part of the curation. Most Steemians are capable of giving much higher upvotes than I am able to! At the moment a 100% of me is just below $0.04. But when I would upvote a comment which is a reply to my master piece, I do know that around 50% of this $0.04 would flow back to me!
Not only that I do increase the engagement of my readers by rewarding them for reading and leaving a genuine comment behind, which of course attracts others to do the same on my post!

For some accounts the scenario written above could be more rewarding then when upvoting a post with 100%!

But there are a lot of stars that need to be aligned for this to be happening! For once the ROI of delegating to the bidbots should decrease, giving people a reason to decrease their delegation!

From now on, I will reserve 1 100% upvote for the comments on my post! I will try to spread it as much as possible!
It would be great if others would follow this example!

Cheers,
Peter

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That's interesting, Peter. Never considered that but it could be one positive out of this HF21 for the small fish.

We will know a lot more a week after the HF when the first posts will be paid out!

So an upvote at a comment in my own blog will be a kind of "selfvote". I will no longer ONLY do it as a thank you to my readers. Now it is also "I want some money of my money". Intressting thought.
I dont care about this fork. I do not think it can change my way of using steemit. BUT I hate this downvotes at this FREE platform
Blockchain is free. Steemit is free. BUT if you put wrong tag you get downvotes and angry comments, if you publish an funny picture that someone do not like you get downvote because bad content. Thats the price of freedom... Sometimes I do not get this "two side coin"

It is just a theory, time will tell how everything will work out!

From what I understand a 100% upvote will be worth less if you are the only one upvoting something and increase as more upvotes come in. That's the non-linear reward curve. If this is the case it will totally kill comment upvotes and all kind of engagement along with it.

The good thing about this system is that it's very effective in fighting spam and abuse. We'll see later today how it all works out.

Let's hope that it will for once be a smooth transistion!

50/50 is great. It works well in all of the tribes and gets people to vote content more. Not everybody needs to post to earn so there should be less shit put up just to get steem. People can earn just by voting.

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Let's hope that less shit posts will appear.
I do think that the biggest surprise will come from the bidbots. They for sure will do something to survive and it will probably make then richer and stronger. Also with the linear rewards, the bidbots will be needed for 95% of the steemians!
Cheers,
Peter

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Not sure about all these, will have to just wait and see next!

My understanding was that a post - or comment - had to be worth more to be paid out (rather than the "dust" returning to the pool) than before. But perhaps that was old/fake news. I have a feeling it will be worth less for both authors and curators to upvote comments (unless they are very popular) but I am happy to be corrected


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