I Received An Unexpected Comment On A Post Yesterday
I must admit, I was put off by it right away. For one, I don't like people posting links to their posts in the comments of my blog in general. It's spam, plain and simple.
But also, I've been hearing numerous complaints from authors who felt violated by @dragonslayer109's use of their content for his own personal gain without providing any benefit to them as the authors.
He does not ask permission to feature posts, which bothers many people who view it as disrespectful. He does not share any of the rewards that he earns on his "Hidden Gems" posts, and authors rarely see much benefit from them in the way of increased rewards on their own posts.
@dragonslayer109 has done very well for himself with these "Hidden Gems" posts... But I want to emphasize that it is mostly himself that benefits.
I Broke Down The Payouts From The Post
Post Author | Post Payout |
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@gargon | $45.46 |
@bacchist | $20.14 |
@sauravrungta | $158.56 |
@hitmeasap | $7.29 |
@menta | $78.44 |
@allmonitors | $84.69 |
@kaylinart | $115.83 |
------------ | ------------ |
TOTAL | $510.41 |
The payout @dragonslayer109 received was nearly as much as all of the authors of his "Hidden Gems" combined.
That's shocking on its own. He is making more off of aggregating the work of others than the value he is adding to their posts. Clearly some of those posts would have had at least a few votes on them by the time he featured them... What they got out of being featured requires a bit more information.
How Much Did Authors Benefit?
A look at the voting on the posts reveals that the posts he featured hardly benefitted at all from his aggregation.
@gargon received one whale vote (@proskynneo, who to his credit voted on every gem post), a few random votes, and several low percentage bot votes:
The story was much the same with @bacchist:
As you might expect from the gem with the highest payout, @sauravrungta's post received the most post-post votes:
Once again, @hitmeasap saw a similar pattern to the first couple posts:
I expected that @menta's post would show a similar pattern as the others, perhaps with little more action. Somewhere between @gargon and @sauravrungta would seem about right.
Boy, was I in for a surprise!
This Is "Hidden"??
@menta's post had already received upvotes from one of the largest and most watched whales... @berniesanders!
As if that wasn't bad enough, the very next post on the "Hidden Gems" had also received similar attention:
What Is Going On Here?
The last author on the list of "Hidden Gems" will be a familiar one to most Steemit users.
@kaylinart has been consistently putting out high quality posts for as long as I can remember. She has earned a following, name recognition, visibility, reputation, and the rewards that come with those accomplishments.
Her reputation score, number of followers, and post count are in the top tiers of those categories.
Just the other week, she had an impressive run of well earning posts that really stand out when you look at her blog.
It begs the question... Why are her posts being included in the "Hidden Gems"??
But it gets worse... @kaylinart was featured in the "Hidden Gems" before. Quite recently, in fact. It was the third time in four days that a post of hers had been featured.
I also noticed @sterlinluxan was featured in at least two of those posts. He has nearly 700 followers!
Should This Be Allowed To Continue?
I have to take him at his word when @dragonslayer109 says that he started the project to help underappreciated authors gain recognition. But it's clearly strayed far from that goal.
As far as I can tell, he's doing as little work as possible in order to get a steady flow of rewards.
In fact, six of the posts from the above list were just taken from a low-volume private post promotion channel on the RocketChat.
Auto-voting from whales ensures every one of his posts gets several hundred dollars. He knows that as well as anyone. It's clear that most of them do not look at the featured posts and vote on them. The only one that did was @proskynneo. (Thank you!!)
The posts he's choosing don't reflect any kind of unique curation service. He's using well established authors and posts that have already received whale votes.
I think we need to hold people up to a higher standard if they are going to be auto-voted. This is simply unacceptable.
Look for future posts, because I have barely scratched the surface here... there is plenty more evidence that I didn't have time or space to address
Word up Bacchist. I also am starting to question the value of people guest-posting other people's work, just on the basis of their own accounts already being bot-voted by whale accounts. Presumably they are getting autovoted for high quality posts of their own, but then they use their accounts as conduits for others, sucking up 50% or more of the upvote value.
This is perverting the reason why post rewards are paid 50% in Steem stake.
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I wonder if somehow I was responsible for this trend in the first place? I had started my Secret Writer project before Steemit existed because I saw a need for people to speak the truth without being punished on social media for doing so. I suppose this stuff would have started even if I had not done it. However, I believe it is unethical to post someone else's content without giving them a share of the rewards. By not sharing, it creates bad blood. By sharing in the revenue, you automatically create a bigger pool of trusted friends and colleagues. You increase your audience in an automatic way. It makes sense long term to do revenue shares. That's my two cents.
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Perhaps, it is time to add a third source of rewarding steem together with authoring, up-voting and mining: refering (or blockchain internal linking). It shouldn't be very dificult to implement: Users and posts refered as hyperlink within the article's text could automaically get a proporcional part of the generated rewards.
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that's too tricky to implement I think because if I was covering an instance of abuse on the platform, I would not want anything to go to the abuser/stalker. Not a good idea, actually.
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Glad to see this discussion is happening - was starting to think I was the only one who was worried about this. @stellabelle, @pfunk and all - please have a look at my recent posts related to the topic of the Featured Author trend. They haven't gained much traction and I'm not sure how else to bring them to your attention, so here they are:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@nonlinearone/is-steemit-com-turning-into-federated-media
https://steemit.com/steemit-future/@nonlinearone/was-the-featured-author-trend-caused-by-the-reduction-of-curation-awards-in-july
https://steemit.com/steemit/@nonlinearone/why-i-gave-the-free-money-usd26-087-from-a-featured-author-post-back <--- please see @strangerarray's comment on being a featured author here also.
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@pfunk please see my response to @stellabelle below. Thanks!
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Personally, I enjoy the series and appreciate that Dragonslayer has brought attention to emerging authors. How they allocate payouts is up to them. If I hear complaints from authors themselves, then maybe I'll re-evaluate, but I have not heard it's an issue. How the community of voters chooses to support these kinds of posts is up to the community.
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This is a complaint from an author, for what it's worth. Others commenting in agreement are also authors whose work he has profited off of...
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Thanks. I stand corrected on that point. The community can decide.
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If some have issues with their post getting promoted by all means message me and tell me you dont want it, (not a direct reply to you donkeypong) thank you for your support.
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Hi @donkeypong. Please see this comment from @strangeray, an author who had been featured by @dragonslayer109 https://steemit.com/steemit/@nonlinearone/why-i-gave-the-free-money-usd26-087-from-a-featured-author-post-back#@strangerarray/re-nonlinearone-why-i-gave-the-free-money-usd26-087-from-a-featured-author-post-back-20160824t161026368z
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you forget to take into account that it is to help get your posts shown I spend 8-10 hours looking for posts. many thank me for the opportunity to get featured and seen... most posts would get next to nothing without my help so if you didnt like what I have done and didnt want to get featured then say so . and no a link is not a comment spam when it is there to help your post out
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I was under the impression that you shared the SBD with the authors, and knowing that you do not changes my perception of what you're doing, to be honest. That's neither good or bad, because what I think about what you're doing doesn't matter.
Keep in mind that if you shared the SBD you'd still be getting Steem Power for yourself, as well as name recognition and increased reputation. If you think that your time putting the post together is worth 100% of the rewards, then that's fine I guess.
It remains to be seen that your efforts consistently bring exposure to the authors featured. If that is the case, then that's great!
This is how it works with the Steemit Photo Challenge. The majority of the SBD, plus donations, are converted to Steem and given away as prizes, upwards of 300 Steem every single week. The rewarded (7 people, usually) do what they want with their prizes, cash out or power up. Much of the time @berniesanders goes and upvotes winning submissions and comments as well to spread the love. I get to keep the Steem Power and I keep a bit of the Steem generated from the rewards for my time. That is the way I choose to do it, give away most of it.
You should be rewarded for highlighting actual hidden gems, but it should also bring direct value and exposure to those featured. There's a happy balance somewhere in there, I think.
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However, that's from his "featured posts". He features other authors and all the Steem Dollars will go to the author. This posts is about the "Hidden Gems". Another, similar project. However, he have never stated that he shares the earnings with the users he features within these posts.
One can discuss the intention of these posts all day long.. One can discuss the earnings or if dragonslayer should or should not share the earnings from these gems. I personally believe he should share the earnings, but I don't mind if he don't. It's entirely up to him and I appreciate his effort with these posts no matter what he decides to do.
When I got featured. Both of the times. I could have got a superb amount of earnings and success.. In my case, I didn't.. But I could. I had the chance. A chance I wouldn't have got without dragonslayers post.
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Ah okay, perhaps I've been mixing the posts up a bit.
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Edit: I thought the parent comment by dragonslayer109 was a reply to my comment but it was a reply to bacchist. Leaving what I wrote below anyway.
Actually I'm not talking about your gems posts here. Those are your own posts. I'm talking about where a person will post another Steemit user's article just because they're getting autovoted. I see that this is what you have been doing lately, and you seem to do it very well.
Is that worth a 50% take? I don't really have a say, as it's between you, the authors of the articles you post, and the people who vote for you. This is a laissez faire place. Maybe it really is the best way to get new authors into the spotlight. It's a shame that the 50% stake from rewards gets bypassed, as I believe that to be a really good way of keeping quality posters around.
Of course the problem since Steemit started picking up steam is still finding the good stuff. If you're putting that much time into digging gems up, kudos to you. The SP you make from your authors goes to a good curator.
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You featured me today too. I would be ok with it if you shared all the SBD with the authors, and stopped featuring authors who are not hidden gems. I don't personally want to take the place of another author who could do with the exposure...
There is value to this kind of work, I have seen one of @biophil posts, and that set up seems far more reasonable and fair. If @dragonslayer109 sees this, your success won't continue if you carry with your current set up, however a small change could solidify your place on Steemit for the long haul...
I want every user to find a home on Steemit, there is still a home here for @dragonslayer109.
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+1 to this. As @bacchist stated, we believe your intentions were pure when you started, but now it seems you are sloppy and greedy.
Pay out the sbd to the authors, feature posts that haven't picked up steam (pun intended), and everyone will appreciate your work a lot more.
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6 of the 8 posts (including mine) were posted to #2000SP. You obviously just took them and slapped your post together.
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What is #2000SP?
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Is #2000SP some kind of double secret probation chat room for people with 2000SP or more? I have 2,500SP but have never heard of it ... my invite must have gotten lost in the mail ;)
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Did you just not see my questions or do you choose to ignore them? Thanks.
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Oh hey, I didn't mean to ignore you. It's some private channel on the RocketChat. Somebody just added me to it one day.
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No worries, thanks. I think it's one of the symptoms of what's broken with SteemIt that people with 2000SP need to go post their articles in a secret channel that they have to be invited to - instead of people following users with 2000SP and upvoting their stuff. Further, you have to be "in the club" and invited by someone - simply earning your way past 2000SP isn't enough. I mean, it's a blockchain .... the fact that whoever has 2000SP or more is public knowledge and, IMO, it shouldn't be "necessary" to also go pimp your post in a secret channel.
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wow - @dragonslayer - thank you for making my post a "hidden gem". It really helped put me on the map. It amazes me how people look for a negative motive - leftover scarcity from the indoctrination, surely.
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This article could be a lot less hostile if you had attacked the concept of "hidden gems" more objectively, and kept away from attacking specific users, such as @dragonslayer109.
What you're writing isn't untrue, nor do I completely disagree, but you're making @dragonslayer109 out to be some sort of profiteer.
And that's just rude.
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Hello Bacchist,
I understand, that you dont agree with the Idea of someone getting rewards just be "using" the work of others.
Basically I agree with that.
But actually, what dargonslayer does, is one of the essential activities on this plattfoem: he is curating content.
Following your logic, it shoud be forbbiden to get curation rawards just by up-voting content, since you are just "qualifying" someone else's work with your vote.
More over he does more than just qualifying them, he is also bookmarking them based on his criteria as curator.
Beyond that, he is also adding short but insightfull sumaries to every post which are not only useful to the reader but also a prove that he his doing is job: he is reading the posts he issues.
I think dragonslayer's hidden gems are not only an added value for the comunity but also a win-win-win situation. The author get more rewards, the reader, get a pre-filtered pick of interesting articles to read and dragonslayer get also
rewarded for the hours he spend working on it.
Why dont you give a try an write some classification article? I will be more than pleases to dig into your "picks"
(sorry for the typos - writting on the iphone with my kids sleeping at both sides)
Yours sincerely
Pablo Garcia
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Are you getting 400$ for curating as it's everyone's duty to do on here?
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Well, but is it dragonslayer's post not worth 400$ if to he curators say's so?
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First of all, let me say this. I upvoted your post as I agree with some of the things you've said here. I know that these people doing "hidden gems" are making a small fortune by doing this.. And unfortunately, the authors being featured in these "gems" aren't successful at all. At least not most of the times.
However, I've been featured two times by @dragonslayer109, and I don't think I had any success on them due to his feature. That sucks. Truly.
I would obviously have wanted to earn at least 50% of the money @dragonslayer109 made from the "gem" and I would have been happy to see all the authors being featured in the "hidden gems" earn more than @dragonslayer109, but I still appreciate the things he does, even though it doesn't bring the authors a great deal of value.
I have personally started something similar like him. I do "Hidden Photography Gems", as I believe most photographers doesn't get the attention they deserve .. And I've actually also stated in a private conversation that I have thoughts of sharing the Steem Dollars with all the people I feature.
My idea is to share everything with them divided by 5 (As I feature 5 different authors in my gems). No matter how much I earn from the posts, but as I earn an average of $3 or so, it's not worth it at this time.
@dragonslayer109 on the other hand, has become an established author. He gets a bunch of upvotes from people who regularly upvote his content.. Which is why the gems makes him a great deal of money. - And sure, I think it would be a fantastic idea to share his earnings with the authors, but on the other hand.. Why should he? - It's not his fault that people who upvote his gems doesn't upvote the authors he features.
He features people's content and the rest is up to the people who votes.
With all this being said, I still appreciate his efforts and I can see potential in what he does. He gives people an "extra way" of getting exposure.. But you can't blame him if your posts doesn't get attention. It's the voters fault.
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that's cognitive dissonance right there man :)
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You're an effective ombudsman. Nice work.
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beautiful word, eeks!
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Nice investigation bacchist.
First though is, who has the right to "allow" this to continue or not? Does Steemit really want to go in that direction?
But why would someone be upset about this? If Dragonslayer links one of my posts, the absolute worst that can happen is for none of his readers to go to my article. The next best is for one to go and upvote. I'll take all the help I can get.
If someone goes to his posts and doesn't like it, they don't upvote. If they like but think he's already made plenty on it, they don't have to upvote.
Hopefully those highlighted will get some attention, upvotes and new followers.
I proposed a different model that involved more community participation, but there was little interest. Chances are, hardly anyone saw it. Maybe if Dragonslayer had picked up on it, he could have promoted it and ended up with a little competition. :P
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The community at large chooses what to support.... I was making this post to promote discussion and give the community the chance to decide what to do (or not do, as the case may be) with it.
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I want to emphasize something: Aggregators like @dragonslayer109 will be some of the most important people on the site once it grows. there will be thousands (if not milllions) of great new authors producing many fantastic articles that gain no traction and would it benefit many people who otherwise wouldn't see them if not for him. There will be increasing demand for whale/dolphin aggregators
The future of Steemit depends on people like @dragonslayer109 and I believe he will come through 😁
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I don't agree with this necessarily, but I do agree it is very possible, and the concept of promoters and aggregators shouldn't be dismissed just because they are "evil middlemen making money off the efforts of others".
I don't know whether @dragonslayer109 guide posts are adding value or not. This post raises questions but to make the case they aren't I would suggest more detailed study is needed.
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This hidden gems post is actually something of an outlier, because the posts that he featured as hidden gems actually had payouts that were about equal the the rewards he got from his hidden gems post... most of the time, his post receives much more than all of his featured posts combined. As I said at the end of this post, I left out quite a bit of information... Depending on what happens, I'll be following up on this post.
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I much prefer the Lost Content Digest by @biophil. Not only does he give all SBD to the authors, but he features low traction posts AFTER their initial payouts. i think what dragonslayer is doing is past the ethical gray area and we should probably begin to downvote for it.
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lol
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Brilliant :)
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The biggest thing is not sharing sbd with the gems. Some of those make under 1$ and look baffled as his post make 400$. Just the fact that the hidden gem post made >>> than ALL the gems combined shows that the idea is flawed, that's not even CLOSE to reasonable!
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He should give SBD to authors, no question. He gets SP fro crying out loud.
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There are two aspects of this that seem to lack integrity:
Doing a revenue share would actually create a bigger audience, build trust within a community and solidify commitment to working towards common goals.
Am I understanding correctly that none of the post rewards go to the authors that he's featuring?
If that is the case, bad blood will be the outcome, especially long-term.
I would highly advise re-thinking this model.
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You are correct, it would seem. I was recently featured by him for this post here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@voltarius/how-to-maintain-a-flawless-steemit-reputation
This post was already at $90+ even before he featured me, so I guess when he gets his payout we'll see if he shares the revenue or not. I suspect probably not, but only time will tell.
I completely agree with you on the notion of asking for permission and sharing revenues, those two factors are significantly important to making this an enjoyable process for everyone. I take a lot of pride in my work, and it feels a bit shitty when someone is making a profit off just mentioning it, and their post is so huge and full of users it takes away from the actual "featuring" part of the post.
Thanks for posting!
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Sharing goes a long long way, way into territories that we cannot even know........
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100% agree. Sharing the SBD is the easy, no-brainer solution.
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It makes no sense for him to feature your story I don't think. You are doing perfectly fine on your own. This wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't piggybacking off kaylinart and the rest.
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This is why I committed to share profits from every post in my Lost Content Digest series. I don't ask authors permission, but I share 100% of the liquid earnings with my featured authors. I've never had anything but gratitude.
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Thank you for raising something that has been on a lot of people's minds!
Obviously it's impossible to tell Dragon to stop, so I think users need to revaluate whether this is something they want to continue to support. If people lose interest, the auto-voters will too.
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I would expect Dragonslayer has discovered that bots have a voting pattern and has taken advantage of it. Which isn't bad for savy users. When you create an automated system, it should be expected that others will take advantage of it.
Bots are like white blood cells. On one hand, they are useful at creating a better user experience for everyone. They attack spam and try to keep the system healthy.
On the other hand, some bots are the Autoimmune Disease of Steemit. They are slowly eating Steemit away and the majority of real users don't care.
We will see by the end of the year which bots outperformed the other. Oh, and I'm not going to post like Dragonslayer, I was just kidding about that.
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+1 why do bots autovote anyway? It is in the best interest of the bot it self! I hope you would explore this part later on. Infact if you go down and account for every steem you will be surprized.
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Nice post @bacchist but to me it seems like if every post got proskyneo's attention, then the purpose of the post was served as I imagine he would have spread the word if the post was truly epic enough.
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To me it seems like the exception that proves the rule.
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Can you elaborate on what this means?
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The fact that it only happened in the one case highlights that it is not happening more often. For the most part, his post gets voted on and the posts he features don't.
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I actually had the same thought the other day, seeing one of his "hidden gems" posts at like $600. The first thing that came to my mind was "that's probably more than any of those artists are going to get." Seems very uncool to me, I'd love to hear from some of the creators he's profiting off, especially those who already have a following.
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I was featured in today's "Gems" (he commented on the thread below to let me know as well). I appreciate the exposure for sure. But what is raised in this post is valid. Please take a look at the content, I do make high quality content :)
If there are 6 posts featured int he gems, then he should split it 7 ways at the very least, and take a portion for himself if he must. It would be nice if it would be a community effort to help others get more recognition and pay them for being recognized on his FB-style "sharing" post which generates a payout for him. Things are not currently balances as bcchist points out.
He could also do all payout to the content creators as well, as a full-on steemit community support effort, and not keep any portion for himself as part of the division of the payout, as that would be even more awesome on his part.
https://steemit.com/consciousness/@krnel/change-the-world-by-first-changing-ourselves#@dragonslayer109/re-krnel-change-the-world-by-first-changing-ourselves-20160824t135558998z
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I agree. Featuring authors who are already established does not make any sense. This series was well intended in the beginning but then it has morphed into a parasite sucking up funds which could be allocated elsewhere.
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Ultimately it's the voters (and primarily among those whales) who are choosing to reward the aggregator more than the authors. Perhaps it should be seen as a faux-pas to upvote an aggregate post without upvoting at least one of the authors.
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I do tend to look at his posts and link out to any of the posts that look interesting. I have been able to find new people to follow doing so. Having said that, distributing at least a portion of his earnings on the post to those he links to would be a goodwill gesture at least.
I don't see downvoting as the answer.. maybe more along the lines of looking at the featured authors and upvoting them instead.
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I think it's about questioning what the right way is to contribute to the post authors. In my opinion @dragonslayer109 adds value to steemit by discovering these hidden gems. He redirects attention to them, therefore I think that he thinks that those posts are undervalued. If he would then transfer the SBD (and divide it up among the original authors) from his hidden-gem post and send it to the authors, he would have added value back to those authors. He gains the steem power on his hidden gem posts and the original authors gain value through SBD.
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What do you think about him posting articles from well established authors with 500+ followers, under the pretense of "hidden gems"?
Is he really doing a service when he does that?
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This is crazy....this is the first time I ever noticed how much money my vote was responsible for raising the payout. Before I upvoted I think this post was around $34. Now it's over $100. I did not know this. Crazy.
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Are you serious? I'll explain: you are, actually from a planet called Skripton, and your real name is Ste El . Your parents managed to save you at the very last minute puting you in a space-cocoon, following your cousin Kal-El (whose nickname also begins with 'S' by the way).
You dont know it yet. But here, on Hearth, you have Powers. Great Powers.
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It probably didn't move that much, very possible there were other votes that came in between when you last refreshed and when you upvoted. But you definitely move the needle a lot and should spend time every day reading other feeds and upvoting people who may deserve more for their efforts 🙂
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It did. I am number 78 on the richlist actually. I just never paid attention to what amount was being added.
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Hello I would like to tell you this has been featured in my new hidden gems post link is http://lmaogitgud.c0m have a nice day
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Good investigation. Thanks again.
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This post has been linked to from another place on Steem.
Steemit, a place Which Pays You to Post, unless you leverage the system to maximize your earnings and then, look out!
Regarding the ongoing drama between @bacchist and @dragonslayer109...
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At the risk of spamming @bacchist, here is a link in reply to this post:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@strangerarray/steemit-a-place-which-pays-you-to-post-unless-you-leverage-the-system-to-maximize-your-earnings-and-then-look-out
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wow - I was really grateful to be a "hidden gem" out of the box - with @dragonslayer.
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Not against any people here. My suggestions:
And by this, also kill off initiatives that disinventise people to produce great and quality content, e.g. initiatives like copying and pasting links without much writing and meaninful thoughts
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It works like this. There are probably only a handful of real whales splitting their money over 300 accounts. It's all the same 5-10 people controlling the 90 %. They upvote their own stuff only. If you can't see through this, I cannot help you. They will soon cash out.
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It takes 104 weeks to cash out. Great plan.
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But why do you keep posting and reading here? If you don't enjoy or you dont earn money, you can allways go to reddit, facebook, google+ or the financial times?
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