You did exactly what I thought you would do. Okay, hip hop, which includes rap, is a culture with music that is typically geared towards the youth. There are few over 40 rappers who are widely accepted as active artists. The newer artists are typically very young. Their young concepts and mindset are linked to there often unwise, violence driven, drug use promoting lyrics. It should not have to be said that it is not all artists. I can pull up the top 25 rap songs of today, combed through the lyrics and show and prove that they absolutely do not encourage growing up and being a responsible adult. The artform was build upon anti-mainstream culture, in essence, rebellion. Now, you went back to jazz and tried to use that again. Comparisons don't prove your point. They only bring in extensions to the conversation. I have to break it to you real simple and plain, you will never prove your point or argument concerning hip hop. It is okay to be a fan of it if you want, but it is what it is. Just face the truth of the matter.