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jacekw (64) · 5 years ago

darthknight himself should declare that it was his mistake and he did not mean to send it to bittrix.

Well, he attempted to fix it, but his account is frozen by witnesses, so operation failed.

    {"now":"2020-04-04T10:02:33","trx.exp":"2020-04-04T10:02:33"}
    database.cpp:3470 _apply_transaction

    {"trx":{"ref_block_num":34431,"ref_block_prefix":1566132272,"expiration":"2020-04-04T10:02:33","operations":[{"type":"set_withdraw_vesting_route_operation","value":{"from_account":"darthknight","to_account":"bittrix","percent":0,"auto_vest":false}}],"extensions":[],"signatures":["1f6b3b96b19fc4e64fc28cb513454f2f140e05e7d750d9069b3cd56352cf04bb8b2ecc4956170c31fab4b8875eed313629120c15247a84af39b3e7abe3974a76c7"]}}
    database.cpp:3498 _apply_transaction
153516ms db_with.hpp:103               ~pending_transaction ] {"ref_block_num":34431,"ref_block_prefix":1566132272,"expiration":"2020-04-04T10:02:33","operations":[{"type":"set_withdraw_vesting_route_operation","value":{"from_account":"darthknight","to_account":"bittrix","percent":0,"auto_vest":false}}],"extensions":[],"signatures":["1f6b3b96b19fc4e64fc28cb513454f2f140e05e7d750d9069b3cd56352cf04bb8b2ecc4956170c31fab4b8875eed313629120c15247a84af39b3e7abe3974a76c7"]}

joshmania (55) · 5 years ago

Precisely.

Can we get the new steem witnesses to block you from playing splinterlands! I mean, if we are going to make up bullshit reasons, why not to help boost me up the rankings! :-)

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jacekw (64) · 5 years ago

Lol no! ;-)

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joshman (70) · 5 years ago

Their logic or lack thereof is dizzying. Their justification for their actions is simply proving that there is a correlation between accounts they don't understand. Who the fuck cares!

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joshmania (55) · 5 years ago

Hey it's @joshman posting with his alt. Better block me!!!! Oh damn, I just outed myself.

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menerva (61) · 5 years ago

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago (edited)

I don't care about old witnesses, I want to know why users funds on steem are being frozen.

Are you trying to imply that new steem witnesses can do this because old ones did (the ninja mined stake by the way). If someone steals from you, does it mean you can steal too?

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menerva (61) · 5 years ago (edited)

Lol you accuse of other people for avoiding your questions, yet you are doing the same. It seems like you already have a set agenda and are unwilling to engage in a meaningful discussion unlike some of the other folks, so i dont see the point of going back and forth with you.

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago

Nice try. Again - I don't care about hive, I want to know why users funds can be frozen on STEEM. Can you tell me or not?

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whatsthatcryptom (57) · 5 years ago

I think I can answer that question sir. The primary concern of a witness is to secure the blockchain, produce blocks and make sure the assets of your stakeholders are safe.
If an outside threat attacks the blockchain, witnesses need to do everything they can to protect us from that.
As you may have noticed, there is/was an attack on the Steem blockchain.
If by any means necessary means that certain accounts need to be blocked for certain transactions, so be it.
It is the same logic the previous witnesses used to freeze an investor's fund. Dpos (I know its a bitch) gives the power to the ones with the most stake, in this case JS. So if our biggest stakeholder believes these actions need to be taken to protect your, mine and everyone's interest in this chain, he can choose to vote for witnesses who are willing to go that far.
If elected witnesses believe the threat is severe enough to justify these account restrictions, they can run this code. Dpos, again.

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago

Can you show me some examples of this attack?

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whatsthatcryptom (57) · 5 years ago

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago

Do you have to freeze user account to remove him from witness?

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menerva (61) · 5 years ago

This is spot on - thanks for explaining far better than i could have.

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menerva (61) · 5 years ago (edited)

I think i have attempted to answer this question multiple times and you keep ignoring the answer and harp on the same points. You may not like the answer or disagree, but ignorance is not an option. Have a nice day man. Bye.

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago (edited)

They can because others did it - OK... That's stupid.

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nonsowrites (70) · 5 years ago

Please don't argue with him. He is one of the crazy few

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menerva (61) · 5 years ago

Hey sunshine you miss me? :)

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beajinsu (59) · 5 years ago

If more than 17/20 witnesses agree on, whatever can be done in steem. That is the law here.

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cardboard (61) · 5 years ago

So at least one Justin.

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menerva (61) · 5 years ago

I never said im proud of what has happened here. At the same time you need to acknowledge that the guy who stole first has also committed a crime. Thats all im asking.

Seems like everyone is shitting on the second person who stole back and just condoning the instigator. Is a fair repesentation of the facts too much to ask for?

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bil.prag (68) · 5 years ago

i will tell you what is the difference. when they freezed steemit funds they wrote we are freezing funds that were sold of the market and that ned promised to be used for development of the chain. tron foundation is making posts on social networks about swapping steem coin for tron token and moving steem blockchain to tron. we are freezing the funds until we get more information on all of this.
I could agree or disagree on this, but it was said clearly.

Now witnesses froze 8 accounts and the statment was, there was a threth to the steem blockchain, we will not tell you what it was, you need to believe us (if you think i am making this up, one of the witnesses replied to me with "As time moves on, you’ll find out the answer.")

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ciska (60) · 5 years ago

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bil.prag (68) · 5 years ago

no, nothing to do with announcements.
all you said could be right, but that does not change the fact that current witnesses froze private funds with no explanation. Is it a BS explanation or explanation that has more logic in it is something different.

old witnesses wrote the reasons, you can read them in my previous comment. new witnesses froze accounts with no explanation just because they can. so 20 people decided to froze funds because they don't like someone and 1 man made sure that no one can change that.
And witnesses are playing dead. users deserve to know what is the threat to the chain so they can act on it.

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