The End of Student & Steem / Steem-Universal

in hive-152479 •  last month  (edited)

The list of communities,
hosts of contests I support is getting longer and longer
it's time to put it a hold.
It doesn't feel good to be used and at the same time being backstabbed.
I also wonder who it is I help.
One thing is sure, this isn't what I want.
I have had it with all the neverending chats and empty promises.
What I want is to write without all the fuzz, quatsch, and lies I have to hear.

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I did my best and it could have been a success by now but it isn't.

The moderator @muhammad-ahmad and I struggled to grow a community that isn't ours while the owner is absent. Absent as not present and absent as not able to comment, and support those who join, let alone pay the prizes for all those contests he likes us to host. Should I beg Steemians to visit such a community? I don't think so and also I believe I did it long enough.

Today the first thing I heard was that I have to....
Have to? I have to do nothing. It may be clear that I am not willing to work myself to death and pump Steem into someone else's community without having a share. Besides I am not a MOD so why should I moderate twice a week?

According to @onomzy001 the host of a contest should pay the prize! This means @muhammad-ahmad lied as he told me Onomzy001 agreed he would share the prize with the host. In the end, I was the one who did it because I felt for the participants but this is the last time. I am sorry for everyone but this is not what I want for myself and I don't like to be abused by everyone who starts a community and isn't willing to work for it (24/7 right no matter if you are ill or busy or whatever excuse you have because no one asks if I am).

Is Student & Steem the only community badly run? For sure it isn't and one of the others I try to keep alive (mainly for the members) is Knack4buzz.
I haven't seen the Admins/founders moderating once and by now all the MODs left. Crazy me is the one who still posts and moderates and today me and my banging head wonder what is wrong... wrong with me!
A lot, that must be the reason otherwise I would have left with with the other mods longer ago. So today, Sunday, I will clean a bit up and do what I like most and have no longer time for.

I am sorry for all those who count on me but just like you, I have my hard times as well but also a family, a life I put at hold for Steemians who don't care too much about me. Even though I am not rewarded for what I write I came here for a reason and that reason is not to lift others and their communities and sacrifice my days and nights no matter how I feel.

To end this I like to state that I don't like to be commanded around worse than a dog. So @onomzy001 you are warned (indeed I post this in my community because you mute me and your "thank you" is endless that's what you made clear.
For sure you will find some idiots willing to work themselves to death and take the fall for you but I refuse to be the one.

Students goodbye, if you go for steem it's better to grow elsewhere where you are appreciated. I am sorry, I introduced you to this community.

28.10.24 - update: Steem & Student changed its name into Steem-Universal 13 days ago and although they posted one contest after 1 comment both ADMs and MODs stopped commenting. The winners were never announced or received a prize.



13.10.24

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Am speechless but I can still type

You are a very hardworking steemian and 85% of steemians in this platform felt your presence when you came back, you have done alot and he only steemian I have seen moderating in more than 5 communities, quite impressive.

Deep into the game of passion and growth you decided to help Onomzy's community grow but you got a bad experience and I can see the experience is getting worst so you felt like leaving. In life is important to be in a place where we are valued. Assuming the admin was hardworking and very capable you would have consider him but I will say he's not really hardworking like the time he started steemit but I won't blame him 100% for the sudden change.

I got surprised when I even saw you assisting them few weeks ago, I asked myself is this woman agreeing to the fact that Onomzy created a community at the wrong time in steemit? Yes anyone with more than 60 reputation can create a community but is a no for me when it comes to my friend Onomzy, he's my friend and I have advised him alot but he keeps going to the other side, I never knew he was even going to create a community.

Since you didn't know it means he's not your friend otherwise you were updated and consulted or am I wrong? Is there ever a good moment to start a community? I don't think so. Even with a lot of steem, it is still waiting for members and if you have something to offer. Whatever that is has nothing to do with contests or high prizes. I gave 25 Steem and no one joined and at the same time, I see many do in a comment contest where not one single steem is offered.
I mean you meant to say: **is this woman out of her mind helping ... **

The message arrived, don't worry and I was warned by @patjewell he consulted as well. Funny in such a small world we live and you still didn't know what he planned and why. I guess that's what friends are for?

Btw as far as I know I only MOD in two communities or? Perhaps it's even 1 from tomorrow on.

A great evening, I still wait for your post.

My friend, we can only help to a certain point.
"Jy kan 'n perd tot by die water vat maar jy kan kom nie maak drink nie"."

I understand your frustration and disappointment all too well.

There comes a time in our lives that we have to trust our guts, think about our lives, and forget the rest.
And believe me when I tell you that it is not always easy when your priority is to help people.

Wishing you a beautiful week! 🧁

It's fine and so am I. Once the deciscion is made I cut the rope and continue without looking back. Let's see whose next.

Hoe gaat het met jouw project? Lekker bezig?
Een hele fijne dag/week. Tijd voor thee.

🍀♥️🤗

Ek hoop jy het jou tee geniet.

Sho ek was baie besig die laaste 3 weke. Ek het nog die hele tyd gaste wat in kom en uit gaan. Ek is nou ook vol bespreek vanaf middel November tot middel Januarie.

Met die projek gaan dit goed, dankie. Ek was nie die naweek daar nie want daar was soveel mense wat wou gaan kyk het. Met die was ons so gelukkig dat ons 2 warm maaltye die naweek vir die kinders kon gee en dit was 'n groot voorreg. Dit het vir hulle gevoel soos Kersfees in Oktober. (•ิ‿•ิ)

Ek het ook my dogter gehelp om haar nuwe besigheid van die been te kry. Ai die kinders, hulle hou ons lekker besig. Ten minste het sy belowe om te betaal vir ons vakansie in Ierland volgende jaar. Kom ons kyk maar of dit gebeur. (•ิ‿•ิ)

Hoe was jou trippie?

En nou is dit tyd vir my om 'n koppie tee te drink.

Ik ben kou aan het lijden echt... het is bar en boos. Wel lekker rustig. Vreemd zoveel rustiger iedereen doet zijn eigen ding het is alsof ik alleen woon met de hond die nog leeft (2000 euro 🤐).

Ik hoop dat je naar Ierland gaat 😁.

Kerstfeest in oktober is altijd goed. Het wordt een zielig land hier. Veel winkels happen zijn leeg en feest ieren is er niet meer bij. Er zijn 3 kleine schappen/trekjes: 1 voor Halloween (wordt nooit echt gevierd, 1 voor Sinterklaas (5 december - al jaren gevecht om) en 1 voor kerst (moet ook afgeschaft worden).

Geniet van je bakkie thee, ik ben er ook nog een.
🍀♥️

Hello!

Dit is ook vandag 'n misluke dag hier by ons. Gelukkig is dit darem nie die koue wat julle beleef nie. Dit is net onweer en die wind waai vreeslik, 22 grade.

O ja, Ierland is beslis op die agenda. As my dogter my nie bederf nie gaan ek myself bederf. Ek sou 2 jaar terug al gegaan het en toe kom COVID, en na dit was dit die groot trek. Ek het net nog nooit daarna die geleentheid geskep om te gaan nie. Nog altyd gedink ek is te besig.
My seun se verjaarsdag is in Junie en dit is die datum wat ek gemerk het. Ek wil sommer vir 'n maand gaan.

2000 euros WOW!
Ons kan nou 'n versekering uitneem op ons diere kinders wat help ten tye van mediese behandelings.

Kersfees, die dag van Kersfees is wat vir my van belang is. E

Nouja vriedin, ek gaan jou groet.
Soet wees! 💕

Congratulations on bringing a quality content. You have earned a positive vote from team 2, and it is delivered by @starrchris.

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Many Blessings...🙏🏻

Thank you bro

As I was saying, pardon me for splitting my comment, my grand daughter told me to split it. 😂

Creating a community isn't easy at all because you need to have alot of experience, you need to fall in to list of steemians who engage in this platform every blessed day. You need to have a good reputation in steemit too and you need to have resources, large amount or average, I mean steem power. Am indirectly talking to the moderators in the community because they are still growing in steemit for goodness sake.

I know what it takes to create a community and I admire that action even though is not an easy thing but I prefer to wait till I have alot of resources, before I leave this platform I must create a community, that's my mindset and am still growing as I haven't gotten to well I planned to be before creating one.

Ok look at Muhammad, who joined steemit recently, not up to 500 steem power and he's a moderator in three communities why? I knew how I even struggled before I became a moderator in steem for Pakistan, in the next two days I will be celebrating my 1 year anniversary as a moderator in Steem for Pakistan community, I worked hard every week so inexperienced steemians should stop rushing to be a moderator.

@aneukpineung78 @goodybest, @stef1

#comment #myviewmyself

I actually don't like comments that are cut into several parts. It's like watching a Korean drama series. I have nothing against Korean drama series, I just don't like waiting for the next part. But since the one calling is sk19, I ignore that feeling.

  1. About creating a community.
    I created a community a few years ago, and it eventually got abandoned. That's right what you said, SK19, it takes a lot of resources for a community to run smoothly, not just power (SP) but also manpower. That's the lesson I've learned from creating the community. It's similar to Socrates' opinion, the philosopher I admire, "By all means, marry. If you find a good wife, you will be happy. If not, you will become a philosopher." Maybe he was comforting himself or telling the world about his misfortunes in his household life, or both. In my case of creating a community, it's not much different from the story of Socrates, "Create a community, if you're not rich, at least you'll know how difficult it is to manage a community." 🥺🥺🥺🥺
  2. About being a Moderator.
    This is a noble task in the "Steem-Verse", especially related to the tasks of verifying articles, and for some others it is to increase engagement. So it requires good communication skills and time, in addition to dedication to the basic values ​​​​of Steemit. Currently my name is listed in 1 community as a moderator. And that was after a fairly long conversation following an offer from the community leaderboard, the conversation was mainly about what my tasks would be. There was no talk about how I would benefit, not at all. What made me unable to refuse (if I wanted to refuse) was because they had already delegated a little SP before asking me to take care of this community. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 The art of bribery at its best!
    Last week someone else offered me to moderate their community, and after a series of conversations on Discord I had to refuse, because there's works I need to do regularly I felt I would not have the time.

Come on, sk19, build your SP to 100k and we will join forces to create a community, maybe a "We Don't Like Cheaters" Community? Or something a bit more serious like "Come Join Us and Write Anything You Like Anytime You Want But Don't Plagiarize Because We're So Cool, And Maybe We'll Upvote You Now And Then (Upvote Not Guarantee - And Only When We're Not Asleep)" Community.


Note: this is not the first part of the comment, as there are no grandchildren there to force me to stop my rambling.

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This is not the first part of the comment, as there are no grandchildren there to force me to stop my rambling.

Let me start from the bottom, like seriously? No do you want me to feel guilty for doing that? 😂. Don't worry there will be grandchildren soon.

I just don't like waiting for the next part. But since the one calling is sk19, I ignore that feeling.

My boss said I really appreciate, this is the first time I decided to split a comment. Yes manpower is also one of the resources because is not easy at all, it was even more tougher and also profitable when communities used to do engagement challenge and not teaching team.

Almost everyone wants to have their own commmunity, because it feels like owning a school, it feels like owning a hospital or even a hotel but there's no much resources for now that's why these people haven't created communities.

Come on, sk19, build your SP to 100k and we will join forces to create a community, maybe a "We Don't Like Cheaters" Community?

Incredible I will take this as one of my challenge to work harder and smarter here. I have always wanted to have more than 100k steem power. Things has not been easy for me but I smile each time I keep on believing that the future is bright. But let's see how it goes.

No, I doubt everyone wants a community what's the point? It's not that you are noticed more if you have one. No free time and people depend on you or see you as their piggy bank. The only reason for a community is to use it for your private databank. It's easier and faster than taking a new account and build it from scratch (and have to introduce yourself again).

Come on SK you are still young so you have time to catch the 100K.. it would be awesome to start the "We Don't Like Cheaters Community" a bit sooner. I still have a community in mind though.

WDLC is that a good name?

Yes that's why I said almost everyone especially some steemians who think they will gain more if they do a community, that's only possible if they do it at the right time.

I see a community as a child to the admin, I love children and am even supposed to use that scenario to create a community and take it as my child till when I get married in the next few years and get a biological child 😂.

Come on SK you are still young so you have time to catch the 100K.. it would be awesome to start the "We Don't Like Cheaters Community" a bit sooner. I still have a community in mind though.

That will be a very unique community that will even frustrate alot of cheaters because they won't get our support and this community can also make cheaters to stop cheating, yes when they realize we are doing well and also voting posts in a good way that attracts more subscribers they will have no option but to repent and start doing good just to join the moving train, some of them may even start confusing. At the end the ideal ones who repented will remain but some who pretend as if they have repented entirely will go back to their old sef. Maybe we can interview them before accepting them.

You should only watch K-drama (or romance) if the entire season is available and not just one episode.
So far no one paid me for being a mod. I believe it's time to stop.
Thanks for the wakeup call.

Hi, the person who created community should do his best to keep it up because it is his "baby", even if he has no Steem for prizes but the person can come along with comments. If the admin has no interest community will not live long.

Yes, that is what I mean. Commenting, supporting, promoting can be done even if you have no SP/Steem and what I don't understand is why that doesn't happen but also why the idiot who pays is treated badly.

Thanks for stopping by @wuddi

That is all work, you know people are lazy and would like to have easy life :)

Yes, it is. Sad but true you are right. ♥️🍀

That's the point but at this moment or then, the admin is just confused, he still needs more time to build himself in steemit, he hardly engage on other steemians posts and that's something he's supposed to do now instead of creating a community.

You and I know that life is a process.

Will see if a person will "grow up" :)

... in the next two days I will be celebrating my 1 year anniversary as a moderator in Steem for Pakistan community ..

Will you be celebrating, like, by sending us some SPs?


Note: Not comment part 2, this is a total different comment.

🤜☝🚀

No no no 😂😂. Relax is not a big party. I know you like parties 😊

Better SP than cake. Shall we go to the bioskop together?

Creating communities in general is something that I am not a fan of, that is why I wanted to tell my opinion about the communities in separate post because it is too much for a single comment.

Oh you aren't a fan of it, ok you can do the post for us to read and comment. Your post about it can also produce long comments from others 🤧.

We are waiting for your post. If it comest to creating a community it is as useful as creating an account is. How many unused or hardly used accounts does Steemint count? Does anyone know? It all depends on what you want or like if it comes to an account or community (officially a hive). Should a hive be shared, be for everyone? Does it harm anyone I use it my way? I paid for it or?

Okay MRr 71-year-old. You want to start a community before you leave? Seriously? What's the point if you leave?
Also, why should you invest your earnings in a community instead of investing it and make sure you have a pension for the next 30 years you have to foresee in your "salary"?

I find it nonsense to say the founder of a community should be rich to start one. You can start one for you or you can find a group likeminded and stick your heads together and your capital and run it but the question remains: why should you or why should I pay others, reward them? Shouldn't there be something in return?

What do you think @joslud?
I mean why should the owner of a community pay the members? It's what I do in a way by upvoting a group with more than 1 account but just like I said goodbye to Student & Steem I believe the time is also right to ask myself why I keep upvoting because it feels as if I am one of those rare species who still does out of habit.

Greeting to your granddaughter!

My opinion, I believe in the community as a need for the decentralization of the blockchain, to create groups of users with similar interests. I don't agree that the creator or administrator is the only one who paid.

The impression I have at present is that communities are becoming fossilized due to the amount of regulations.

I am clear that Steemit is a Social Network that generates dividends. A community where everyone invests and the profits are distributed equally.

I like Tipu's bonus system, which in some way challenges you to find good content and bet on it by voting for it. The system calculates the profits for that day and distributes it based on your work done. Although it is not a community, it does provide an incentive to continue curating content.

So in some way a community needs to incentivize its subscribers, one way is by granting a dividend by being able to vote on their content, which is another way. If the rules are agreed upon, that's fine by me. In addition to the others you've mentioned.

Personally, I have my standard for deciding what and who to vote for, I don't feel obligated to vote for everything and everyone.

I thought there was a time we all were able to send a tip to someone. What happened with that option?

If it comes to paying I like to put it the other way: should the moderators grow a community, pay for everything while it isn't theirs, they are not paid? Because that's the problem here. I don't mind saving for what is mine or what I set up for someone else or a group to upvote but no one pays me to be a moderator or ever did. Instead I am asked to pay for all costs.

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Indeed you have did a lot for me and my community, but I still remember I didn't say anything about sharing rewards for contest in the last contest, it can be the end for you both not for everyone.

Thanks for everything you did.

The problem is why you don't work for YOUR community. You did not even try for a week and that is very bad thing. Why? Because those crazy enough to be a member and post you let down. No comments, no support, not a friendly word and contests are hosted by others and while they do you don't stop by.
It's the same for the host of contests. If you host you should comment, and engage with the members.
Indeed that takes time but it isn't my job which you all seem to think.

👏👏👏

What can I add that you haven't already said? Sometimes silence that leads to reflection is the best answer.

For now, I try to figure out what exactly that "emoji" is you use.

Hands clapping..
Can't you see them?

No. I was wondering if these were oven gloves or something...(bad waffles) Thanks for letting me know.