So if a child is drawing it isn't drawing because whatever is on paper, on a wall or in sand is not made by the standards you set or are set for artists? That sounds a bit strange to me. Also who decides what an artist is? Some schools where people learn to draw by certain rules and if they draw or colour out of the lines it's not art.
Is it only art if students are the copy cats of Rembrandt or Van Gogh since that's what art school teach? A way to do it in the same way as the artist they named the school after.
If we do that if we write it's called: Plagiarism but if it comes to drawing and paintings it's a good thing.
@tezzmax and @grebmot what do you think? How about you @jiva34?
I hate this very debate so much. A lot of people believe Art is something anyone can do but let's just say we have people who are artists by hobby, and we have artists by circumstances and then professional visual Artists.
Just state the one you are and live by the tag.
#betterlife #drawing #comment
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What is the debate you hate? The topic is "drawing". There's no debate about being an artist. We can talk about the first drawings made by Adam or Eve or caveman. We can talk about the very first drawing we made or remember as a toddler.
I tell you something about what I did... I knew my father never paid attention and wanted to prove I was right. He always gave the same answer as I showed him something. So I drew something childish and ugly and said: Look Dad! He looked up and said: wow that's a great drawing.
I turned around and left the room and still feel the disappointment.
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Lol... I get you.
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I'm going to cheat and consult the dictionary.
"What is the definition of art?
Art is the expression of ideas and emotions through a physical medium, like painting, sculpture, film, dance, writing, photography, or theatre. If you love the creative process, maybe you'll devote your life to art."
It can also be questioned, "What is music?"
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But the question is: what is a drawing or more... say something about "drawing". You lately made a sphere (ball) so?
We start at kindergarten if not earlier and some have drawing lessons at school, other not. Drawing is as old as humans are, the pictures (cavemen), the little drawings (Chinese) the letters we write.. it's a way to communicate and who decides what looks good or not and who is an artist? If it comes to art it's a personal taste one that also comes with how we are raised or educated.
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I'm not in any way setting standards for any artist. There are different art styles and many styles created by artists themselves and I really appreciate that.
I'm just trying to say that if we try to see things on a smaller level, we can try to dislodge ourselves from our idea of what our subject is when drawing. Instead, we think of it in simple forms. Most artists start with simple shapes like cones, cylinders and cubes to develop whatever idea they have.
It doesn't matter what art style it is, if it's simplified it's easier to construct and convey your idea easily.
I don't know what art schools teach but I know they certainly don't encourage plagiarism.
That's what I think. I have tried simplifying and I can say it works. Because I know I wasn't that good in drawing.
I even see it when I learn other things. I try to simplify them before developing on the simple layers. Especially when I read.
I'm definitely not an expert and this is just what I wanted to share. A great day to you. Thanks again.
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Art schools (already in the old days) did teach everyone to draw/paint in the same way as the master did. The students even painted with the master the same painting and it was for sure not always made by the master himself.
Thanks for replying it's appreciated and a great weekend to you.
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Why exactly is it we talk about artists and not about "drawing"? I am so curious. It must be a very long time ago you were a child.
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No, I'm trying to explain why I said "Draw what you see, not what you think you see"
You see, this doesn't really apply to drawing imaginative ideas. No, I wasn't referring to that. Imagination comes from whoever's drawing at the moment and what ideas they wish to convey.
I was trying to say that in drawing realism, that is, in trying to get a realistic drawing of something, you draw what you see, not preconceived ideas of what your brain thinks it should look like.
Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
And about being a child, hmmmmm 😅
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