Suggestion on Curation Method

in hive-166405 •  4 years ago 

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Suggestion on Curation Method

Through thediarygame we have learned that randomly curating the users on steemit might leaving some users without any upvote at all on their post and this lead to dormant account as they feel no support on their content on steemit.
This is especially true for users who are not in the radars or in the list of the curators. With the suggestion of @steemcurator01 The Steemit Team here, I proposed some of the solutions I have in mind on this post and I hope for some feedback and improvement too.

Objectives:

  • Curators can reach every user in their regions without fail.
  • Curators can have better curation coverage and be more systematic in their curating works.
  • All users on steemit get a chance of getting support on their content if they are still active posting and engaging on steemit and make an effort to contribute to the growth of steem blockchain at a minimum, by commenting and engaging with other users.

Problems:

  • Curators only upvote the circles of users that are under their radar/in their personal list.

  • Those newcomers who don’t have any connection with the curators are left out and never get visited by the curators of regional community curation account.

  • This will lead to complaints of not getting support or the users going dormant as they are not getting any support on their post.

How to manage the curation process with large numbers

Proposed Solutions:

  1. Curators of Regional Community Account should prepare a list of users in their country on a spreadsheet, ideally on google sheet, so everyone can get access to this list.
  2. Or another way is to make a post(Curation List Post) about it on steemit and list out all the users on that post.

Make a post(Curation List Post) on steemit

I think the second option is more transparent so the whole Steem Community members also can see that curators of this Regional Community Account are really doing their best to serve and support each and everyone in the region.

Weekly update the list

I hope the Curators of Regional Account Community also update the list weekly and gets the newcomers list from the Newcomers Achievement Program too.
I will personally give you the list on the comment section of the post if you don't have the time to come and checking on the table that everyone who is Country Representative have access to.

Mutual agreement on curation guidelines

They should have this mutual agreement to stop curating when the voting power of the Regional Community Curator Account going below, say, 80% VP, to let the account recharge back to the maximum before starting curating again.

Curation in turn or based on systematic curation schedule

They should be curating in turn or have the schedule on who in turn will be curating for the particular day.
For example, on Monday, CR1 will be curating the list from the user on number 1 until where the VP is already at range 80% VP for that day, then CR1 will put the mark or comment on the comment section of this Curation List Post, by putting a comment like No1-No.30 Curated on 16/9/2020 by CR1.

Then the next CR2 will pick up from where the CR1 has left when it comes to her/his turn the next day.
So after the VP is already at the range they seem ready to curate again, for example now at 99% VP, and that this CR2 should curate from the No.30 pick up where the CR1 has left from the previous curation session until - No?(CR2 should stop where the VP is already at 80%)

This process repeats until they cover everyone in the list.
I think this strategy will minimize the chance of missing some users in their curation.

Country Representatives making sure everyone from their country inside the list

One of the Country Representatives responsibility is to make sure all active users and also newcomers coming from their country are listed on this Curation List Post.
Users who are not on the list also can mention their name to be listed if they see they are not on the list, as this list is transparent/posted on the steemit platform, maybe posted on STEEM POD Community
Steem Community could see the method of curation and how this community curation account being used by the Country Representative/Regional Curators.

Post have passed curation windows

Even if some of the posts have passed the curation windows, they will still get a chance to get upvotes on their active post if they are still actively posting on steemit. This will keep the retention rate high as users still have hope on their post will surely get visit as they have their name on the list.

Users complaining about not getting visit/upvote from steemcurator01.

Another problem I heard from the newcomers recruited by the Country Representative(CR) or steemit users is, they, newcomers, expected to get the same amount of earning as the CR had.
Do not promise moon and stars to your recruits or person that you introduce into steemit about they will guarantee getting the rewards on steemit the same amounts as you been getting, especially is you're CR for a long time now, and never promised or saying about they will also get the gigantic upvote from steemcurator01/The Steemit Team.

Please educate this newcomer or person that you introduce to steemit, that, the earning is not guaranteed the same as you are getting now on steemit because of many factors.
They have to learn how they can contribute to the growth of the Steem Blockchain and Steem Community as a whole as this will determine how much their earnings will look like.
If they just come on steemit to post then run and not even bother to contribute at least commenting on other posts or replying comment on their post, they should change their strategy and learn how Steem Community works.

Also if you notice, there are some changes on how steemcurator01 will be used now after the announcement made by The Steemit Team here https://steemit.com/the1000daysofsteem/@steemitblog/1000-days-of-steem-steemcurator-changes-and-news-for-south-america

I hope the proposed solution/suggestion is clear. Please let me know if you're still not clear about it, I will try my best to explain to you again.
If you have better solution please also share with us in the comment section.
Thank you.

To the attention of all appointed Country Representatives or Curators of Regional Community Curation Account:
Cameroon (@njiatanga), Ghana (@oppongk), Nigeria (@beautychicks, @focusnow), Uganda (@yohan2on), Argentina (@belenguerra, @fendit), Venezuela (@anasuleidy, @edlili24, @mariita52, @tocho2,@adeljose ), Bangladesh (@tarpan, @toufiq777), India (@neerajkr03, @rishabh99946, @sapwood), Indonesia (@anroja, @ernaerningsih, @radjasalman,@nazarul), Japan (@cryptokannon), Pakistan (@rashid001), Sri Lanka (@besticofinder, @randulakoralage), Russia (@knopka145,@filinpaul), Ukraine (@antorv, @olesia) and New Zealand (@kiwiscanfly), @girolamomarotta [Italy]

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Thank you for this @cryptokannon - it is most useful.

Hopefully all the Country Reps and Regional Curator accounts can follow a good methodology from this for ensuring fair and comprehensive curation for everyone.

The Steemit Team


I am new to steemit but I am a visionary with many expectations for the growth of steemit, I hope to be able to actively collaborate for this and I dream of becoming a regional representative of my country, Venezuela, for that I will work hard, congratulations for the work you do, greetings

I think your suggestions are great @cryptokannon. In this way, there will be more organized, and as you say, there are many users who lose motivation because precisely, they go unnoticed. In fact, I have been looking for people who are not on Newcomers' Community and I've found several accounts with very good content. This is great because it will increase the engagement of more users with #steemit.

Very good your proposal friend @. also we can put to consideration the % of the vote left to support a publication, example, if we consider the possibility that the CRx account is giving support in an average of 8% each vote, we will be able to cover up to 12 publications for each 100% of the vote of greater scale, being this "2% of the Voting Power", that is to say that we will cover 120 publications to distribute the votes until arriving at 80%. which would be satisfactory.

I hope my explanation has been understood to complement and support your proposal.

As I told you before, in our account @criollitos we made a survey of participants using the tag #Venezuela for the #TheDiaryGame and this was collected until that moment.

Lista de participantes Venezolanos

I can, without any problem, update this list in alphabetical order.

@adeljose I think 2% VP is too low for 250KSP community curator account as that will be only 0.07$ worth in steem. I think the ideal number is 20-30% per post.

@cryptokannon, I explain, for every vote we give at 100%, our VP goes down 2%, that is, if we give votes at 20% it would be 5 votes for every 100%, this is equivalent to 50 votes for every 20% range of Voting Power downloaded .

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Thanks for this @cryptokannon. It Isn't a bad idea at all, and I appreciate your settings.

Curators of Regional Community Account should prepare a list of users in their country on a spreadsheet, ideally on google sheet, so everyone can get access to this list.
Or another way is to make a post(Curation List Post) about it on steemit and list out all the users on that post.

Both can still be utilized. In a situation where there are double or multiple reps from a country, they can reach a compromise on how to go about it and have the list intact. Sure, there is gonna be a constant update, which is just normal.

As touching the voting power, we from Africa don't use our account less than 75% in most cases. That has been the rules we follow since we're given the @steemcurator04 account.

I only have one issue here.

If we really want to make sure every post is captured and voted, then we need to reduce our voting percentage on every post, and that would mean that some posts would receive less than 20 cents especially in a region with many steemians, putting many things into consideration. This might be the best approach to capture and retain the power to vote a wide range of posters before the account power runs below the stipulated percentage.

Also, I think the steemit team should groom a set of people that would monitor curation processes and checkmate the use of every account given to all-region. This will make all country reps use the account sincerely without being biased. It's important that we are called into order when certain things concerning curation are spotted. Only those given the mandate to do that would focus and follow every account diligently. So we should understand that in a country where there are no rules, there's no sin.

Also, I love the part where you mentioned the rotation of curation. The thing is; If every country reps working in the same region cooperate well, it would be easy and things would go well. I think this is an idea we might adopt going forward, though with a unanimous voice within our group.

It is certain that the problems listed in this post are truly true, and they can only be tackled if we all work towards staying positive.

This is my one cent opinion for now. I might come up with more later. Thanks, @cryptocannon for coming up with this.

Thanks for your input @beautychicks. In regard to your point below

If we really want to make sure every post is captured and voted, then we need to reduce our voting percentage on every post, and that would mean that some posts would receive less than 20 cents especially in a region with many steemians, putting many things into consideration. This might be the best approach to capture and retain the power to vote a wide range of posters before the account power runs below the stipulated percentage.

I think this depends on the mutual agreement between the curators on how much percentage VP they all agreed on.
If you all come into consensus that 0.20$ is a fair amount of upvote to everyone in the list regardless of how the content quality or other factors of the post look like, then go ahead with that.
Personally I think, the great post should be reward a little bit more.

Also, I think the steemit team should groom a set of people that would monitor curation processes and checkmate the use of every account given to all-region. This will make all country reps use the account sincerely without being biased. It's important that we are called into order when certain things concerning curation are spotted. Only those given the mandate to do that would focus and follow every account diligently. So we should understand that in a country where there are no rules, there's no sin.

This is a good suggestion too, but I think The Steemit Team did monitor the usage of all the community curator, just maybe they have no idea how they curating these users, is it randomly or just based on the curators' personal list/bias.

Also, I love the part where you mentioned the rotation of curation. The thing is; If every country reps working in the same region cooperate well, it would be easy and things would go well. I think this is an idea we might adopt going forward, though with a unanimous voice within our group.

yea I hope with this method everyone can work together or maybe have to work together to achieve the same goal. 😊

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100% agree. A much needed modification for the diary game. I love this second plan "another way is to make a post(Curation List Post) about it on steemit and list out all the users on that post." .. it will not miss anyone.. every one can see and respond..This will give votes for everyone and new comers will not leave the game.
and also I think it's better to have different lists country wise .. so CR's can check who is no the list.

  ·  4 years ago (edited)

Really wise suggestions, thank you @cryptokannon.
We need to understand first who receives a key from curator06 (2, 3, or 4 people), then we'll create a model of curation for Ukraine-Russia-Belarus.
If there will be 4 people (2 Ukrainians and 2 Russians), may be could devide the participant in a way to curate only our counry mates (Belarusian participants can be shared).
I am waiting for the answer from @steemcurator01, then we'll act.
For now, I'll just curate alexmove's list (tomorrow).

@olesia @knopka145 @filinpaul

The @steemcurator06 account should be managed and used by all four Country Representatives now - yourself and @olesia @knopka145 @filinpaul.

We hope also to recruit a Country Rep for Belarus as soon as a suitable person is found.

Thank you

Thank you, then we'll take @filinpaul into account, too.

Ок!

the second option seems the best solution.

Sure, we could do this.

Solution 2 looks good to me. We should be able to follow this and we will try to keep improving it with optimized process in the future.

Great initiative @cryptokannon, with this method it will be easier to catch all the quality content across the blockchain. Thanks very much, its helpful..

Very good suggestion and strategy. Thanks

This must be a very good strategy.

A complete explaination With useful suggestions very helpful ,
Thanks

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excellent ideas, it will be done in a more organized way and it will prevent new users from being demotivated; I also saw how some were left without votes in their publications and did not publish more to avoid this if working with the lists, all participants would be covered, I think the voting system is very good and the% would be very equitable and fair. Thank you @criptokannon!

Thank you @edlili24 I'm glad you like the idea too 😊

Very helpful, thank you.

this method can solve many problems that I have encountered, it seems appropriate to start it

nice information @cryptokannon. very helpful info to understand how the currator work and how they notice our post

i want your support kindly help me please.

  ·  4 years ago (edited)

Thank u @cryptokannon,

I am a newcomer here, I found you in the post from @fendit

I think a work should also have an insider, otherwise your post will be missed without being seen...

Why do some great steemits stop writing ??

After writing one, two and three articles that deserve an upvote, But their posts are still 0,XX.
So that it makes them tired of working...
consequently making great writers lazy to work.
They think, I write or not is the same...
Awards are only about who he is and not about what he displays...

Most of us experience this when taking part in diarygames...
The 300 words he wrote carefully, got no accolades at all...

one two and three times maybe they will be patient, but the next maybe they will feel unappreciated, and forgotten ...

I have a thought,

Can each country value at least $0.2 - $0-5, on each post per day, or their participation in the community ?


Congratulations friend (a) @cryptokannon, I have had the opportunity to read many of your publications in search of information to be able to collaborate in the growth of steemit, I see that you do a great job, I am new but I hope in the near future to be able to collaborate just like you, Regards.

Great idea given by you mam Thankyou so much as this is the best possible way for curation and now every engaged genius user will receive the fruit of their efforts....

@cryptokannon Newcomers can be helped by creating a new section for them so that every newcomer who posts a notification gets to know who is connected to this community.