THINGS ARE BUZZING - We want your input (#HIVE #REBRANDING)

in hive-175001 •  5 years ago 

It's no secret we have wanted to re-brand... For a while now.
Myself (@jarvie) and @asgarth have thought about it for well over a year.

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I will share why we've wanted to rebrand and how the @hiveio news impacts this... but most of all we'd like to hear our users' thoughts on recent happenings.


But first...

WHAT IS THE AIM OF OUR PROJECT...

The aim of our site/s is to be a place for content creators to share their work and to provide those users with lots of amazing features... including and in particular decentralized feature-sets.

The entry point for your decentralized world

We are working towards creating a place for full time content creators. Where users with large followings (sometimes millions) will want to bring their audience. We still have more features to come before we start bringing those types in. However in preparation we knew we'd want to have a name that works for a larger audience.


RE: DECENTRALIZATION

We want to operate in as much of decentralized environment as possible. That isn't just an economic thing... it relates to developers and extends to governance of course.

We as a community don't seem to have a confident understanding of what @justinsunsteemit has in mind with his heavily centralized access to tens of millions of tokens. Or what his view is on decentralization and blockchain operating principles.
p.s. Thanks @theycallmedan for the initiative to get users to write about: "What decentralization means to me"... We would have loved to see @justinsunsteemit respond to that post. But love seeing the rest of you write your own posts.

To me/us decentralization has a lot to do with dependencies and getting rid of dependencies that make our platform or YOUR experience too... well... "dependent" on the actions of others. It seems there is always impact by others but what decentralization seeks for is to limit it as best as it can. In many areas: like developers, decision makers, voters, economics and much more.

MORE BLOCKCHAIN INTEGRATION

Let's put it this way even if @hiveio hadn't been announced we would still be re-branding. Not just for the reasons above but because we are going to work with many chains.

You may be happy to know we have plans to support feature sets from other chains and even find ways to make other crypto communities excited about our platform.

FEATURES LIKE:
Tipping in many currencies, Connecting accounts, App communities, Patreon Like features, Token information on our wallet page for other tokens... just to name a few things.


"STEEM" (The Name) DOESN'T TEST WELL

"Steem" has always been hard word for non-steem fans. I feel like I've said this more than a few times to friends: "Steem with two EEs and not the gaming platform" (repeated a hundred times). A tiny fraction of our future user-base will know what Steem is (Or what Hive is) and so the URL will be even more confusing the more non blockchain users we bring to the site.


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ENTER HIVE

We are not going to make a site called "HivePeak.com" but we are indeed planning on Supporting the Hive chain. (Check our list of name finalists)

It is true, we have made assumptions... we assumed our users would want to use an interface based on Hive. So we have been proceeding on that. BUT... tell us... do you want this?

Let's take it a step back and have an up front question: Do you want an interface that operates on Hive?

How do you feel about Hive?
So far there have been many requests of us since the announcement yesterday. But give us your honest desire. We will do our best to make sure your comment is respected so that you can feel comfortable giving it on this particular post. We have seen that most of the app operators that we work with are moving and are happy to support our present needs for 3rd party integrations. (Yes we still have dependencies)
We are not even fully certain if staying on Steem will even be an option if we're being honest with you, you'll see below that there are certain things we need.

Getting a Hive based site up and running presents a lot of challenges specially in a short period of time (Friday) but we are focused and lots of other developers and projects are working round the clock to get systems running in time for us.

Just between us expect things to be a "Work in Progress" even by Friday.

WHAT WE NEED

  • We depend on a good API (One that also runs hivemind)
  • We have our own signing method with PeakLock however many of you would feel more comfortable with Keychain or SteemConnect... so those need to happen.
  • Users who have used SteemPeak to upload pictures shouldn't be effected but how will users who used Steemit in the past be impacted with images? The URLs should still work ... but for how long?

There are people working on all these issues and more.

So the focus will be getting things running and we know it will get completed bit by bit... there will be things we miss but you know us... you know that you can give us some feedback and we'll get to those things ASAP.

PEAKMONSTERS?

Another PeakProject is @peakmonsters... basically that has to run on whatever chain that @splinterlands decides. No decision making from us on that... we will go where they go and when they go.


WHAT HAPPENS TO STEEMPEAK.COM?

https://steempeak.com/ the URL will NOT run HIVE. It just doesn't make sense to run a site called STEEMpeak on a chain called HIVE.

Yes... We will continue to operate SteemPeak.com
Now the question for you all is "WILL YOU USE STEEMPEAK.COM?"
And if so why? Also will there be enough 3rd party support to keep it running. And for how long do you need access... we recognize all of our users are about to be holders of STEEM tokens and HIVE tokens and need a wallet interface for both.

If there isn't high demand or a lack of backend support for SteemPeak.com then we will of course re-evaluate. Again feel free to share your opinions and we'll make this post a place you won't get attacked in the comments for saying you want to continue to use steem.

NAME CHOICES

We have asked our users on DISCORD for name suggestions for about 13 days. I feel like it has prepared them for what's coming and maybe has been fun for them to make suggestions. We expressed our interest in retaining PEAK in our name but we haven't been tied to it... however we have several great options for PEAK.

We have also done a bunch of polling OUTSIDE of Steem users.
We feel like we have a solid name option that we're proceeding with.
BUT... again we don't want to assume to much so there's still the chance of changing and we'd like your feedback. But we think there is likely to be a pretty good consensus.
... so let us know which TWO options you'd go with and we'll see.

Here's what our poll looked like that we've done.

  • Peaksocial.com
  • Dpeak.io
  • Peak.network
  • Peakd.com
  • Peakapy.com
  • Steempeak.com
  • OTHER

SO MUCH MORE TO COME FOR PEAK PROJECTS

We are looking forward to the time when we start our marketing programs and focus on full time content creators and their users.
However, We want our present users to be happy about this switch as well.

Let us know... and feel confident that just like the last 2 years of never ending and totally consistent Updates we have so much up our sleeves you should be very excited about. All that and we haven't even started our marketing plans. (Prove retention first)


WITNESS?

This is where we'd normally say we're interested in your witness vote. We're not entirely sure how that will all shake out... we aren't even producing that many blocks on Steem anymore (for probably obvious reasons) so that is likely to switch to HIVE ... would you support us there?

Technically speaking we have TWO servers that run a witness (one is a backup even though we have rarely missed blocks in all our history) ... we are prepping the main server to make the switch and can worry about the other one later (there's plenty of other things that need to be done in the meantime) ... Thoughts from those that support our witness? Or maybe we're calling it "Hive Managers" or just "Block Producers" and we can leave weird words like "witness" behind?


YOUR QUESTION RECAP?

  • What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
  • What do you like about Hive?
  • If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
  • What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
  • What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
  • Any concerns you're having?

In the end we still have a bunch more features before we begin our large marketing push... by that time we hope that things will be much clearer as to what system will provide us with the most decentralized option for content posting. We need stability, a thriving App ecosystem, ease of use for development and our users and decentralization.

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  ·  5 years ago (edited)

I really like the Peakd.com one, not going to pick another, this is perfect. :) Like "Peakd my interest", lots of fun pun potential here.

You guys have a great product and we need you to be on Hive; period!

Yes

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agree 100%

Well said! !invest_vote Adding my own little perspective here https://steempeak.com/hive-175001/@andrepol/re-steempeak-q7hzf1

  • Hive for sure.
  • I hope it proves to be the better option for an independent, freedom-loving and sustainable community. Anyways, I am sure that Steemit Inc is not walking the right path, hence Hive is the choice of mine.
  • In my point of view, SteemPeak is the most advanced and user-friendly front end. However, it is just my pick.
  • It could be HivePeak, make the rebranding as simple as you can.
  • Yet again, Hive it is.
  • Splitting the community is not the best thing to do. Using two forks neither as the content should be unique and created for the chain. I wish we moved as a community, took the best of current Steem and built up our hives ;)

Splitting the community is not the best thing to do. Using two forks neither as the content should be unique and created for the chain. I wish we moved as a community, took the best of current Steem and built up our hives ;)

good point!

Well said!

A close second to Steem Peak might be Busy.org or maybe Partiko or something.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

Partiko is dead. I suggest you start using @esteem. more recent updates have improved that program greatly.

Good idea.

IN ALL CAPS AND BOLD: PLEASE OPERATE ON HIVE

What I like about Hive vs. Steem:

  • Hive does not have to trust that Steemit, Inc stake will not be used to vote on DPoS governance nor will be dumped on the open market (while Steem has already seen Stinc stake used to vote on DPoS governance and JSun has stated publicly he wants to dump Stinc stake on open market)
  • Hive has a large team of developers already committed to working on the chain and an inclusive approach that is yielding more community developers committing to work on the project daily; while Steem has no developers at all (even counting Tron developers, Tron chain is a Java implementation and to the best of my knowledge JSun and Tron team do not have any C++ developers who could work on Steem blockchain)
  • The Steem name has always been a terrible name from a branding / marketing standpoint with obvious confusion point RE Steam gaming platform
  • The purchase of Steemit Inc by Justin Sun has only added to negative connotations surrounding Steem naming, as JSun is "controversial" at best descriptor and a con man by nearly universal acclaim in the crypto space

2 URL choices: peaksocial.com would be my choice of the URLs presented to have some continuity with prior naming and branding. Not convinced it is the absolute best choice. Beesocial might be another suggestion, it has a nice ring and fits with Hive naming without directly aping it, although I see there are some other businesses with that name (though none directly in this space I think). beesocial.io is available, beesocial.com is for sale for relatively reasonable price ($4.7k)

I would prefer your witness to be on Hive. To be perfectly honest, anyone thinking of trying to support/use both chains is IMO doing a disservice to the community. Please anyone reading this, do not add value to the old Steem chain. Don't use it, don't run a witness for it, just dump your Steem tokens and leave JSun to play with his dumpster fire and worthless stake.

That is actually a pretty nice suggestion. Beesocial.com

Beesocial is a perfect name imo

Also, peaksocial.com is also for sale for a reasonable $3,495 USD.

Yes, it is a great name.

why? it has nothing to do with 'hive'. Branding should make sense. Not be something unrelated. New users won't get it and it's not going to work well at all.

I believe that they don't want a name which is to connected to any platform. Look at all the Steem domains / tools / dapps and the mass rebranding which is going on right now.

@steempeak is searching for a platform agnostic brand name. Because they:
-don't wish to go through rebranding again,
-plan to support multiple platforms.

Besides, I like the name 😀👍

Ps: Leah, it's nice talking to you after a long time.

beesocial has nothing to do with hive? Or were you referring to the suggestions in the post from steempeak like peaksocial. Obviously, beesocial has something to do with hive... bee... hive...

Beesocial.com is cool XD

HIVESOCIAL.COM
That makes a lot more sense.

why not use the name hive as part of the url name? if its going to be on the HIVE blockchain, you must be clear about that in the name. otherwise new users won't even get it.

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I love that beesocial.com thing!

Yes

Beesocial...!!!! It's the best 🤩

beesocial is fabulous. It works really well for Hive. Get's my vote.

And I agree with your point about not working with steem. It is toxic while associated with Sun

Your opinion has a lot of weight with me, @carlgnash. I was just trying to figure out what I was going to do with my Steem tokens and the rewards still coming in after Friday. I don't even know how to convert them to BTC or fiat ... but some advice would be welcome. Remember: a lot of us small creators don't have a clue on how to "dump," and nobody right now is about to just abandon money in the present distress.

standard disclaimer about financial advice, etc., applies - but in my own opinion, the value of the current Steem and SBD tokens is going to plummet after the hardfork happens. Quite a few Steem whales have publicly stated they will be selling off their Steem and moving to the Hive chain (@blocktrades being probably the most prominent, and he is one of the largest stakeholders on Steem). It isn't so much about abandoning money, as preserving the value that you worked so hard to get. Again, my own opinion, and I don't have a crystal ball - but I think Steem users who do nothing and just hold on to their Steem tokens are going to see the value of their Steem wallets crash to basically nothing over the next 3 months (the period of time it takes to power down a Steem account / 13 weeks).

As far as how to convert your Steem / SBD to bitcoin or fiat, you have to create an account at an exchange that lists Steem / SBD first (this will require KYC, usually the process involves both submitting your ID and a selfie). Once you have an account, then you deposit Steem at that exchange (transfer your Steem / SBD to the address the exchange gives you for the deposit, with the memo that the exchange gives you to direct it to your own account at that exchange). The exact process / buttons to press is going to vary some from exchange to exchange. You can find a list of exchanges that trade Steem here: https://coinranking.com/coin/fXGcu_EzDgP25+steem-steem/exchanges
I personally use bittrex.com .

Once you have your Steem / SBD on an exchange that lists Steem / SBD, you can trade it for bitcoin. From there you can decide if you want to keep it in bitcoin, or if you want fiat you can convert bitcoin to fiat. I don't believe there are any exchanges that allow a direct Steem to fiat trade without going through an intermediary step like bitcoin. Let me know if you have any specific questions about that process.

I get where you are coming from, and I really appreciate the info ... but just remember what it looks like from the perspective of those who are just learning about the ninja mined stake and what witnesses actually do and trying to keep up with what is going on. Steem just tripled in value -- a lot of small creators aren't going to see the danger of staying around under those conditions unless the benefits of Hive are made clear, because little is clear. I was a professional journalist, and it has still been hard for me to put all the pieces together -- but I do know how to ask questions, seek information, and evaluate sources because of that background ... and you, sir, proved to me that you had the best interest of new Steemians at heart exactly 367 days ago.

Well, guess I'm signing up on Bittrex ... been trying to pick a safe exchange for a minute, so it's about that time...

In as simple terms as possible: The two main value propositions of Steem are that it is a decentralized and censorship-resistant social media network. The current (old) Steem blockchain now is neither decentralized* nor censorship-resistant**, while Hive is.

For someone who doesn't care about a social media network being centralized or having censorship, Steem wasn't the place to begin with. You could always reach a wider audience and make more money on the mainstream social media networks. And for the people who do care about decentralization and censorship, they are going to drop Steem like a hot potato now.

*Steem is not decentralized now because Justin Sun is running at least 20 puppet witnesses (presumably even from a single server) to centralize the blockchain governance under his control and voting for them with the Steemit, Inc stake. The Steemit, Inc stake is removed from the Hive fork.

**Steem is not censorship-resistant now because the steemit.com front end is in fact currently censoring posts. They even added an external black list source in China that they can add posts to censor without even having to change the GITHUB code now.

This is the first time I have EVER gotten a clear, concise explanation. My tenure is just a few days over a year.

Oh well. Next year on this day, I'll have a year on Hive. Wherever the people I respect are going, I am going too, because I'm not into censorship and dictatorship either.

We need you on Hive.

Good news ... There will be a PEAK style site on Hive.

again, why the word "peak"? it doesn't make sense with 'hive' at all.

i liked your ideas from the start, and you did great job on this. you fup photogames because of it, but forgiven :D

i will be on steem for at least 13 weeks so having steempeak to use would be nice. i do feel i will move my regular activities to hive. people are creatures of habit and i have a habit of using whatevernamePeak so nice to hear you will be there.

Will support your block producer (not that my stake will matter a lot)

as for the name, did not read the comments to not be influenced, my first thought is other, but i have no idea what would that be 😀

Good point everyone that is moving to hive is still gonna be on steem for at least 13 weeks.

You created this giant masterpiece and the question for me is, did you get a fair share of development funds from the Steemit stake in the past? That should change on the Hive, it really should change.

  1. What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
    • You should really not be exclusive, but the HIVE should be your Hometown
  2. What do you like about Hive?
    • It's a natural evolution of STEEM, it had to come at some point anyway. JS abusing the development stake is now the reason, but it was time anyway.
  3. If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
    • I don't even understand that question
  4. What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
    • Dpeak.io & Peakd.com
  5. What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
    • Hive
  6. Any concerns you're having?
    • A big fat Ninja Stake killing STEEM prices since 2016

"Blockchain integration" BAT tipping from Brave browser maybe? 😁

Yes

Hi,

I'm not probably answering in the correct way to all of this, but I'm glad you're going to be on Hive. I'm hoping Hive can be the good new beginning, as Justin Sun's actions on Steem didn't do good. I'm hoping we can have similar and even better community on Hive, but far more decentralized that Steem actually ever was!

I have been using Steempeak (at least most of the time) for a good while now and I've been really happy with it. Anyone else would need to do something truly amazing to be better than you guys are. Steempeak has had many features which have made Steem much better to use and you've managed to fix many things that I didn't even realize to be wrong.

My choices for the URLs would be Peakd.com and Peaksocial.com, maybe something other too but I have no idea what it could be.

I could see you witnessing on Hive, you could probably run a witness on Steem too just if Justin Sun were to withdraw sockpuppet accounts, but changes can always be made. Right?

I'm mostly concerned about your re-branding. Because at worst, who knows if you'll go with something like dpeaksocialpeak.networkd 😉

Well written thoughts on the matter, thanks for sharing @apsu.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

My pick for a name would have been peak.net but as it's not available I vote for peak.network
Second choice peakd.com
I plan to migrate to Hive - I've long been hoping Steemit could restart.
Something I'm wondering - any predictions on what will happen to the value of Steem and Hive tokens?

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why use the word peak? I don't get it. It's not catchy either.
you need to have the word "hive" in it, that's a no brainer.
Hive is the cool idea, the people vs. tryrants, and please be smart about this. Hive should be part of the name or else you lose the game, the problem of "no consistent branding"

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I'm definitely for moving to Hive, I'll use Hive either way.
I like Peakd and peaksocial

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make it simple. stick with one chain, everything else is too confusing, steemit/steempeak is already super confusing for newcomers. makes sense to go with hive, ninja stake out, no chance of that stake being used to control the chain. that said a lot will depend on the workings of hive and if they can prevent a large stakeholder to control it. a lot of whales will be transferred there, so don't know how that will turn out.

as a side remark peakd does not work well in my language (dutch), a lot of people would be asking us that with a t or a d at the end. just saying..

well any hive only user most likely needs a steem interface for at least 13 weeks ... if you catch my drift.

I mean asking about a t or d is better than Steem vs Steam. haha

Being the greedy person I am I'd ideally love it if was a dual chain supported front and can even prove as to be the ideal go between for those who sit on both sides and not forcing users to choose.

I'd say Peaksocial.com would be the ideal name for me because we don't know where this will end up be it a full move to Hive as steem dies or a complete community split, perhaps even other chains wanting to leverage peaksocial in the future too.

Steempeak is by far the most polished front end why would I go anywhere else?

Split. Yes. Agreed. Good idea.

I have been unable to upload photos to Steempeak for my posts. It always gives me "network error." I hope this issue would be resolved if you'd be moving to Hive, as I like using your front end.

As for the name, I like Dpeak.io or Peakd.com. 😊😊

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What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
Hive. No question there.

What do you like about Hive?
Steem is getting hard-forked one way or another, if JS has his way. Hive looks like the fork that has investment and momentum. The name is a good nod to the communities-focused nature of the chain.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
The interface is nice. Admittedly I haven't branched out that far in trying others. Something always felt a little uncomfortable about how steemit branded itself in relation to steem, though I didn't know the depths of it... I just knew I wanted something that was stable, secure, and not steemit. What's the point of a dApp if everyone uses the official corporate endpoint anyways?

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
Of those listed, PeakSocial.com. I saw BeeSocial in the comments, I like that too.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
Hive. I spitefully want a bunch of witnesses to stay back on steem and fuck sun, but the health of the real blockchain takes priority.

Any concerns you're having?
I'm worried that a "watch and wait for stability" approach from some dApps switching over will lead to many lost posts from a user perspective. Worried about how onboarding new users and recovering accounts will work out, the new chain is necessary for the community to come together to solve such concerns but I'm not sure it's sufficient... and it might not be fast enough to avoid a significant upheaval. (Especially if the 30-day voting block applies to airdropped SBD.)

Lots in that post.

  1. What chain do you prefer us to operate on?: Right now I am thinking I will prefer to operate primarily on Hive.io

  2. What do you like about Hive? Difficult to answer that at this point, I do think I will like Hive, but until I walk through the door and see and feel the atmosphere of the place difficult to answer. I do like some of the concepts I have read, but we have all seen talk before sometimes with action, sometimes not.

  3. What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand? Freedompeak.com would be my first choice, but it does not seem to be available. the .io ending does seem to be available however. To be honest I am not thrilled with any of the names in your poll. As just a user, I am somewhat tired of the d this d that, and apy seems like a baby wipe name, sorry but I am older and apy endings just don't cut it with me. I would like to see a name that does allow for future expansion of your product, like how Netscape name was not an operating specific name nor product.

  4. What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?: I think at this point in time I would like to see it on Hive as it seems that is the chain I will be on mostly. As it stands right now I do not see a reason to stay on as a steem witness, the dead lock is there, it will be there for awhile unless the 10 or 9 witness in the top 20 all move over to Hive on Friday. I would actually like to see four of them stay as steem witness to keep things in limbo on steem block chain while hive gets established.

  5. Any concerns you're having?: Not really, it seems as if Hive was thought out quite well, I guess like most people we will find out over the weekend, and get a better feel for it.

I would like to say thank you for the smooth transition I had from steemit and steemit communities, you have earned my trust and respect for having such a small team you have all done a wonderful job not only on your product but on keeping your users updated and communicating with them.

Earning trust is the hard part but they did earn our trust.

I'm all in with Hive. One thing I wish though is not to have an upvote button but just a tip/donate button seeing that Taxation is Theft. Not sure If that's possible but that's My two cents. Hive Out....

I am not a fan of taxes. So, yeah, anything that might minimize taxes. And I like tipping. I would prefer both, the ability to tip or upvote. But I guess it partly comes down to whether or not there could be multiple reward pools for upvoting in order to allow for some competition and everything within the money aspect of it all.

  1. I want to be able to use SteemPeak (as it is/will be) on Hive. (Though in an ideal situation, those who wish to run on Steem would be able to do that as well - like a on/off switch.)
  2. I like that Hive won't be SteemTron anymore. Steem was good. SteemTron is scary.
  3. I love the Steempeak front-end. I love having my templates, my scheduler and all the other wonderful features you've developed over the months. I plan to stay on this front end (whether it's called Steempeak or anything else) until I'm no longer able/willing to blog on the blockchains.
  4. Dpeak is my favorite. Peaksocial is my second. Peakd sounds like a has-been.
  5. Hive
  6. I just want to see a smooth transition with people able/willing to fix problems as they arise (as is usual for you guys!)

Great ideas Lori!

Thanks! Good to hear from you!

How have you been doing?

Well enough. Snow tonight again.
How about you?

I’m fucking scared is what but I keep it in check!
Cool as a cute over here!

Boost your immune system and hope for the best. That's what I tell my hubby who is also shaking in his boots about this. And remember the vast majority of cases are mild - just like regular flu.

My main worry is that my son will be prevented from flying to see us in May... from the UK. (So he can't exactly drive instead.) Or maybe that worry gets me past any other worries...

I would love steempeak to support hive, I myself will be using hive over steem.
What I like about hive is it's potential to fix the issue with steem sooner rather than later, this deadlock with justin could last forever in which no development can be done.
I like peak.network and peaksocial.com
I also would support your witness on hive as well.

Exactly

Regarding Hive, I am glad the witnesses decided to do a clean fork with a new chain ID.

I think both projects will take a big hit, and I am sad this all happened, but expect it will be okay long term.

I don't think Steem is dead, both projects just became more high risk.

Regarding your branding, I hate to say it... But the options sound a bit pornish.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

LOL - your mind is always in the gutter - I didn't even think of that myself!

I do think Steem is on it's knees making groaning noises, and the only way I can see any of my friends coming back is a new platform with a new name that works better than Steemit - if this plays out I will jump to Hive in the blink of an eye.

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To close to PEEK?

Exactly!

A Hive is a centralised hierarchic system where the worker drones feed a fat queen. It is literally the opposite of decentralisation - however, it seems those with the loudest mouths would rather tell me to shut up than listen. Oh well - how ironic and sad. As far as the steempeak name goes, I don't think steem 'anything' is likely to work if hive is successful. I don't really know what the meaning or value of 'peak' is, other than 'being at the top' - which is again a centralised reference and not a decentralised one (in terms of hierarchy).

I feel similar about the Hive name and made a post about it and went on their discord to discuss and it seems they decided without us in secret.

We could campaign to have it changed in the future, but, that has potential problems and drawbacks as well. Pretty frustrating to me as someone who loves language and decentralization so much...

Basically, yes. I don't mind that developers go off and fork in private, but when the response to feedback on a pretty serious aspect of the process is "don't be so negative", "you are complaining just for the sake of complaining" and "the name is meaningless" - I feel pretty sad for the state of the 'community' and it's voices. It's particularly frustrating to be met with a wall of obvious unconsciousness and denial in the form of people claiming that someone with input is being 'negative' just for dissenting when it is obviously them who is negatively rejecting other voices.
I am not interested in begging and pleading with anyone for any reason. People make their choices and get their result.

Agreed. I think anyone should be able to fork and do their own thing, however, when they tout community as their main strength and then leave the broader community out of such important decisions and decide in a secret sort of way like that just feels a bit off.

And yeah... I was being told similar things as you, and I was being totally peaceful and calm an d respectful and they were saying similar stuff. Very strange energy indeed. Felt like they just want their project and don't want any criticism.

Well said at the end there. I concur and I'm glad to see I wasn't alone in my sentiments about trying to suggest an alternative name. I think this could have been so much more amazing if we had a name more in line with freedom, or love or life or so many other things besides "Hive".

shrug oh well.

Yes, absolutely. I think part of the issue is that they want to get it all done at high speed and the name has been decided as being a low priority and something that people can argue over for days. I do get where they are coming from to some extent, it's just a problem for me that marketing strategy is being over simplified. On top of the name issue there's also the reality that over-centralisation, ignoring the community and poor marketing are precisely the main problems that we all hated about steemit inc. and yet here were are facing essentially the same thing from day one from the community themselves. history repeats when lessons are not being learned.

Yeah, I think so too... And I can also get where they are coming from to an extent. But, I also highly agree with everything else you said, well said.

That's exactly how I've been feeling, and it's almost like it's a little worse in some ways because at least we would sort of expect this kind of behavior from steemit inc or Justin, but, our own community who I thought were suppose to be significantly anarchist/libertarian?

I thought this place was much more focused on individual freedom and when they picked a name like Hive which to me more often means the opposite of that and then they did it in secret and passed it sort of like the Patriot Act and then in their official blog post mentioned they weren't going to airdrop some people based on their political position and what they said about centralization, it's just like... Wow... What happened? I thought we were on a similar page and now they're doing some really sketchy questionable stuff all of a sudden... I hope things calm down in time, yet, either way this is now history and this new chain was birthed in secret by a smaller centralized group instead of out in the open by the broader community... :\

It's not the best start, I agree. A few people in the Hive discord stated that they are not anarchists in any sense - so it seems that may be part of the issue. There will probably always be people who actually do value liberty who will be willing to continue Steem's codebase on - however, as many people have stated (including me) 'anarcho capitalism is not anarchy' and for me, this just reinforces the reality here.

But had they listened, then you would have been that peak.

Not sure what you mean?

When I say peak, I mean like the leader. I was replying to what you said about your feelings about the Hive name on Discord. I guess what I was trying to say was partly a joke.

I thought maybe that's what you meant and it didn't make sense to me cause I was arguing for the community to pick the name, not me. Why would I be the peak if I'm asking for the community to do it and not me? No. I wasn't trying to be any kind of leader, I genuinely didn't think the name was a good fit for freedom and I thought a much better choice would be to let the community decide. I think that would be awesome if we all could have decided together as a group.

Hi there

I've been reading through many comments related to new hive chain and I've seen your comment too. Many users are being torn, however majority seem to be moving to new hive.

Are you fully moving there or will you stay on both chains? Just curious. I'm trying to figure out what to do myself.

I see. And yeah, it's a very divisive thing.
To answer your question, I'm mostly moving to Hive.
I don't intend to post much on steemit anymore, the main reason for this is because I heard some hive people talking and saying stuff like they would consider people who still post here as traitors and might try to deny them rewards on hive cause they don't want people supporting their competitors, and... Steemit also has been censoring more and getting worse, so... As sad as it is, I am allowing those threats to influence my decision, however, I think steem might still end up being the winner in the long run since they have so much more money, my plan is to sort of just see what happens. I'm not going to cash out right away, but, I might if the value goes up. And for the time being I'm just going to post on Hive, unless something changes.

I run the IFC, so I will keep posting that here on steem as well for any players who might not move over, but, mostly just going to post on Hive. Good luck figuring out what you're going to do!

Oh. My bad. You were asking for a poll, for a vote for their favorite names to choose from.

If you think of it as a hive as in hive mind, that is a decentralised community working together in harmony...

a hive mind is not decentralised in my mind - it is a centralised, homogenous blob.
borg

I meant in nature, not in science fiction. I also choose to focus on the positives, but you seem fixated on the potential negatives of a word.

Positivity is mechanically integrative and includes the negative too. 'Positive thinking' is a problem if it includes denials. As a professional digital marketer and systems engineer, I know I need to think of all angles when it comes thinking of a symbol to be used to represent a brand. Blocking out problems with a word will not stop the brand losing optimal placement.

You are probably right. I still think you are over thinking it though. Either way, it will be interesting to watch what happens.

I like hives and I like the idea of working together. I believe in decentralization and centralization, long story. It is very complex as the world has both simultaneously and that is a balance, a mechanism that goes back and forth. It is somewhat impossible for humans to actually have one without the other apart from hypothetical theories and temporary moments in history.

i am not sure how much you know about bees but you are wrong, and missed it by a lot.
Drones are the only fat ones in the hive and they either die after mating or get cast out when winter comes.
queen bee is hard working. all her life is dedicated to making more bees for the hive, and would not survive on her own.
The colony relies on each other for everything within one another individual bees (workers, drones, and queens) wouldn't be able to survive. The whole colony is also needed to reproduce. The colony of a bee is a well-oiled machine working together to survive.
If you would like to pick one bad thing in this than that would be swarming. But i doubt it Hive will ever become to big so it has to swarm.

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Queen honey bees are created when worker bees feed a single female larvae an exclusive diet of a food called "royal jelly".[59][62] Queens are produced in oversized cells and develop in only 16 days; they differ in physiology, morphology, and behavior from worker bees. In addition to the greater size of the queen, she has a functional set of ovaries, and a spermatheca, which stores and maintains sperm after she has mated.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_bee

bees operate on programs/imprints and face problems from the group if their behaviour 'dissents' and challenges the queen's reproductive dominance. bees have been used as a symbol of royalty since ancient egyptian times - the 'queen of england' wore a bee gown at her coronation. bees and hives are absolutely a symbol of centralisation and hierarchy. i am confused as to why anyone things anything different and as yet no-one has provided any evidence to the contrary of my position.

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Many people assume that the queen controls everything. She doesn't. The only thing she actually controls is reproduction. Queens create a chemical called queen substance or queen pheromone. The retinue of worker bees that feed her spread this queen substance around to the other workers in the hive, and as long as there is enough of it, none of the workers' ovaries develop. In addition to this, the queen internally controls whether an egg is fertilized (is female) or unfertilized (is male).

Externally its a different matter. Workers actually control whether or not the queen lays fertilized or unfertilized eggs by the size of the cells they build. Smaller cells induce the queen to lay fertilized eggs, larger cells are a cue to lay unfertilized eggs. Queen cups also induce a queen to lay fertilized eggs, which are created by workers when the levels or queen substance produced by the queen become too low (usually when either the queen is getting too old, or when the hive gets too big.)

or, workers decide when to change the queen bee

I appreciate that bees work together, yes. However, they do not embody independence or variation per se - they are centralised by definition.
I personally am less interested here in the biological mechanics of inter-bee relationships, than I am in the public perception of the new blockchain. Symbols have different meanings to different people. It's clear that some people just think of 'busy bees' and 'doing work' when they think of bees and hives - however, many people think of homogenous, lockstep hierarchy and 'classes' of people - a hivemind. Orwell's 1984 is the classic example of groupthink and this kind of issue in humanity. I find it actually quite disturbing that this isn't obvious to more people here considering that most people I usually speak with are on the same page as me.

i understand what you are talking about, but we don't have a hivemind in our language. not sure for other languages but i know 3 that don't use that. so maybe that is why it is not my first association.

maybe we should use this to educate people of bees and importance of them in the world 😁. For example i assume that a lot of people know how shitty the world would be without bee hives.

Hehe. Well, increased care for bees would certainly be a good thing, however, given that Wifi networks are causing bees serious problems it seems a bit of a hard task to suggest that a wifi powered social network is going to help real bees!

Dang dropping some knowledge on us!

I like what you're saying about bees and I'm a fan of hierarchy as opposed to hypothetical anarchy which is only theoretical. I believe in decentralization and centralization at the same time. I believe in the balancing act between extremes. I am not against hierarchy but some people are against it. But one of the problems is when hierarchy government is infiltrated by globalists and others. People can do bad. So, centralized hierarchy can mess things up. But no hierarchy can also screw with things as well. To some extent and in some ways, a blockchain can be a decentralized system that is somewhat enforced by a centralized code, the blockchain, which either is or should allow for modification via decentralized voting, you know, the users, the witnesses. Generally, I do promote anarchy and decentralization in order to minimize and counter tyrannical authoritarianism, globalism, tech cartels, fascists, etc, etc.

it is like trying to get the best from both sides. we are still not there, maybe we will maybe not, who knows. all of this is just one real life experiment.

Agreed

Honey bee
A honey bee (also spelled honeybee) is a eusocial flying insect within the genus Apis of the bee clade, all native to Eurasia but spread to four other continents by human beings. They are known for construction of perennial, colonial nests from wax, for the large size of their colonies, and for their surplus production and storage of honey, distinguishing their hives as a prized foraging target of many animals, including honey badgers, bears and human hunter-gatherers. In the early 21st century, only seven species of honey bee are recognized, with a total of 44 subspecies, though historically seven to eleven species are recognized. The best known honey bee is the western honey bee which has been domesticated for honey production and crop pollination; modern humans also value the wax for candlemaking, soapmaking, lip balms, and other crafts.

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The name "hive" certainly wouldn't have been my first choice (hivemind) - it reminds me of "submit" a word with much deeper intent than people realise.

But bugger it, if it's going to be called hive, so be it, maybe it could still work better than steemit, and I can't wait to make a new start.

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I think that having multi-chain operation is probably the easiest solution, with options for choosing where things post (e.g. a dialog box) before publication.

Hive looks really great, and I'm excited to see the decentralization brought closer to fruition with some honest safeguards. Still not perfect, but it's a great step better than Steem with its known flaws.

I could see staying on Steempeak, but honestly I wouldn't prefer it over a new thing.

My two URL choices that seem obvious: peak.network has great appeal across the board, with anyone getting exactly what the point of the idea is. dpeak.io is also interesting, though I think it could be offputting to people who don't understand the ecosystem already.

I like the idea of Steem keeping its principled witnesses, but I don't think that's possible for a number of reasons. If you switch to Hive, I'll go with y'all.

Good to hear you are moving away from blockchain related branding. You never know with hf's. Looking forward to using DPeak soon on Hive. 🙃🙃

HIVE is a good name !
I am in!
I support the move ,see you on the other side !

I am also curious to see what others will do.

If I were to choose a name from the list, I would go with #1 peak.network, #2 peaksocial.com. Dapps Dnames are silly IMHO.

Anyway, great work as always. Looking forward to the migration.

Hive
Peak.network

Peaksocial, for sure, on Hive ✌🏼

SteemPeak is number one for me. I would like it to continue.
If you choose a new name, I like the first and second variant.

  • Hive
  • the promise of decentralization, censorship resistance and down the road, less fake news.
  • Exactly why
  • I don’t like them, how about Peakaboo.io or PeakNow.com, think about it, do your names have any appeal to the Chinese market? Peakapi scores best in that respect. DPeak sounds too sexual.
  • Hive
  • A happy camper

I am really thankful for you taking the time to write this post, I think decentralized social media empowered to reward content creators with digital money is more important than ever. The only virus I’ll catch here is... never mind!

I concur with many of the comments below. Steempeak is the primary interface to the blockchain that many have adopted. I think we need to have you on Hive as the defacto entry point. Peaksocial.com is probably one of the better choices, in my mind but that beesocial certainly could work as well as a url. Lots of decisions to make for all of us, let alone have business factors to contend with in the mix. I'm hoping you decide to support and run on Hive.

I'm going hive all the way. Fuck steem. I vote for moving your witness to Hive and letting steem fail. Names: Dpeak.io! If I had to vote a second I'd say Peaksocial.com, but Dpeak.io is the best by far.

Can't wait to see you guys on the new chain! :)

I would prefer you operate on Hive and I would vote for your witness there. It may not be worth putting any more effort into Steem but I'd like to take a wait and see attitude. My guess is that the sock puppets will take over at some point. Even if they don't, having a blockchain that is provably unsafe would not give a warm and fuzzy feeling to most investors that have a technological background imho.

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So far there have been many requests of us since the announcement yesterday. But give us your honest desire.

I think I will go with Dfropeak.io or something around the lines of FrizzyPeak.network or StickyPeak.com for your URL re-brand.

And if you pick any of those curly names, you can swear I'll support your Witness, Hive Manager, Block Producer or whatevah you end up calling them out there. };)

You are doing really great work and for all my needs is also my preferred interface, and I think that you should work on both chains, and since you stated that your goal is to work on even more chains I also think that this would be the optimal first step to make that work, it's now that you can create the tools necessary to work on many chains with the same interface, and since you also have the best knowledge about both Steem and the coming Hive it's the easiest to start with.

I also run a project called @thisisawesome which basically is dependent on the features that your interface provides, using another interface can be done but that will more or less double the time I have to spend on it.

When it comes to the name, and keeping in mind that it should be chain neutral, I think it would be great to focus on the users, so my suggestion is,

PeakMe.com

If it's available of course.

Ah, so you are the person behind @thisisawesome -- a pleasure to able to say thank you, @flaxz, in person!

Hi there @deeanndmathews, yep that's me, I do have a few moderators too, but the Freewrite I do myself, stay awesome I like your writing.

For sure, that action was unacceptable. Ned had been working badly for over a year.

If he wanted to sell Steemit and leave, he should have burnt the pre-mined steem before, and sold only the company. By selling the pre-mined steem, he was selling the control of the network.

If Justin wanted the company and not take control of the network, just after the buying he should have burned the steem himself.

The end was him articulating with exchanges into powering up their customers' steem to take even more control on the network! And claim the community was a bunch of thieves!

yes api node needed, but i guess we figure out a node from the network connection we see in 2 days on hive.blog ... get_feed of both condenser and follow api is not workin and steempeak and esteem somehow solved it notsure how... please update API documentation i have no idea how to broadcast an operation (like vote) from the API docs since example is not working and does not explain refference block.... ive been either ghosted about the broadcast question or told they dont kno :/

Aloha Steempeak!
I have a proposal for renaming Steempeak.

BLOGCHAIN.com

Maybe you like it.

Maybe

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

For the time being, I'd like to see Steempeak on both chains. By doing that, I will be able to use my platform of choice, regardless of what will happen with Steem or Hive.

What do you like about Hive?

I love all the hype around it! Steem has been through a dull period during the past half-year, at least not interesting enough for me to get back to it. It's totally by accident that I returned here during the Justin Sun debacle. I mostly came back due to the COVID-19 virus and because I wanted to see how far Steem came since my last visit. Unfortunately, all the news I received was awful. In these dark times, it's quite pleasant to see something positive happening again. This way we can finally leave the ninja-mined stake, that has been dragging Steem down since forever, behind us, and start over with a clean slate.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

I haven't decided yet where I want to go. It still feels a little like we're robbing Justin by forking his funds out of the new chain. I do understand that this is the only way forward since Justin is not willing to make any concessions, but that doesn't take away the feeling that we're practically deleting his funds from existence. As long as that feeling stays with me, you'll find me on SteemPeak.com, because that's just the best front-end available for the Steem blockchain.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

If the goal is to onboard new users outside the blockchain circle, I think peak.network would be our best bet from the given choices. My second choice would be to take some extra time and see if we, or the people outside of Steem, can come up with something better, potentially not involving peak.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

For now, all I want to see is a full hype train. Therefore, I'd love to see your witness node running the Hive blockchain. That's our best bet for bringing some positivity back into our community.

Any concerns you're having?

Whatever happens, I sincerely hope that SteemPeak won't suffer too much if this fork doesn't turn out the way we hope it does. I hope you've got a back-up plan ready for when whatever you decide turns out to be the wrong choice because the last thing I want to see is SteemPeak in trouble.

I would like to see you guys migrate over, imho this site is unmatched in its design and flow. I just started using this site about a month and I was angry i hadn't found it sooner, now i am a daily user. I don't trust Steemit in the hands of Justin not with all of his pumping and dumping schemes and his slipperiness. I see Hive as a new way forward, there always seemed to be something holding Steemit back and as an outsider looking in I had no idea that devs were being held back from devoloping steemit to its full potential. Now i feel all of the pent up creation will explode into something beautiful, this move has revitalized the community and brought exposure that we never seen before, and hive was able to get listed quickly on exchanges.

Hive Peak is an actual mountain range in in Spain..js, I like Peakaby and Peakd.

I would like to see your witness on the hive blockchain and I would also vote for it again if votes are not carried.

SteemPeak imho is very important to the community and I just adore this site, so please come with us. I dont care how long it takes and I will support SteemPeak in the meantime.

  • Joziah Thayer Founder of WEDA - Twitter @ Dapeaple
  • I'm going all-in on HIVE. Steam (damn autocorrect) is gonna die for me on Friday).
  • I like Hive's open communications and exciting Buzz. I feel a sense of ownership.
  • Not gonna stay after powerdown completed.
  • peakd.com & peaksocial.com
  • hive (steem will stay proxied for me)
  • only for the people's sanity how are dwelling on Steem

Thank you for your welcomed and quality services. I hope you well in future endeavors and godspeed.

Ps keep the logo the subtle hint to origin is cool.

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Long live Hive-Peak

Thanks for taking a thoughtful approach to your future operations.

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

Hive I guess. It is going to need some familiar apps to help it gain traction.

What do you like about Hive?

Its potential, and at this point that is all anyone can truthfully say.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

I am a new user of your service, so again I like its potential.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

Based upon your vision as outlined of what you hope to become then PeakSocial.com is the most promising. The other options listed seem contrived and gimmicky that will not age well.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

First of all, I don't like the term "Witness" for the functions that one performs. A better generic term would be "Advocate". But to answer your question directly; if Hive is your home base then on Hive you should advocate for the community.

First off, we need you on HIVE! @steempeak has been by far the best interface for accessing the Steem blockchain and I'd really like to see you be the "flagship" front end for HIVE.

Why? Because now that we're really going to have a decentralized community, more people will be putting sweat equity into promoting HIVE to the outside world... and the most suitable entry point for non-techie social content users would be a re-branded Steempeak.

So let's talk about the NAME. At first, the inclination is to include the "Hive" name... but WHY? Maybe the best name out of the suggested batch is actually "PeakSocial," because it says what it's about ("social"), and it's readily scalable/transferable. As "Peak Social" you can still continue to serve Steem if you wanted, and HIVE, and if some other blockchain social project came along, you could serve them.

Think of PeakSocial as a "wrapper" for many potential things. Maybe even customized/customizable front ends for some new version of SCOT tribes?

But if you wanted to include HIVE in the name, my second choice would be (not listed) "HiveSocial" which again has a high level of "self-explanatory."

What do I like about HIVE? For starters, I like the name. The last "social web experiment" I really liked was now-defunct Tribe.net. Names like "Tribe" and "Hive" have great self-explanatory marketing ooomph. "Hive" is the sort of name that's competitive with "Facebook;" it doesn't sound silly. "Steem" was always a weird name. What else I like about HIVE is that it represents a sort of "landmark case" of the power of community consensus decentralization... if what we're doing here actually works, it will set a precedent that this kind of structure IS, in fact, capable of standing up to challenges from "the establishment."

Do I want to stay on Steempeak? Well.. to the limited extent I will still be part of Steem (I plan to keep my account marginally active to occasionally come back and make a pitch for HIVE) I hope to still use the interface... but I'm not attached to that. Do I want you to stay with Steem? Not my call. I hope you make HIVE your home base.

As for your witness, I would strongly suggest HIVE. Seems we've already seen that JS does want to be part of governance, at least when it suite him. I would submit that running a witness on HIVE makes a lot more sense, even if it involves rebuilding to some degree.

Anyway, I'm totally with @kus-knee in agreeing that you have a GREAT PRODUCT.

Witnesses should be re-branded to capitalise on the fact they're actually human. Fleshpuppets
And since we've 'nicked off' from Steem, the new site shoud be Peak-nickers.
You guys are so lucky to have my help.

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Great update post, given all that is going on @steempeak / @jarvie. You have long had the best UI for the Steem blockchain by far and I’m sure there is a great sigh of relief across the “Steemisphere” that you are making the effort for us to be able to continue using our favorite UI once the “big move” to Hive is in the rearview mirror.

My requested input:

  • I prefer you operate primarily on Hive, but give us a little time to “fade out” on Steem (see below).

  • The promise of greater decentralization and associated benefits. Whether that is reality remains to be seen, as I have my reservations …

  • While I imagine long term I will be moving away from the Steem blockchain altogether, I would still like to have access to SteemPeak for a time. Kind of a “fade out” is what I envision, but hard to say right now. I think everyone would understand if SteemPeak did something similar, i.e. kindly support us for a bit, but with some advance notice, begin a “fade out” of your own …

  • From the list you have provided, my name choices would be 1) Peaksocial.com and 2) Peak.network, but why not combine them into PeakSocial.network? If so, is Social_Peak.Network better still?

  • If you continue to be a Witness, I will be supporting you with the + 22.4 MVests under my control. On Hive for sure, as that is primarily where I expect to spend my future time. On Steem, too, if it benefits you somehow. I will support your Witness wherever it is.

  • Not a concern really, but just to clearly state my preference for using the KeyChain / SteemPeak SocialPeak.network combo, i.e. I hope KeyChain gets ported across!

  • Wish list (I know you didn't ask, but ... ), a really good mobile version for our smart phones!

“See” you soon, on the other side of the big move to Hive! 👋

🐝 🍯 🐝

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

Thanks for being on top of this. It's understandable that app developers will want to rebrand to a name not tied to a particular platform.

I'm going to Hive, because developers and users will be more motivated to contribute to the platform when it isn't dominated by one company anymore.

As for the names, I like Peak.network. And if I have to choose a second one Peaksocial.com.

My concerns are as you said, what happens to the images hosted on Steemit? It should be possible to rehost them automatically while they're still online, but it won't be easy. Will our passwords be safe if they've been used on Steemit? I would change them to be on the safe side. And what is Steemconnect going to do? They're an essential service, but they're not very communicative.

Update: Steemconnect is taken over by eSteem and will migrate as HiveSigner.

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
The one with the most stable node 😉
I honestly think a lot of people will hop between steem & hive in the first coming months. A lot will depend on where is the most financial value to obtain. Don't get me wrong, I'm pro decentralisation and completely against centralized power (be it online or in real live)... but I'm also a realist. I love the hype and enthousiasm for hive... but in my experience a lot of people are ready to drop their principles as soon as it costs something...

What do you like about Hive?
Right now, uh...well, the idea behind it as it is the only visible thing right now.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
Yes, I want. Reasons: interface, quality of images, functionalities and...service when something goes wrong! 😂 You guys rock!

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
Hm, a difficult one...
I go for the first 2 but in different order:

  1. Dpeak.io (short, strong, modern... at the peak 😉)
  2. Peaksocial.com

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
Up to you guys...I'll follow...

Any concerns you're having?
A lot!!! But not with steampeak 😜

Agreed

bhive.xx
behive.xx
beehive.xx
Is it too crazy the option to publish in both chains or in one of them?

I still have not used your site, yet have considered it unlike any of the other alternate Steem apps. Hive will need a main interface, and I'm a little surprised they haven't contacted you to be that interface based on the rep you have built here that far exceeds any of the others (imo).

I believe this chain will be transformed beyond recognition due to the war taking place and the ultimate end result which will be the forced migration to Tron. Hoping you will have your witness on the new chain, and be one of the pioneers in making history in the crypto world on the power of a real community.

Do you want an interface that operates on Hive?

Yes. Please. I'm so hyped :)
Good luck!

What do you like about Hive?

I'm not sure I understand what will change besides no more ninja, but overall I like change and progress / innovation, so I want to see how it grows :)

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

I would choose Dpeak.io because it's "smooth", and Peakapy.com because it sounds so funny and like a cute place.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

Hive.

Thanks for being so great :)

What @kus-knee said.

I do know nothing about Hive yet so I cannot say anything about it.
I use you for scheduling because I have no other options but have a very hard time loading the site.
I wish with younit's possible to post everywhere not only hive or whatever you choose.
Peaksocial.com and peak.network would be great names.
If you explain the support way I know what you mean by it. Thank you. 💕

IMO it would be great to have such platform jn both chains, there will things that i would like on both ends, I dont want to leave steem just because justin and the witnesess couldnt agree on something, the monent I leave steem is when it doesnt work for me and my friends anymore but until now its not the case so it will be great to continue using steempeak keep up the good job awesome platform

Operate on Hive. Witness on Hive.

Why? Steem is dead. Long live Steem. Hive.

Call yourself "Peakness" 👍

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Hey and thanks for your continued effort to bring us the best interface for the blockchain! I would love to see you guys operate on Hive as well. I have really gotten used to the many cool and very useful features that you provide and I don't know if they will be available on the official site. That being said, I would continue using steempeak as well as I intend to wait and see how things are going with Steem. If it's going downhill, I will stop using it of course, but just maybe they will try to build it up differently (not that I have much hope).

You wouldn't want to go with something that has hive in the URL? If not, then these would be my 2 choices.

Dpeak.io
Peak.network

Hiveit? :D

Would be great to see you guys running a witness over at hive :)

Exactly

Steem for a While. Full on Hive. The Peak Network sounds cool, anything with dpeak or peakd sounds a bit silly imo.

Hi there

I've been reading through many comments related to new hive chain and I've seen your comment too. Many users are being torn, however majority seem to be moving to new hive.

Are you fully moving there or will you stay on both chains? Just curious. I'm trying to figure out what to do myself.

I probably juggle both sides.

Big Thx for your reply. I think i will stick around on both chains for time being.

I also figured that you may find this post interesting and worth your time:
https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/project-hope-curation-trail-on-both-chains-steem-and-new-hive

It's post published by good friend of mine and I'm helping him to promote their curation trail.

I haven't used Steempeak, although I was leaning toward migrating my bookmarks there due to Justin Sun. How that Hive is a thing, I currently plan to phase out STEEM altogether.

I like Peak.network because it can operate as a hub without any specific branding.

If you can adapt your interface to let people cross-post to several platforms at once, that would be exceptionally cool. Imagine a one-click Steemit, Hive, whatever and a tweet, facebook post, and diaspora post at once should people want might be a cool addition. And since I don't code, I am absolutely certain it would be simple and painless to implement!

Peaksocial.com is the best of that list for me.

I can't say that I understand all of that, but I definitely want to see Peak as a hive front-end. As for keeping a Steempeak front-end, I figure that you'll keep one there unless it becomes unviable. If I feel I need to use Steem, then I can just add easily use Steemit if you drop things there. Hive is where the communities I've come to know and love are headed, so that's where my heart lies.

Peak.network and Peaksocial.com have a nice ring for me.

I'd support a Peak witness on either network, but I don't see JS allowing anything other than his own near the top 20 to have any influence.

peakaboo.io
Peaksocial.com

Funny.

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

Hive and Steem. Or Just Hive

What do you like about Hive?

Free from having a troubled history. Changes to mitigate hostile takeovers.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

I will use it long enough to Power Down my STEEM.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

Peaksocial.com & Peak.network because I like the names.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

Hive blockchain.

Any concerns you're having?

None currently.
:)

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

Hive

What do you like about Hive?

No Justin Sun or Ned. No Ninja mined stake. More decentralised.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

I might use Steempeak.com occasionally to share my Hive posts on Steem (although i think i can do that with Alt-Yes, so maybe not). Or perhaps i might use it occasionally to persuade Steem users who have not moved to Hive to do so.
If you are asking why i would use Steempeak.com (or whatever name it is rebranded with on Hive, then; Because of: Much better interface than others i have used. Side by side Edit/Preview. Drafts. Snippets. and much more.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

Peaksocial.com
Peak.network

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

Hive

Any concerns you're having?

Binance should not be airdropped.
I'm getting very little response from my proposal to use Matrix-8 for (at least some part of) governance on Hive. Of course i realise everyone is very busy right now. But i have been campaigning for over 2 months and very few seem to have looked deeply. Anyway, i am patient, persistent and praying that a proper proposal for Matrix-8 (when it is made) will get supported and built on Hive.

More info. about The Matrix-8 Platform, an owned by no-one, multi-level governance system, decentralised real time Democrity, in my post of earlier today:

A Key for Hive to Thrive

https://steempeak.com/hive-114105/@atma.love/a-key-for-hive-to-thrive
Matrix-8, Don't be Late

Smart Man

Smart enough to sometimes remember that all this is more like an illusion than real, and to remember that all that is really real is the one true self, yet still play consciously in this game of life, whilst recognising the fear that is always present if not in the foreground, then in the subconscious background.

Namaste

Namaste.

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
Both
What do you like about Hive?
I want to use steempeak on Hive too
If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
I want be able to operate on both blockchain
What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
I have made some proposal on discord, the short list above is very poor, no one for me is good, but I think is not so important for us as users
What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
Both
Any concerns you're having?
No

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

Hive.

What do you like about Hive?

Decentralization. And, I hope, much faster development.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

Not planning on using Steem anymore.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

Hive.

Any concerns you're having?

What if Justin Sun wants to buy your frontend and legally prevent you from operating on Hive?

Peaky ......

dot whatever

lol

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
hivechain

What do you like about Hive?
Well, it's not live yet but gives hope to be decentralized and has no ninja stakes

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
Do you mean the URL? That doesn't matter to me. It's the frontend I love and I would like to see on the hivechain! Call it idontgiveafuck.io - I don't care as long as I can use the interface.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
Well, I'm really not good at this (see above). You need to ask more creative people.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
hivechain

Any concerns you're having?
The only concern I have is that I'm on hive over two days without your frontend!

STEEM HIVE ON!!!

And don't forget steemworld 😒

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

I love Steempeak's user interface and web design and truly hope that I'll still be able to use it when blogging on Hive. I went to the normal steemit site the other day and almost died because it was so clunky and horrible compared to this masterpiece you guys have created.

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
HIVE.

What do you like about Hive?
Honestly, that's a hard one for me because I'm not really entirely blockchain savvy. I have been here for two years and while I'm not exactly the most engaged person, I observe and lurk a lot, and spend most of my days reading other people's thoughts and opinions.

My biggest draw to Hive is simply: that's where my friends will be, the weight that's burdened the chain will be gone, and it's exciting.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
I want to stay on a Peak-esque website attached to Hive, because the Peak is perfect and I'm actually surprised that you guys weren't working with the Hive crew and their hard fork, becoming the new default UI for all that is Hive.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
I like Peakd, but after reading through the comments I also like BeeSocial!

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
Hive

Any concerns you're having?
No concerns with the Peak 🙂 just hoping that things with the hard fork go okay.

Hey, @steempeak / @jarvie, et al:

Here are my answers to your questions—

  • If there's a way to crosspost to both chains, that would be good for me (not sure how others would feel about that, though). However, if I have to choose one, then I think HIVE, for the simple reason that STEEM is likely to become TRONitized at some point, barring some major about face.

  • I like the idea that HIVE can start out more decentralized than STEEM. Whether it will actually be that way from the beginning, or stay that way, we'll have to wait and see.

  • I actually think for all the reasons you said you would rebrand, that doing away with SteemPeak.com is for the best.

  • I'm not really fond of any of the choices, so I'm going straight to OTHER with a suggestion:

—Someone has already mentioned something like beepeak.com (or what might be reasonably available). I like the idea better of beespeak.net or whatever. It has the advantage of going with HIVE, but also potentially being independent, and the word bespeak has some interesting (and some fitting) definitions. It could be considered bee-sPEAK, or bees-PEAK,either of which works great for what you are and what you want to be. PEAK remains prominent in the new name in either case, so you don't have to do a complete logo overhaul. :)

  • If you really want to do a witness, I feel like there's a better chance of being a consensus witness there than on STEEM, the way things are looking now.

  • There are all kinds of concerns regarding the TRON takeover of the STEEM blockchain and now the impending hard fork. No easy answers, a lot of unknowns, and plenty of hard feelings all around. So, yeah, all kinds of concerns. Not entirely sure what to do about any of them other than to watch both chains and see where they go after Friday morning.

I do wish you luck, regardless of what you do. I think you've been a great, innovative addition to the STEEM blockchain, and have ambitious but achievable goals for the future. The trick is always moving forward, without getting ahead of yourself, or forgetting what (or who) got you to where you are in the first place. I hope to see all the improvements you're planning in the not so distant future.

YOUR QUESTION RECAP?

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

Hive. But both is acceptable.

What do you like about Hive?

The community aspect seems to be more ingrained from the beginning.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

I do like the interface, but I will probably move to Hive post fork.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

I honestly don't like any of them. Maybe socialpeak.com instead of peaksocial. It rolls off better for English speaking people IMHO. Maybe peaksociety.com Something that calls users who know nothing of crypto.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

Hive since you will basically have no power on Steem (most likely).

Any concerns you're having?

I would like steempeak or its derivative to continue to support the majority of the community which I hope will prove to be Hive. If your small team is split between 2 chains I worry about your resources.

Also, keep searching for a better name. Make a decision in the interim, but keep searching.

Oh, great..... now I have a million links in my various articles, which are going to link to nowhere? :(

My preference is hive block chain with #1 peaksocial.com, #2 peak.network

I will probably use steempeak.com for awhile to see what happens over there during the transition.

  • I will prefer you operate on HIVE
  • The brand and the absence of ninja-mined tokens
  • I don't want to stay on SteemPeak.com, because I choose HIVE
  • I prefer Dpeak.io but I even suggest PeakHoney for your re-brand?
  • I prefer HIVE chsin for your witness and I'll support you
    Cheers & !BEER 🤗

It would be nice if they gave you the option to use their own login method, without having to use keychan or steemconnect since the people who can only be accessed through a mobile device are limited to not using this dapp so well done; Since Android does not allow the use of the new steemconnect or the default one through keychan, we cannot download any extension to use it.
I cannot use steeampeak right now because steemconnect does not work for me on Android 5 and for keychan I must download an extension that I do not have access to from my browser either because it is used on my mobile phone.😔
I hope you take into account the opinions expressed here, see you in the hive.
@steempeak

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@steempeak,
It's still unclear more detaols about HIVE, specially who backed it, who dev the project. So I wish to wait till those questions resolved. THen yeah I hate to be at a TRON sh!t. That's the Novel Corona on Crypto Space. Therefore, it's better move to Hive Chain if all top witnesses will support that and I think https://steempeak.com/ URL is good to run on that too ;)
$trdo

Cheers~

The repository will be public very very soon... one would guess it would have names of the devs working on it. You already know some of the devs because they stated on the announcement that they have been working on it.

@steempeak,
If it has community devs, I think ex-Steemit Inc devs also support them. So this might be the best place to bring your Peak projects isn't it?

Cheers~

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Here's your new name: Speak

You're welcome.

Not gonna spend a bunch of time looking at registrar info, but speak.ez, or .io, or whatever, must be available. The campers just can't afford them all.

As to what I like about Hive, the only thing I can like about Hive is that it's going to enable the community that endured Steem's stormy existence to remain a community. Until we get on there, I won't know more. I don't expect Steem to remain of interest to me if Hive functions at all. I am not interested in being property of Sun Yuchen. I hope to support your block production on Hive, and don't want to have to migrate to another UI, so please do make the move to Hive.

I'm a pretty big fan of Steempeak as an interface to this community. I turned to it when awaiting resolution of issues I had with the Steemit TOS. Very quickly I never wanted to go back to Steemit, and those TOS issues were never resolved anyway. Since then the development progress you have undertaken has impressed me constantly, and continues to do so today. Keep up the good work!

To encourage your continued labor I voted for your SPS proposal, and also vote your witness. It's very little, as I have very little, but it's what I have, so it's what I can do.

I'm quite excited to hear hints about the future you have planned for Speak (just rolls off the tongue like it's what tongues are for, don't you agree?) and am happy to be here, today, to be availed the benefits of your hard work and agile minds going forwards.

Thanks!

Speak is a good idea or Dspeak.

This is such an exciting time! So moved and fueled to migrate to a name that i totally embraced before it was chosen for communities! New bees nest for the hive! I also like speak or dpeak, hivesummit,

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My vote is for Dpeak and I am using Steemit.com right now to publish this comment with but I may use Steampeak.com in the future to cross-post to Steem and I do plan to post to Hive in the future as well via whichever Hive app might be the best for that, and that may be Dpeak. Someday, my focus will probably be on Hive and I will probably just copy and paste some of my posts to Steem every once in a while with links pointing back to Hive.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

Speak.ing
Peak.ing


For the rest I'll trust your sane judgement... yet I would like to have steempeak keep on running, as for now my observation is, that all this is going by far too fast. And to follow an "inexistente" community while supporting so much bad language and much to much idiopathic behavior is just not my thing, I guess!
Peak On

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?
Hive over Steem. But I do like the idea of being non-exclusive and able to access multiple blockchains from your interface.

What do you like about Hive?
The chance to continue Steem without the risk of the ninja mined stake being used as Sun is now using it.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.
I've only started using SteamPeak over Steemit in these past few weeks and plan on continuing once the move to Hive is complete. Steampeak looks better, it has more features and I like that it's independent to the blockchain in a way that Steemit never was.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?
My preference would be PeakD and DPeak, with the eventual goal to become simply Peak.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?
Again, Hive over Steem. But if the idea is to be non-exclusive to any blockchain, you could run multiple.

Any concerns you're having?
Have never been a fan of forking within crypto, but hope this is really just going to be Steem minus the ninja mined stake. Also not sure about when or how to go about powering down on the Steem side.

I have been using Steempeak for a long while now and would be lost without it so I think I echo everyone saying we need yyou on hive

I love the suggested name of beesocial.com

make it simple. stick with one chain, everything else is too confusing, steemit/steempeak is already super confusing for newcomers. makes sense to go with hive, ninja stake out, no chance of that stake being used to control the chain. that said a lot will depend on the workings of hive and if they can prevent a large stakeholder to control it. a lot of whales will be transferred there, so don't know how that will turn out.

As of right now, I'd prefer and love to use your platform on Hive. That being said, I'm not yet fully dedicated to leaving Steem, so would like to use your platform on both chains.

Once those shouting down Justin are out of the way, he can then speak his mind and let us know his plan. We might like what he has to say.

Right now, he'll only be insulted, the comment thread hijacked by haters and downvoted into oblivion. He can't have a conversation with those that want to hear him out.

That being said, I'm going where Decentralization is the goal.

As for a name how about

"LifesPeak" or "PeakYourLife"

"Where you take your life to the next level"

Or

"Where you voice is set free"

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

Hive

What do you like about Hive?

More decentralization. More energy. No tarnished reputation.

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

Best looking UI with many great features.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

I like peak.network but a .com domain would be great, not sure which one.

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

Hive. I don't see much reason in running a node on a centralized chain.

Any concerns you're having?

Could be hard to create a smooth transition for all users. Also, if Steem-Engine will not migrate instantly, there could be issues because of the tokens.

!giphy buzz like a bee

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I love the planned fork. The corptocracy has done little other than launch steem. I was shadow banned by the bot army and want to see peakhive.io there. I enjoy your front end. Thank you for all of your work. Decentralization is the only way forward unless you want one central authority to take over and destroy what people build collectively. Volunteerism!

In the short term, I'd like to see you on both chains. If Justin doesn't change his current approach it will become a moot point as Steem will not thrive. If by some chance Steem thrives, bridges between the two chains will be amazing.

I like the peaksocial.com option for a name. It speaks to your core work and leaves options for integrating other chains if Open Seed works as they want as a link.

As much as I would like to spend more time using Steempeak .. it hurts my eyes to read much on it. The only discernible difference between the font on Steemit and Steempeak is it uses Serif font and that really pains me to say because I love sans serif normally but apparently my getting older eyes don't.

I will gladly support you on Hive, witness and all.
I like Peakd.com and Dpeak.io
only thing on steem I'd like to keep is the wallet.

Let's move!

What chain do you prefer us to operate on?

This question confuses me as you have a subheading saying you're intending on working with a lot of different chains o_O

It's okay I'm easily confused

What do you like about Hive?

Currently just the idea. Haven't had a chance to play with it yet XD

If you want to stay on SteemPeak.com tell us why.

I don't like the other options.

What 2 URL choices do you prefer for our re-brand?

Out of what's in the list peak.network feels like it would encompass whatever chains you wanted to cover...however you cover them (my poor meagre brain is still puzzled by the first question XD).

What chain would you prefer our witness to be on?

Wherever you feel most comfortable.

Come over to Hive and get my support.

hi @dollarbills

I've noticed you're still playing holybread :) And we seem to have our first little fight just now (Im playing as project.hope).

Out of curiousity I visited your account and I was wondering - did you give up on posting on steemit completely?

Yours, Piotr

OMG! I must apologize for seeing this so so late. I've not been around steemit or other blogging front ends for a while now. Just can't find the motivation to resume posting for now. Maybe that motivation will come in not too distant time, only time will tell. But I must sincerely appreciate you getting in touch. See you soon in the arena :)

My suggestion is Dpeak.io

Beesocial or Peaksocial.com

Please don't use Dpeak.io. I want to create a resource for people outside the community and this is going to look weird to them. We need to draw more consumers in.

Thank you for a simply excellent product for a content producer.