IS YOUR JOB THREATENED? Consequences of coronavirus in more way than you actually think. LET ME TELL YOU WHY ....

crypto.piotr (70) in hive-175254 • 5 years ago

	I've read quite a few publications about the Novel Corona Virus here on Steemit and I've noticed that most people share similar concerns. However, nobody seems to be wondering, if the current outbreak will impact our own businesses or our full-time jobs.

INTRODUCTION

So today, I would like to look at the current situation from a bit of a different angle; to change our perspective. And hopefully you, dear readers, can help me with that.

So, I would like to ask each one of you, to think if whatever-you-do for a living can be affected? Will this outbreak be a threat to your business ? Can you lose your job? Even if you're thousands of miles away from China?

Those questions have been bugging me for some time already. And the answer I have so far is not at all in my favor.

BLACK SWAN and economical "aftermatch" consequences
According to Moody's Analytics "Chinese Virus Could Be a ‘Black Swan Like No Other’". And it's hard not to agree.

Reading about Starbucks shutting down all their branches and also Apple Is Closing All of Its Stores and Corporate Offices in China Because of the Coronavirus Outbreak made me wonder, what could be the potential consequences for those of us, who rely on Chinese products and are collaborating with Chinese businesses.

And I only see dark clouds ahead

It has been very obvious that the world's second-largest economy has been under extreme pressure lately. Its economy has been slowing down and the tariff war with US isn't helping either. Many consider the current outbreak as a 'Straw that broke the camel's back'. And the pain we will all endure maybe a "once for our current generation" experience.

And trust me. I wish so badly to be wrong.

HOW WILL I BE AFFECTED?

Only some of you are aware, that I'm co-managing a small company - an online shop that sells laptop and phone accessories. All products are imported from China.

And there are millions of other small businesses across the globe, which are similar to ours. And since the Lunar New Year was coming - many of those businesses stocked up with products. Just enough to "go through" those few weeks.

All businesses relying on products MADE IN CHINA will most likely soon struggle with lack of supplies. Everyday of this virus is damaging our world supply chain more than we can imagine. And Im afraid that this is the time to ask myself a few questions:
*is my job threatened? may I become jobless soon? Will my business fail? How can I prevent that from happening? *

CHINA CENTRAL BANK TO THE RESCUE?

China's central bank has announced that it will inject 1.2 trillion yuan ($173bn) into the economy to help deal with the outbreak of coronavirus.
Link: https://www.france24.com/en/20200202-chinese-central-bank-to-pump-173-bln-into-economy-in-virus-fight

And there you go! Would you, dear reader, consider it a sensible solution? Print more money and pump them into the system? I personally am failing to see how that could that make things better. How could that help to solve the current problem? It seems that Central Banks in the current age are trying to solve every problem doing always the same: printing more money.

Where is it going to take us?

SHARE YOUR OPINION

Please resteem, drop valuable comment (I read them all) and let me know what do you think about this particular issue.

Yours, Piotr

How badly can the worldwide chain of supply be affected? Especially if the current situation will last another month or more?

Will prices of all items MADE IN CHINA go up in upcoming weeks? Will warehouses all over the world become empty soon?

Is your job depending in any way on Chinese economy and supplies coming from this country? Would you consider your job being threatened?

hive-175254 coronavirus corona virus economy discussion

5 years ago by crypto.piotr (70)

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apshamilton (64) · 5 years ago

Yes, I think that this is the biggest threat. It seems that the Chinese economy basically halted, and done so in a very rapid and unplanned fashion. Both China's internal steps to limit the spread and the international reaction of closing borders has shut down most economic activity.
Most air freight travel on passenger flights, so with all the airlines cancelling flights direct consumer order goods won't be able to leave China.
Chinese factories have shut down and its not clear when they will reopen, so bulk commercial purchases will not be available once current stocks are exhausted.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view on discussed topic @apshamilton

Stay safe buddy. Difficult times are coming.

ps.
Is there any way to reach out to you via DM? Do you perhaps use telegram or discord? Maybe you could drop me a message?
I would like to discuss one particular topic with you, and I don't want to do it all via blockchain.

My discord: crypto.piotr#3426
Telegram: crypto_piotr

Cheers, Piotr :)

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

It's me again @apshamilton

I just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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somena (56) · 5 years ago

Hi,
You asked me in my wallet notes to come and share with you about my experience with the new "hives" feature or "community" aspect of Steemit. I couldn't figure out how to join a hive, or create one, so I gave up. I would participate more on Steemit, if I could figure out a way to draw together a community with similar interests. But so far, the interface has not made it easy to use Steemit as easily as it is to use Twitter or Facebook for social gathering.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

It's me again @somena

I just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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enforcer48 (68) · 5 years ago

One of my friends work in the energy sector. He was telling me how they could not receive equipment that was supposed to be shipped from China due to the outbreak.

As for me, I work in the health sector, so it doesn't matter as much unless hospitals are overwhelmed.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view on discussed topic @enforcer48

I work in the health sector, so it doesn't matter as much unless hospitals are overwhelmed.

You surely may end up being heavily overworked. Stay safe buddy.

Yours, Piotr

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alauddinsee (56) · 5 years ago

Very good topic for current situation .

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

thanks for dropping by @alauddinsee

I've noticed that you're delegating some SP to steembasicincome and sbi5. Would you mind sharing with me how much do you receive (average weekly) in return for those delegations ? Just curious

Yours
Piotr

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Hi again @alauddinsee

Can I ask you for little favour? I joined contest called "Community of the week" with project I manage and I would be grateful if you could RESTEEM it and help me get some exposure and drop some encouraging comment :)

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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culgin (71) · 5 years ago

The viral outbreak is certainly going to be a setback for the China economy. Analysts are already anticipating the next quarter GDP to take a hit. However, China being China might be able to sugar-coat it somehow.

China is the factory of the world. Hence, any slowdown in productivity and business activities will certainly have impact on other countries. Just take Apple for example. Much of their phone parts are mafe in China. Thus, the supply chain is going to take a hit if China is unable to keep up with the demand.

At the individual level, we not only have to fear contracting the virus, we also have to worry about the economic slowdown which may affect our company's business and as a result our pay/bonuses.

I think there are many things that can happen. The real impact can only be estimated when this whole outbreak is over. Hope that day comes sooner rather than later.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thank you @culgin for such a brilliant comment

At the individual level, we not only have to fear contracting the virus, we also have to worry about the economic slowdown which may affect our company's business and as a result our pay/bonuses.

You nailed it buddy! And I must tell you - I'm bloody scared.

Difficult times ahead of all of us,
Yours, Piotr

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vimukthi (72) · 5 years ago

My "job" will not e affected. I simply work from my laptop. But the economic impact will be massive. Add inflation to the mix, we will be planting the seeds to an economic catastrophy that had already planted enough seeds to go bust bigger than 2008 crash. I'm not completely pessimistic about Corona virus. Humanity will get over it. We have made it through may diseases as a civilization. The media and increased globalization makes it seem like much bigger issue.

My real concern is the unseen effects of what people and governments do to "fix" the issue.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thank you for your kind comment @vimukthi

I'm glad to hear that your job won't be directly affected.
Difficult times ahead of all of us,

ps. I've noticed that you're delegating 6k to dlike. Would you mind sharing with me how much do you receive from them for your delegation? what's their average weekly payout?

Yours, Piotr

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littlenewthings (67) · 5 years ago

This is probably the time when retail running businesses that have been sabotaged by online retails actually start to benefit with their pre-stocked up goods.

And that also got me thinking, supporting local and also having outsource manufacturing like China simultaneously could be the only way to keep us afloat during hard times.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thank you for your kind comment @littlenewthings

Difficult times ahead of all of us,

ps. check out your discord whenever you have a moment :)
Yours, Piotr

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fucho80 (71) · 5 years ago

Hello dear @crypto.piotr.

I think that in our case it is very difficult to know that, I can only think that China is Venezuela's main business ally, however, as these alliances have had no repercussions in Venezuela, or they are minimal, I have no idea what would happen With the people in Venezuela.

In my personal case my biggest source of income at the moment is steem.

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deathcross (77) · 5 years ago

The heavy problem in China is the dictatorship: local authorities were trying to hide the truth from the Central Committee. The censorship slowed the information flows.

But in the US, there is another problem: Many people don't have health insurance, or can't afford to be ill. So many people never go to the doctor. I have heard that authorities in New York have to convince people now they have to visit the doctor if they are sick. They promise them free treatment now.

The average life expectancy in the very rich country, USA is surprisingly low - for two main reasons. Lack of health care, and drugs abuse.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view on discussed topic @deathcross

The heavy problem in China is the dictatorship

I wonder if democaracy wouldn't be a problem if such a virus would spread within europe. I can see politicians playing "blame game" instead of actually taking care of real issues.

Stay safe buddy. Difficult times are coming.

Yours, Piotr

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sunlit7 (59) · 5 years ago

Personally I have been trying very consciously not to buy Chinese made goods if I can help it. If there's no other comparable item then I am left with no choice, otherwise if a comparable items made elsewhere is available even for a few bucks more I bite the bullet and buy that item.

I made that decision about three years ago after reading an article about how many Chinese workers live on company property stacked fifteen high in bunk beds, they are made to work sixteen hour days, they charge them rent, utilities and for food if they provide a dining area.

I had gone to the store one day to buy my first ever air conditioner. I never really liked air conditioners because they make more noise than a fan. Usually if you run a fan during the night when it's cooler out and turn it off during the day your house doesn't really heat up that much till more towards evening when it starts to cool down and you can switch your fan back on. We had gone through about two weeks of straight high in the nineties without much of a night time breeze so tiring of it I thought I'd get an air conditioner and just use it in times like this. I come home with it and while opening it up I notice it said made in China. I sat there for a few minutes thinking about all those people crammed up living together forced to work sixteen hour days and I was about to relax in my cooled down room at their expense. It was a thought that I didn't want to find myself having to keep reflecting upon so I choose that moving forward I'd make a conscious effort not to buy goods from China. It's really hard at times to find goods that are not made there, one reason I gave up many, many years ago. Back when the US was losing jobs to China I fought until I spent more time in the stores looking for stuff not made in China than I really preferred to be spending as it was nearly impossible. Even back when I'd buy a car I'd tell the salesman I wanted an American made car, finally that response came back I can find you a car mostly made in America but not totally. That's what I'd have to settle for. Cars and clothes are nearly impossible to find being made here.

I am not going to say I feel bad for those who've chosen over the years to engage in slave labor if they lose business or revenue over this crisis, the saying often is what comes around goes around so those who will lose money over this will now feel what it was like when they jerked all those jobs out of the US and left people scrambling from the loss of their jobs and livelihoods.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Wow. Thank you @sunlit7 for such a brilliant comment

ps. I've noticed that your latest post is over 1 month old. did you give up on steemit? :(

Difficult times ahead of all of us,
Yours, Piotr

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sunlit7 (59) · 5 years ago

No not completely.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Hi again @sunlit7

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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sunlit7 (59) · 5 years ago

Sure though I don't think a lot of the people who follow me are much active anymore but I resteemed it for you.

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chekohler (70) · 5 years ago

I won’t say it affects me directly but indirectly yes China is a huge trade partner with South Africa in fact they are the biggest so it will surly have a knock on of businesses who rely on that trade and negatively impacting the economy

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Hi @chekohler

I was just wondering - how many corona virus cases can be found in African countries. I found it unbelieveble to think that it's still ZERO.

chekohler

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chekohler (70) · 5 years ago

Yes, there was one scare in Botswana but so far nothing has been confirmed! I see Europe and Australia are already reporting cases

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rok-sivante (75) · 5 years ago

Hmmm... this all does bring more points to the table that’
would fit the conspiratorial case it’s a matter of the virus having been manufactured and released as a means of biological warfare... 🤔

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thank you for your kind comment @rok-sivante
Difficult times ahead of all of us,

My discord: crypto.piotr#3426
Telegram: crypto_piotr

Cheers, Piotr :)

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rok-sivante (75) · 5 years ago

Contact request sent on Discord

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rok-sivante (75) · 5 years ago

”Do we happen to know each other?”

Damn dude. For real.

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sunlit7 (59) · 5 years ago

My opinion would be the world's economy is to interlinked and has been extremely fragile, one falls the others could fall like dominoes so I highly doubt it was done along that basis.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

thanks for dropping by @sunlit7 and sharing your thoughts with me.
appreciate it .

yours, Piotr

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josevas217 (79) · 5 years ago

Hello Friend @ Interesting article.

I have some considerations in relation to that issue... coincidentally the biggest competitor with the American market is the Chinese market. It's economically convenient for the US, which is happening, unfortunately.

I know, as a health professional, that creating viruses is possible... I leave that there...

But, beyond this, worldwide the market is affected, because by the law of business, when a product becomes scarce the price increases, and when the existence increases the price decreases, it is possible that the prices of these products in this country increase, or by a psychological effect of fear rather decrease, diicil know exactly what will happen.

But locally in some countries it will have a positive effect on the local economy, since by decreasing the arrival of products of Chinese origin the consumption of the local could increase, in theory... or, the U.S. empire could gain more ground. Who knows...

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view on discussed topic @josevas217

Stay safe buddy. Difficult times are coming.

Yours, Piotr

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huseyinunozkan16 (60) · 5 years ago

Dear @crypto.piotr,
Your view is
"Only some of you are aware, that I'm co-managing a small company - an online shop that sells laptop and phone accessories. All products are imported from China.

However, right now local suppliers seem to share a similar concern: will chinese employees go back to work once their new year is over? Will factories be re-opened and running? Will shipping companies be operating as usual? So many questions - and received replies are not very optimistic."
But this concern may be lower in near future by using cryptocurrancy.
You most probably go to China many times in every year for meeting principles of your trade. And this may be the biggest problem in these days.
İf we use cryptocurrancy efficiently we will not have any problem evden if we do not go to China.
Thank you for your valuable post

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Dear @huseyinunozkan16

I appreciate your kind comment.

I'm shocked to see your reply. I thought that you already gaved up on steemit. Great to see that you're still around buddy

Yours, Piotr

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

It's me again @huseyinunozkan16

I just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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gbenga (73) · 5 years ago

Dear crypto.piotr
This has become a very serious concern for most countries in the world. In Nigeria, a lot of companies are co-owned by Chinese and a lot of businesses get their goods from china. Unlike the US and europe who are producers, Africa often import things and most of the imports are from china.

The relationship of African countries and china is very important to the economy of Africa and with the emergence of coronavirus, a lot of african countries will experience a set back in economy if a solution isn't available soonest.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view on discussed topic @gbenga

ps. I wonder if there are any cases of Corona Virus in Africa already. Media wouldn't say :/

Yours, Piotr

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gbenga (73) · 5 years ago

@crypto.piotr I haven't heard of any case of coronavirus in Africa. First, Africans don't joke with the Christmas and new year break since those is the major breaks in Africa, coupled with the believe that chinese do not work during chinese new year, so there will be very few African in china if there are any at all as at when the virus became an epidemic.

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lanzjoseg (74) · 5 years ago

@crypto.piotr friend

I think your concern is very valid after seeing all the events that are happening minute by minute.
Of course, this will affect the world economy in every way, a stop company is a company that does not produce, and not necessarily manufacturing can be any type of company, including as an example that business you mention that depends on Chinese suppliers for stock your electronic components business.

This situation generates future unemployment and that for a country is terrible because it increases public spending, and creates the situation that you also mention, where the central bank prints more money and generates more inflation within that country.

This virus outbreak will affect all the economic foundations of many countries. in small, medium and large companies that depend on supplies that come from China.

I don't see anything encouraging this whole situation.

I share your concern.

Saludos. :)

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Thank you for your kind comment @lanzjoseg

Just like you said: 'this will affect the world economy in every way'

Difficult times ahead of all of us,
Yours, Piotr

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sacra97 (71) · 5 years ago

Thinking that many products come from China, possibly many countries are affected. The expected mortality according to the data is high. We pray for the sick, so far there.
@crypto.piotr

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

Hi @sacra97

Thank you for dropping by

From what I've learned - virus will not survive such a long trip (from China) if it doesn't have a host (human).

ps.
Together with few friends from @project.hope - we're working on our own curation trail.

Basically all publications which we resteem on project.hope (3-4 posts daily) are being upvoted with @ph-fund, which triggers our curation trail. And few hours later 300k upvote from project.hope is being placed on that post. Which pretty much double all curation rewards of those who follow this trail. I see it as a win-win scanrio.

Is it okey if I share with you link to post where we're brainstorming this idea? I would like to hear your feedback and perhaps you will find it interesting and worth joining.

Cheers, Piotr

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kylie-steem (35) · 5 years ago

Fortunately, I work 100% online as a freelance writer and none of my clients are based in China or sell Chinese products. While I shouldn't be affected, it's very interested to read about the ripple effect of how it could affect others.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Hi again @kylie-steem

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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captainklaus (64) · 5 years ago

Are you actively voting on the @steemengineteam posts, or do they just have your authority from long ago?
Just askng, as a lot of people are not aware they are upvoting their posts...

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creativeblue (61) · 5 years ago

@tipu curate

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tipu (67) · 5 years ago

Upvoted 👌 (Mana: 0/3 - need recharge?)

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stefano.massari (72) · 5 years ago

“Chinese virus Could Be a ‘Black Swan Like No Other”, yes! I think it could be. I live in Italy, some repercussions have also been here. Drop in customers in Chinese restaurants.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

Hi again @stefano.massari

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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stefano.massari (72) · 5 years ago (edited)

@crypto.piotr, OK done. I resteem it

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block.token (61) · 5 years ago

✋🏻

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digi3d (47) · 5 years ago

I have friends in Hunan, Hong Kong and other little areas around China. This scares me some but they are still living a life. So I try to connect a bit more with them and remind them I love em. I think the people's effected by it matters most. Even after saying this, there has been an incident of coronavirus in my state (OK, USA) just a hour or so away from me. It's only 1 person & contained supposedly so, I'm not worried just being ready for the next day.

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karamyog (72) · 5 years ago

Hey @crypto.piotr! You are actually getting directly impacted by the complete shut-down of Chinese economy. I hope you survive and this thing sorts out quickly for you.

You raise some very pertinent points. I am actually not impacted by Coronavirus at all in terms of employment. Yes my investments get impacted because this thing will impact financial markets. So I do lose out.

China being the world's factory as many have already mentioned should seriously impact almost every industry. I mean a lot of pharma companies depend on India for drug APIs and that means drugs can get costly. That impacts almost every household in India. Mobile handsets and electronic items getting expensive is not a huge problem because at the end of the day, these are discretionary purchases. But Companies will get impacted. Lots of companies are already revising earnings guidance lower for the coming quarter. I really think, this could go out of control. I don't know if Chinese lock down of citizens will be effective. On paper it sounds like it should but when, how, no one knows.

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago (edited)

Late thank you for your valuable comment @karamyog

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

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intellihandling (63) · 5 years ago

Dear Piotr only now i saw your post regarding Coronavirus and i cannot aoid to comment on it, because for sure it has been affected my business.
On 20th january i went back from there, luckly with no health problem, but all what i left there to be ended and close my business is now left to unknow time and all my supposed income are postponed.
So i can tell you is really a big trouble for me this situation, i cannot program anything because now i am in financial trouble and i need to find quickly a solution...:(((

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crypto.piotr (70) · 5 years ago

hi @intellihandling
how's your situation now? over 2 weeks later? much worse or did get any better?

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intellihandling (63) · 5 years ago

Dear Piotr, now i am in Italy near by Milano and i cannot move to another customer due to this virus is going to do, but this not means here we are all sick, the difference between Italy and other countries are the quantity of check done, here are 25000 and in the other countries 1000, so what we are talking about?
The cost of one check is 1500 euro!!!

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