Today I have a publication that is based on research I have done, but at the same time I am in doubt since the recent announcement by Russia that it already has a vaccine for Covid-19. If this is true, the end of this whole complicated world situation is near, but, there are things that are not very clear to me, according to what I know and have been able to review, the process of creating a vaccine is complex.
At least, when the virus is already known, as in the case of influenza viruses, it takes approximately 6 months to manufacture it, in a process that includes several stages which, according to the World Health Organization (WHO) are the following:
- The identification of a new virus.
- Obtaining the vaccine strain (the so-called vaccine virus).
- Verification of the vaccine strain.
- Preparation of the reagents for testing the vaccine (reference reagents). Source
Stages that are carried out in different laboratories that are collaborators of the WHO, and can take a time of 2-3 months. After that, there is a stage of manufacturing, which also takes a few months (3-4 months), and then distribution, verification in each of the different countries that receive the vaccine, as there are specific rules for administering these in each part of the world. In some cases they are tested, which may even take a few weeks or months.
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This that I mention is in relation to the vaccines of frequent use, like the "Anti-influenza", that already there is a partial identification of the virus, and what I do is to update its structure, since like any virus, it has the possibility of mutating, with slight changes in its structure of DNA, which facilitates the process of identification.
But, what in this particular announcement from Russia calls my attention is that being the Crown Virus a new know, which was totally unknown, already in a short time it managed to get a vaccine, that is, to carry out these processes that I mentioned before and not only that, without testing on animals first, as is what they usually do, testing on rats or mice, since genetically we have some similarity, and then they go on to test on humans, a small group, generally volunteers, and depending on these results is that they test on thousands of people, which will involve other months of studies.
Has Russia carried out these steps yet? I don't know, yesterday, August 12, 2020, as his deputy health minister, Oleg Gridnev, said, they registered the first Anti-Covid Vaccine, after conducting a trial on only 38 patients, in a study that began on June 18, 2020...
This leaves me with many doubts. The truth is that I understand the functioning of the immune system, and to think that only 38 people serve as a sample to know how the organism of the more than 7 billion inhabitants will react seems a little absurd, even more so considering that in every country in the world there are particularities that respond not only to different genetic origins but also to specific climatic conditions and even type of diet.
Could it be that they were already experimenting with the vaccine on thousands of people for a long time and that's why they dared to register the vaccine at once?
Because while it is true that we always have the United States, Germany or England as some references of progress, Russia is not left behind, it is a power, and I see a little difficult that they want to risk making such a move without first being sure.
But the WHO has not made any record of studies on thousands of people, which would be the third and final stage? Or is it that these trials on thousands of people have already been carried out under less than ideal conditions?, for example on prisoners, which would not be the first time that something similar has happened somewhere in the world
It only remains to wait, in this alone I have brought some of my concerns around this issue, as a scientist that I am. But if this vaccine really works, and as Russia says, that in October it would be carrying out massive vaccinations, the solution is welcome.
Have you heard or read anything about it?
I would like to know your opinion, thank you for reading me.
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It would be great about the vaccine, today we know that supposedly Russia has it, now we are all waiting for it to happen, who will be the first to receive it, it will benefit everyone? Or just a few? I think it is a rather complex situation, besides we do not know if Russia could or intends to manufacture vaccines for the world population.
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It's up to us to wait, because we have no idea what's going to happen. And the logical thing is that it can be gradually distributed to everyone.
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I have read about it, but I haven't seen any numbers related to how many people they have tested it on. If 38 is the real number, then I would call it crap!
But, I am sure that it is a big competition between all the countries of the world to come with a vaccine, and right now, it seems as it Putin is the first out with this. But, I have a feeling that many countries are sitting on hold, as there is a lot of skepticism to this (which I can clearly understand and that I feel myself). In other words, if someone would offer me this vaccine tomorrow, I most likely wouldn't say yes... I'd rather spend some more months in isolation!
Hard and tough topic, but I do hope it will work and that it will help people!
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Yes, one doesn't even know what to think, perhaps if it had been the United States that made the vaccine, the publicity blitz would be something else. Even if I hadn't respected protocols.
It's very complex, one doesn't know what to expect about it. I don't think I'd put it on either, not now, in the middle of all this madness.
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Lets wait and hope for the wait as all we xould now od is to wait and pray that there is no politics involved in distribution of the vaccine if it is successful.
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Hoping that the vaccination will be successful, and that these are not false hopes, and of course, that the great powers do not come to want to monopolize everything, as they usually do, hoping, certainly, has no other choice.
Thank you for commenting.
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I trust that russia does .. but not china
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China has created a very bad reputation in this.
I don't think it's in their best interest to create something to cure the disease that came from them.
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China has been pretty much source for a lot of negative things... They get away because they are the biggest financial supporter and trade partner of most world countries (except USA, they rank 3rd currently, and Norway, which has oil reserves).
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They have been strategic in their relationships, but that should not be, however, is.
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Chinese businessmen are not stupid, they clearly have business sense when they say minimum viable products to other countries.
Very little know that a lot of big brand Chinese microchips are actually made by same company using several brand names... These pretty much include Realtek, SiS etc... These are pretty much same distinction as for example Fiat and Ferrari... One is low-quality brand name and the other is high-quality brand name...
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No doubt they are very smart, otherwise it would be impossible for them to be in business practically all over the world and to be shaking the American economy.
Almost silently, they're just doing a little bit at a time.
Good data you've brought, THANK YOU.
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The world is in so much wait for a confirmed cure. Maybe it would bring a stop to the whole mess in the world; I hope it does. However, while the researches are still going on, prevention and discipline seem to be the best shot yet. Which China and a large part of Asia has demonstrated.
The approval process of a vaccine takes a long time — half a year or more. And at this stage, if any solid research isnt underway that would yield a potential vaccine, then we can all have a clear head and project how long we would wait.
Announcement from Russia is a good news if it is true. The testing of only 38 people isn't enough to me. I hope it's not political though
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Very quickly they did, very few tests reported, there is no multilateral review, more tests must be done in different countries, the climatic conditions may affect in some way, tests must be done, is what I think.
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The fact is that you can't kill a virus... Most vaccines just mask the symptoms by boosting person's own defense system, but don't actually kill or block the virus infection. You still get some of the symptoms but they are a lot weaker if it is same or compatible mutation of the virus.
Only bacterial infections can be cured permanently.
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This is good info... If it is true that viruses are not actually killed, then clearly the world stand a better chance at moving on from this if we become more discipline. Follow prevention rules such as distancing and use of masks
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A lot of viruses hide in central nervous system when "dormant" and then resurface after few years or when immune system is weaker than normal.
This is possible because human immune system is largely based on activity of white blood cells and there is no blood cells in nervous system.
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Thanks for the explanation @mtl1979. I think though that you have a deep knowledge of biology.
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I never liked reading children's books when I was little, instead I did read technical manuals, phone books, encyclopedias etc...
I still have the same 24 part encyclopedia I did read when I was a child even though most of the data is already outdated... It was made in 1960s ;)
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Personally, I do not believe anything to these people, I would have to see that if that vaccine works to believe it, I would dare to say that it is a strategy to earn money, more than one country is going to buy that from them just like many countries will buy from China a COVID test that didn't work well
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Certainly @ramsesuchiha
The tart who tried that, surely made billions from something that didn't work. Probably international courts are investigating some things about it.
Wait and see what happens.
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Most medical research companies have immunity against any criminal charges... No court will investigate them. The immunity agreement is usually signed before the product is even distributed anywhere to make sure government takes any risk when national security is involved.
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I didn't know that, under this reality, it's impossible to blame a company for anything.
No wonder companies like MONSANTOS have done so much wrong on so many occasions and nothing has happened...
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I worked almost 15 years for government and did learn quite a lot about how things work. When I did quit and start my own business, they did pay me about 4000 EUR.
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Russia doesn't have the vaccine yet... They are doing initial testing for a potential vaccine... News agencies are just making fun of battle between Trump and Putin for who gets the vaccine faster to public use.
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I have decided not to disregard a lot of publications put out by the Russian government. The Russian government has always been in competition with the United state and want to be at the top of every innovation and research, so there is a possibility that the Russian or Chinese government might have the Vaccine.
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Certainly, this war of powers has been going on for a long time. It's not new. In the end one as a normal civilian has no scope to really know what is behind all this.
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