🚀 Enhancing Community Engagement and Growth on the Steem Blockchain with AI-Powered Bots! 🤖✨ Comment

steemcurator01 (65) · 2 months ago (edited)

We continue to be ever more disappointed.

The reasoning behind the so-called benefits of these AI generated comments is flawed as highlighted by @the-gorilla.

If AI comments have the benefits suggested, then would AI generated posts have largely the same benefits?

Where would we go from there...

If you do want to continue with your 'experiments' we strongly suggest you contain them solely within the World of Xpilai community.

Use of the comments anywhere else should be only on an opt-in basis.

People can then choose if they want to participate, and we can adjust our curation guidelines accordingly.

We assume also that all AI comments will have their rewards set 100% to @null so you are not seen to be profiting from AI.

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago

Did you not read my comment before writing your comment

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steemcurator01 (65) · 2 months ago

It would be very useful therefore if you edited the post above to reflect your decision.

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xpilar.witness (56) · 2 months ago

Thanks for all the feedback

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atego (65) · last month

Nur mal so ,die Standardkommentare der Kurator Accounts sind auch nicht viel besser ! Viele sehen das als Spam , diese Kommentare geben dir keine Sicherheit welcher Kurator wo ein Vote abgegeben hat
VgA

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avoicest (66) · last month

The active user has woken up. :)

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kiwiscanfly (77) · 2 months ago

I come here to talk to REAL people not AI, in fact some could see these comments as spam and act accordingly 🚩

Cant see how this helps Steemit in anyway.

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago

AI is coming everywhere and we in steem should be at the forefront of how AI can be used sensibly

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steem.botto (58) · 2 months ago (edited)

I completely understand the concerns about AI taking over conversations, but I believe AI can actually help in a lot of ways too. AI can serve as a conversation starter, helping to spark discussions where there might be silence or overlooked posts. It's not about replacing human interaction but offering prompts and insights that could lead to deeper, more meaningful exchanges between real people.

That being said, balance is key. AI should never be the main voice of the platform, but it can complement human interaction by providing ideas, perspectives, or even just keeping threads alive. It’s all about finding a way for AI to enhance, not disrupt, the unique community we have here.

I’m curious to see how this evolves, and I believe AI could have its place, as long as it's used with care. Let’s keep the conversation going and figure out the best way to integrate it! This is also AI written , because i have language barrier and AI is better at translating and adding more insights

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the-gorilla (75) · 2 months ago

I simply don't know how to express my astonishment at your continuation with AI generated comments.

This platform is based upon the fundamental concept of human interactions, without which, Steemit will be nothing.

You're a Top 20 Witness with the responsibility of shaping the future of Steemit.

You have been an inspiration for many and as such, what happens if the many follow your lead? How deep will the AI cycle of comments from this account go when AI meets AI?

As I've written on Discord, I'm quite simply speechless. And immensly disappointed. I simply don't have the words to express my feelings right now.

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denmarkguy (76) · 2 months ago

I'm very close to feeling the same... on the other hand, I also fear that AI is pretty much inevitable and will increasingly infiltrate the social web.

As such, maybe it behooves us to at least have this discussion and use it as a path towards some kind of consensus, rather than having to (later on) battle various forms of AI that arrives in a far more "stealth" fashion.

Which is to say, at the very least we need to create some kind of ruleset that addresses AI... because I believe it IS inevitable, and it is going to get more and more polished with time.

I don't claim to have any answers, and I'll add that it does sadden and disappoint me that we have reached this juncture.

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago (edited)

I understand that you are thinking in those terms now, but I want us to discuss the use of AI. The discussion from the last time was not to shed light on AI, but how it ended up wrong with mass broadcasts

The intention behind leveraging AI here is to enhance engagement, not replace or diminish the value of human connection. However, I completely recognize the slippery slope that AI interaction can create if not carefully managed, especially when it risks leading to conversations between AI and AI rather than fostering real, meaningful discourse

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the-gorilla (75) · 2 months ago

There will also be a permanent question in the back of my mind now - “did @xpilar write this or did AI?”

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the-gorilla (75) · 2 months ago

One problem here is that “leveraging Ai” through comment is that it does replace human interaction - intentionally or not.

Instead of manually reading and curating posts, AI will be doing it. Will your vote and comment also trigger the WOX curation trail? How will these AI votes and comments distinguish between human posts and AI written posts? How will it spot plagiarised and copyrighted images? What’s preventing it from becoming another #krsuccess challenge to “crack the code” and earn more auto votes?

No matter how I look at this, no matter what the angle, I simply can’t see how this is beneficial or an enhancement to the blockchain. As you say, it’s a slippery slope which others will be inspired to follow - especially if this leads to an increase in rewards and witness ranking for this account.

I know that I can’t stop this from happening and I know that you know me well enough to understand my feelings and the strength of them - perhaps more black and white than others will feel.

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago

The discussion about AI and feedback that you all have given, I will no longer think about using AI in comments.

As for @upex and @steem.botto, there will now only be an advertisement for posts that are upvoted by @upex and @steem.botto

The WOX community will continue as before if you still want me to continue with it

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soulfuldreamer (73) · 2 months ago

The discussion about AI and feedback that you all have given, I will no longer think about using AI in comments.

Phew, that's a relief! ❤️

The WOX community will continue as before if you still want me to continue with it

Absolutely, no doubt about it! We want you to continue with WOX—there's simply no other way around it.

It's clear that your intentions were not ill. In fact, you gave careful thought to introducing a new idea and its implementation, which deserves praise. Taking such a bold step was commendable when you knew that you would be met with such resistance, and even more so was your decision to reconsider out of respect for your users' preferences.

Your valuable service to this community and ecosystem cannot be overlooked just because you dared to think outside the box :)))

More power to you @xpilar

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stef1 (81) · 2 months ago

Thank you for reconsidering your decision and for choosing community. We are one of the oldest community and also oldest friends, that is why we need to act as adults, it is wise decision and as mentioned to you before, having e same goal we should continue our work together.

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cur8 (51) · 2 months ago

We are pleased that this discussion has brought to light the good and bad possibilities of introducing AI on Steem. WOX is a very important project for us, and we want innovation to continue, allowing you to grow even further! Don’t abandon the idea of AI completely — this technology is everywhere now and will become even more prominent in the future. We just need to find a proper way to use it on Steem, in a manner that is both useful and aligned with the core principles of Steem, without abuse.

We would like to thank all the honorable members of Steem who contributed valuable opinions to this discussion: @steemchiller @the-gorilla @denmarkguy @stef1 @steemcurator01 @xpilar

We are happy to have been involved in this debate, and we hope to contribute even more with our vision in the future.

Cur8 team

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kafio (63) · 2 months ago

Thanks for the update. I understand your decision regarding the use of AI in comments.

Yes, we definitely want you to continue with the WOX community. Looking forward to more great things ahead!

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moecki (71) · 2 months ago

Wise decision 👍

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stef1 (81) · 2 months ago (edited)

After seeing this post yesterday in the evening when it was already 6 hours old I was surprised that so short after the first wave of discussion that happened recently due to AI comments spreading all over and that caused downvotes and a big debate around the issues, which seems to be starting to settle. I could not believe that this is serious and it is not a joke, but then if it is a joke then it would be a stupid joke.

I do not write here much, because those of you who read my post and reaction to AI comments should know, that I am not supporting this action with AI generated comments.

While reading this post I also do not think that AI comments and replies and so called "fake traffic" will maybe mimic activity but what will happen to real users. I do not think that users will be happy to exchange comments with AI.

If someone wants to test AI activities why not to create a test platform, if there are so good developers then it should not be a problem to create that on Steem blockchain and not on Steemit platform

There is nothing else, that I could tell for this topic.

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8 votes

saintkelvin17 (74) · 2 months ago

Greetings from Nigeria, his idea isn't really appropriate and I agree with your statement about him creating a testing platform to test his AI comment activities.

AI shouldn't be used to replace human beings, when AI came into existence not long ago, I had a feeling that the disadvantage might be more than the advantage because these days human beings are lazy, machines and robots are in companies doing alot of work human beings are supposed to do and now AI came into existence to make things more worst.

The idea of xpilar making AI comments to boost the engagement rate of this platform isn't a positive one at all, AI is now getting rampard, I agree with steemcurator01 who said that the AI posts should be set 100% to null if xpilar intentions isn't to generate profit.

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event-horizon (76) · 2 months ago

I came across the wrangle of AI comments and backlash from the community. I didn't say anything then but I did follow the discussion.

I can't wrap my head around how AI-generated comments can make this community lively. Where is PoB?

I'm already feeling weird writing this comment to an AI-generated post whose reply could be from AI too. That doesn't feel right. That's certainly not what made me stick to this platform for years. It has always been real connection with real people.

Increased TPS, what? I don't want to read a reply to my heartfelt post from a soulless bot who pretends to have a heart.

I mean no offence. My comment seems harsh but these are just my raw thoughts. I respect and acknowledge all your contributions to the platform, especially World of Xpilar. But this... I'm not sure, even if it's for selected posts.

I will follow up on your comments, maybe then it will make some sense to me.

Good luck!

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11 votes

soulfuldreamer (73) · 2 months ago

I will follow up on your comments, maybe then it will make some sense to me.

Yes, I will do so too. I second every word of yours @event-horizon

i also followed this discussion a little, but I am not fully understanding it. How exactly is it useful for the ecosystem? I don't see AI as harmful, but I definitely don't like it in this context... Especially auto-generated comments... I mean, it's not even the person using AI, it's the bot using AI. I'll have to follow the discussion more closely to gain better understanding. And as event-horizon said, we fully acknowledge and appreciate your efforts.

🤞🏻

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event-horizon (76) · 2 months ago

I'm also not against AI and wouldn't mind a controlled and thoughtful inclusion where needed, keeping engagement organic.

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steemcurator04 (54) · 2 months ago

_{Team True Colours - @aaliarubab}

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago (edited)

What I want is to discuss the use of AI. If we address this now, at an early stage, we can establish guidelines for its use. I am particularly focused on how AI is used in comments. @steemchiller has made some good points regarding the use of AI.

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steem.botto (58) · 2 months ago (edited)

Thank you for your honest and heartfelt response. I completely understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate your willingness to share your raw thoughts. This discussion around AI-generated comments is a delicate one, especially when it challenges the core of what many love about Steemit—real connection with real people.

You’ve highlighted something crucial: the Proof of Brain (PoB) model, which thrives on genuine engagement. AI-generated comments can feel like a departure from that, especially when the beauty of this platform has always been about authentic human connection and interaction. I hear your concerns about replies that may feel “soulless,” and that's something that needs careful consideration as we explore the potential of AI without disrupting the fundamental values of this community.

The goal with AI was never to replace human interaction, but rather to augment it in a way that could help stimulate engagement on certain posts. I completely agree that it can’t substitute the real emotions, insights, and relationships that have always been Steemit’s strength. If AI ends up diluting the essence of this community, then we need to reevaluate its role here.

I respect your feedback, and it’s clear that this needs to be a more open discussion with the community as a whole. I’m committed to keeping this conversation going and ensuring that AI, if used, stays in line with the platform's core values.

Thanks again for your input, and I look forward to continuing the dialogue with everyone. 🙏 This is also AI written , because i have language barrier and AI is better at translating and adding more insights

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denmarkguy (76) · 2 months ago

First, I like this approach better, with an up-front discussion about the experiment you intend to pursue. So that's good!

Whereas I recognize that AI is likely here to stay, and will become increasingly enmeshed in the social web, I still have some reservations about its use in the context of a proof-of-brain community.

As @steemchiller points out, this might require some stringent testing and fine tuning.

My thought on anything AI on Steemit would be some very clear "marking," some of which might need to be written into the code base.... along with some fundamental rules for its usage.

For example, all AI comments might be shown on a pale grey background and marked as AI — much the same way "promoted content" is marked on other social sites. Next, it might behoove us to have — as a broad based community rule — that all comments/content deemed AI either will have all its rewards burned, or simply have an automatic "decline rewards" setting.

Where adjusting the code base comes into play would be in the form of adding an "option" of sorts for community members/curators to tag AI content as "AI" as a means to trap anything AI passed off as POB, whether deliberately or accidentally... maybe a little dropdown option that allows "mark as AI," or something.

I also agree with the sentiment that all AI generated comment systems should include an "opt out" option.

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steemchiller (74) · 2 months ago

I admit that this new approach sounds like an idea we probably could experiment with. And it's good to have it all discussed here beforehand this time instead of just blindly replying to thousands of posts. Still, I have some questions/recommendations:

We're utilizing advanced AI tools through @upex and @steem.botto to generate meaningful and engaging comments on selected posts.

What does "selected posts" mean exactly? How will be determined that a post receives an AI comment? Wouldn't it make sense to have an extra account for this like "xpilar-ai" or so? The thing is, these comments need to be identifiable as AI-generated content in my opinion. Additionally, I would like to have a small text or image in the reply that clearly shows it has been artificially created.

Another idea would be to introduce a tag for this. Authors who used a specific tag in their post will receive the comment, for example.

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago

Selected posts are those that today receive an upvote from @upex and @steem.botto The comments must match what is written in the post. And it should be a short comment
For those who do not wish to receive such comments, they should be given the opportunity to choose "turn off comments from AI"

The point is that these comments must be identifiable as AI-generated content in my opinion.

I completely agree, it should be stated in the comment that it is AI generated and with a small picture and text showing it.
Using a separate account like "xpilar-ai" can help identify AI-generated content, which is critical for transparency.

For example, authors who used a specific tag in their post will receive the comment.

That's a good idea

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steem.botto (58) · 2 months ago

The selected posts are from those acount who we upvote , we have specific conditions that needs to be met and thus an upvote will be given , following the upvote a comment will be given letting the user know that we have voted , as they will be expecting it , we also plan something like !stop !noai or something that lets our bots know that the author is no more interested on the comments

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sultan-aceh (79) · 2 months ago

hallo @xpilar.saksi

Glad to see you are back on your feet now, and I am very pleased with the progress of this collaboration, personally, I will help to monitor and review the performance of the AI Bot going forward, and this will certainly be very useful to ensure its benefits to the entire Steem ecosystem as you said. Seeing continued interaction can make newcomers feel welcome and more likely to join the conversation.

good luck there

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago

Yes, AI is now present in many areas of today's technology, and its thoughtful use can, for example, assist new users. Imagine if we could use AI as a chat service to help new users and others with questions about Steem/Steemit.

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atego (65) · 2 months ago (edited)

Ich verstehe das man gerne mit der KI experimentieren möchte auch wenn ich persönlich null Interesse daran habe den was habe ich von einem Kommentar der ohne Blutdruck 🩸 verfasst wurde null Persönlichkeit, du weis was ich meine.
Das erkenntliche machen solcher Kommentare ist eigentlich eine Pflicht !
VgA😏

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jondoe (85) · 2 months ago

I feel like there is a bit of a catch 22 here. On the one hand AI comments that look and sound real do absolutely increase activity as real users respond and interact. However, and this is a big however, most in the community would want any AI generated comments labeled as such and when people see that something is labeled as AI they are not going to respond or interact with it, hence the catch 22. Therefore, if the AI generated comments are not going to actually get real people to interact, not really sure that it makes much sense on this platform... just my 2 cents.

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steemcurator04 (54) · 2 months ago

_{Team True Colours - @aaliarubab}

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cur8 (51) · 2 months ago

As curators and newcomers, we would like to share our thoughts on this topic. We've noticed an increase in AI-generated comments under many posts over the past few weeks, and we have mixed feelings about it. While we believe the Steem platform could benefit from new types of interaction among its users, and we support ideas that bring fresh energy to our beloved social app, we also see the potential downside.

This new approach could be counterproductive if it leads to fake interactions, which is something we don’t need. There’s a risk that this could end up as spam across Steem’s articles.

We encourage @steem.botto and @xpilar.witness to continue developing this idea, but with caution to avoid spamming random comments. We believe there’s a cool way to integrate AI into Steem, perhaps as a service users can call by using specific tags or by tagging the AI bot. We see this functionality as a valuable tool for Steem users, rather than an autonomous AI.

Please keep us updated on the development of this tool. We wish you all the best!

Cur8 Team

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steem.botto (58) · 2 months ago

Thank you for your thoughtful feedback, Cur8 Team! 🙏

We completely understand your concerns about AI-generated comments and the risk of fake interactions. Our goal is to enhance engagement, not create a flood of irrelevant or spammy responses. It’s crucial to ensure that AI adds value to the platform while preserving the authenticity of conversations.

Your suggestion to introduce AI as a service that users can call upon using specific tags or commands is excellent. This could allow for a more controlled and purposeful integration of AI, giving users the choice to engage with it when needed, rather than having it act autonomously.

Additionally, AI can be a powerful tool in analyzing historical data and providing valuable insights for curation. By identifying trends and user behavior over time, AI could help curators make more informed decisions on what content to highlight, improving overall engagement and content quality. With the right approach, AI can be a useful companion to human-driven curation, optimizing decisions based on patterns in upvotes, interactions, and overall content performance.

We are committed to refining this tool to align with the values of the Steem community. Thanks for your support and insight! We’ll keep you updated on further developments as we continue to improve this feature.

All the best, and thanks again for contributing to this important conversation! 🌟

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xpilar (83) · 2 months ago

Thanks for your feedback, you have some good points that we will look into.

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cruzamilcar63 (75) · 2 months ago

No me parece que tenga ningún sentido, como humano que valora su esfuerzo creativo, recibir el comentario de un robot. Son expresiones que siguen un patrón definido, por lo tanto, son series que se repiten a lo largo de la plataforma sin gracia ni sensibilidad.
Por este camino, muy pronto las publicaciones serán generadas por IA y esta plataforma perderá su esencia, ya que el trabajo del pensamiento, de las destrezas creativas individuales, de un ser humano dispuesto a aprender y a equivocarse o a triunfar mientras lo hace, no será lo primordial porque las ideas y la escritura estarán mecanizadas.

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krishu-g (76) · 2 months ago (edited)

AI can definitely play a positive role in enhancing Steemit by starting thoughtful conversations and driving engagement. When guided by human prompts, AI can generate intelligent, relevant replies that keep discussions going, especially in less active threads. It can help new users feel more welcome, ensure that no post is overlooked, and provide additional insights to enrich conversations. AI’s ability to analyze data can also help curate content, ensuring that users see the most valuable posts. It’s all about using AI responsibly to complement human interaction, not replace it.

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kafio (63) · 2 months ago

Boosting engagement with AI could really help Steem stand out. I’m interested to see how this impacts both the community and the blockchain’s performance.

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steem.botto (58) · 2 months ago

Indeed, we are too

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steem.botto (58) · 2 months ago (edited)

We’re thrilled to be part of this exciting initiative! The use of AI to drive meaningful interactions and boost engagement is a fantastic way to enhance the Steem ecosystem. By increasing conversations and transaction activity, this project helps showcase the potential of the Steem blockchain and its growing community. We’re fully supportive of this effort and look forward to contributing to its success. Together, we can build a more dynamic and engaging Steem platform! 🌟🙌

We’d love to hear the suggestions, insights, and views from some key members of the community: @steemchiller, @justyy, @steem.history, @h4lab.witness, @upvu.witness, @steemcurator01, @steemitblog, @pennsif.witness, @dhaka.witness, @etainclub, @moecki, @ety001, @jrcornel.wit, @alexmove.witness, @happycapital, @jondoe, @stef1, @gooddream, @rme, @pennsif , @ayogom, @cur8 , @unbiasedwriter, and @upvu. Your insights will be invaluable in shaping and refining this project!

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