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Never Forget - On Holocaust Memorial Day
6 years ago by steevc (73)
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Those who lived through those horrific events said never again. However as you see around the world more and more focus is being put on self interest and demonising the "others". Current state of affairs around the world is worrying sign that we might be heading into our own Gilead :(
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Yeah one needs only look at the Concentration like situation in the Gaza.
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A great post Steve , not a merry one ,but one of huge necessity right now , especially with Europe being plagued with Nazi apologists . It saddens me to see it spreading like virus all over again , after seeing for ourselves the end results of such ideologies ...
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It's concerning indeed!
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Very powerful. I remember I had a hard time reading the post that @slobberchops wrote when he visited during Steemfest. It was difficult just looking at the pictures. Glad you were able to take a sobering visit to this place with your family.
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She is Nanette Blitz Konig, Anne Frank's friend and holocaust survivor, and her husband John Konig, in Sinagoga Sem Fronteiras, 2019 in Sao Paulo Brazil.
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Am Yisrael Chai!
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I guess there are not so many of them left now. We have to keep that memory alive for them.
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Thanks for the post Steve. I also visited Sachsenhausen a year ago and found it rather harrowing. Like you, even allowing for the media hype, I found that survey quite staggering. I immediately asked my two children (25, 23) and they knew what the Holocaust was and the numbers involved.
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It seems especially important now that we make sure people do know what happened. It's a grim place.
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It was cold in Krakow but Berlin... now that is a cold place. I haven't heard of this camp before, but I bet it was really grim.
They took extreme measures in Aushchwitz when it came to security and to keep he nature of what happened there and free from anyone seeking to destroy it. Was it the same there?
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Many visitors try to nick bits of the camp. They get caught and are facing charges. Auschwitz is a memorial and a lot of care is being taken to persist the memory of what a man can do to a man. It's especially important now when people seem to have forgotten and prefer looking away to standing against the evil.
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It was surprisingly open. You could just walk in and look around. Very few staff, but they must have someone keeping an eye on things.
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Thank you for writing about this. These are difficult things to talk and think about, but it is important that we do.
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As I said, I wasn't sure I wanted to blog about it, but the the news I saw today made me think I should.
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It is important to have those places.
I live just 1km away from a place were "lunatic" people were gassed. I stood there in the room, still the old "shower" heads...
It's insane what people can do.
I wish all the US wall fans would go visit the Berlin Wall and watch the films
A wall never solves problems.
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They want to divide us, but we are stronger when we reach across borders.
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We are also stronger when we secure our borders. People make it sound like the US is closing itself off lol. Not at all. We're trying to slow down the 6000 illegals that come in undetected everyday. Its a real problem here.
The US admits more immigrants than any country in the world. And will continue to. Despite how much i oppose it at this point in time.
@steevc youre lucky in britain, youre surrounded by water and dont need a wall or even border security for that matter. Unless you guys wanna wall off Ireland or something. :P
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The wall won't make that much difference from what I have heard. It's a typical 'simple solution'. We have our own immigrant issues, but we need to do more about what people are running from.
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The wall is just the talking point that all the opposition uses as their counter argument. Trump's plan includes far more than a wall, the wall is just a part of it and an additional barrier to entry. The plan also includes more border agents, more judges to speed up immigration and refugee cases, security technologies, and more.
People argue against the wall use weak fallacies to support their case. Most often the nirvana fallacy. "The wall won't stop everyone" "40% of illegals overstay their visas" etc. Just because it isn't an all-in-one solution to the whole problem doesn't mean we shouldn't have it. It's just one piece of a bigger plan. All of which was supported by the Democrats until Trujmp came to office. That's the most amazing part. Every Democrat in office before Trump was elected voted for a wall and additional border security. Now, that Trump is pursuing it, they don't want it anymore for some strange reason.
And you can only do so much about what the migrants are running from without being an occupier or subverting them. There's a reason some countries are terrible and it's not our jobs to fix them. We can't be responsible for the world especially given the many problems we have right at our front doors. Like our $20 trillion of debt and $100+ trillion of unfunded liabilities.
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Well that is not what this post was about. Please take your arguments elsewhere.
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I was just responding to the reaching across borders comment. It sounds nice, but it's not always the case.
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Those on the other side are people too. Nationality is just an accident of birth.
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The Berlin wall was a wall sieging an entire half of a city. Fully encircled.
Our border wall is nothing similar at all. Not even close lol.
2 completely different things under completely different circumstances. To say one is like the other is a childish understanding of both walls.
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The "Wall" was mainly a several hundred km long fence. Very similar to Trump's wall.
And what is the difference in circumstances? Both are there to prevent people crossing it from one side to the other.
Okay, in Germany people would not die of thirst if border guards destroy hidden stashes of water, that is a true difference.
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The wall in germany surrounded the entirety of west Berlin. The allies had to fly in EVERYTHING to keep people alive there. Even the coal for electricity.
The difference in circumstances is that one was done by the communists as a war tactic to collapse western presence in Berlin since Berlin was deep in Eastern Germany/Soviet territory. While the other is to keep people who are not citizens of a country out where they are coming in ever single day. About 6000 people illegally crossing per day.
If you cant see the difference between the two, youre either lying or really stupid. Even just the premise of both walls is different. One was to keep people in the other is to keep people out lol.
And in Germany they wouldve died if it wasnt for Americans keeping them alive. Those border guards should destroy the water stashes. If they dont, then they're helping to aid criminals.
Is the wall around Israel bad? Its working pretty well there.
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Please take this elsewhere. This post is not about Trump or America.
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Dear Steve, I really appreciate your post about the holocaust memorial day. I never visited a concentration camp and I can't image the strong sensations I could feel visiting one of them. Years ago I visited the Jewish Quarter in Prague (the Josefov) where there is a very tounching museum in memory of people who never came back at home from the concentration camps. I was with my daughter and we were really touched watching all the objects of a lot of little ones. A registered voice said all the names of the people and it was really difficult don't cry.
Here in Italy today there were a lot of events for the holocaust memorial day and it's a good sign, because all of us need to remember how many horrible things the men can do when the men hate an entire culture. So sad, but we need (we always need) to remember the holocaust to not repeat the same.
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I did cry on this visit. It's all too much to take in. The Germans have done a lot to ensure the events are not forgotten, but they have some nasty people trying to get more control.
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Sadly, also here there are some nasty people and thanks to the new government they think to be more "strong" than before, but they are in wrong, because fortunately there are more good people than nasty people.
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Suppose, just for a moment, that some of the Holocaust Deniers are right about the numbers being exaggerated, and only 600,000 (10% of the 6 million reported) Jews were murdered. Does this lower number somehow make ethnic cleansing less atrocious? What if it were only 60,000? Does this somehow turn mass murder into something less evil? And then there are the homosexuals, political dissidents, Gypsies, Slavs, and other groups who were also slaughtered wholesale by a regime bent on genetic pseudoscience. Their deaths are already being hand-waved away by many as well.
Strange that people are so bent upon worshiping political power and the mythology of man that they will dismiss mass destruction by imagining it was somehow less evil if there was slightly less of it. I suppose this is why some prefer to imagine the Holocaust never happened in the first place. It's easier to intellectually justify authoritarianism if you turn a blind eye to its inevitable consequences.
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There have been mass killings through history and comparing or arguing about numbers is pointless. I'm British and we have some crimes on our conscience too. I can't verify for myself how many the Nazis killed, but they were such bureaucrats that I expect it can be worked out pretty accurately. Those who manipulate populations into cruelty are very devious and we have to keep an eye on them.
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Don't collectivise yourself with the British government. They don't represent you. What they do with the wealth they plunder from your economy is not your fault. There is no "we" in politics unless you are embedded in the political system.
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Nice!
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