Wow...another huge lie Troy Reid. You said off grid for under 5k and that was 5 years ago !! How much did the tiny house on wheels cost? For all of the propane to heat the house? For the propane heater to heat the house? For all of the solar stuff? For all the other stuff you bought? And i am not even scratching the surface. You did not say, 5 years ago, how to set up solar power for under 5k. You are such a lying scumbag. Nothing you say can be believed. From the time you started tour - get off the grid for 5k - you have probably spent well over 100k - of other peoples money - you lying,. cheating scumbag.