Hello @pennsif, we are homesteaders, preppers, and we are working our way to being more and more self-sufficient each day. I was off-grid in the early 80's to late 80's. Owned farms in 3 different states. Recently down graded to a smaller living area with less land, and less animals. We have a 2 year plan to save so we can live completely off grid in two locations, debt free. We live in Ohio.