RE: US House of Representatives Passes "Russian Propaganda" Bill targeting "Fake News" Websites

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US House of Representatives Passes "Russian Propaganda" Bill targeting "Fake News" Websites

in hr6393 •  8 years ago 

way worse. it turned out that mccarthy was right.

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True story, the book Blacklisted by History lays out the course of events of that time very well, IMO. Lot's of dry Congressional record excerpts that paint the opposite picture of what most people think McCarthy did and who he was.. Also confirmed some by the Venona project disclosures.

thanks for the references. i'll look them up.

declassification of Venona and the temporary opening of Soviet archives proved that McCarthy was mostly right. See Haynes & Klehr In Denial for discussion of academia's dishonest insistence that there were no traitors.

Too bad that McCarthy WAS a drunk and an egomaniac...he did more damage to the anti-communist cause than he did good.

this is also true. unfortunately it is almost always true. people who are drawn to government rarely are happy with only filling their addiction to power. other addictions are almost always present, such as alcoholism and egomania. Nixon was also seeing communists everywhere, look what happened to him. still, the US and British governments were both shot through with communists, to near the highest levels. most of the planks in the communist platform have been fulfilled in the US today.

There are pretty much always people infiltrating. That does not make him right. He was seeing it everywhere. Hell even the "one nation under God" was added to the pledge during that era (1954) in an attempt to fight communism.

Yet now we have a population that is often yelling for communism and bashing capitalism, and pushing for stopping "fake news", and rioting over words rather than actual acts.

Very topsy turvy world.

it looks to me that most people, these days are adherents to communism, and are even unaware.
most of the planks in the communist platform have been put in place decades ago, and what is happening now is just, mopping up.

It depends upon where you are at. In places where communism was historically tried it is not popular at all. It is definitely becoming popular in places that historically fought it. Though that is NOT because it has suddenly become a good idea.

It is because they really don't teach critical thinking to people. Without that in education people tend to be lead around more by emotions and what feels good. "That person is hurting, we should make the government help them", "Education is too expensive, we should make it free", "Everyone should pitch in, and all resources are shared". All of these things functionally end up having REALLY big problems with rushing in emotionally and because it feels good. Yet most people are clueless of this.

Also while they do teach some history in school it is a pretty piss poor job of it when you get down to it. They barely touch on many topics.

The for example do not cover the fact that these arguments have occurred many times before. They do not cover with any detail what happens when these things are tried.

Those who do not know history are doomed to make the same mistakes.

What you are describing definitely fits into that.

So the McCarthyism era Communist movement FAILED. It took some time after that and the actual people pushing for it back then are now Capitalist, and our country and many others are embracing Communism and Socialism like the feel good solution to the things they don't like.

Yet they know squat about economics, resource chains, etc. They just treat it like a magic pill. It is a fairy tale. Yet due to the lack of critical thinking it is emotions that are in the drivers seat for most of the population.

Throw into that giving every child a participation trophy and other acts of increasing entitlement and it paints a very FAKE picture of reality. When reality does not behave the way the entitled want they can whine about it and post videos crying demanding reality change.

sounds pretty accurate to me. critical thinking seems to be the key. my question is how to make it a desirable option. how can learning and thinking be incentivized in the minds of people who do not already see its value?