Indian Bitcoin Exchanges Face GST Conundrum!

in india •  7 years ago  (edited)

Bitcoin exchanges in India are in a state of confusion if Goods and Services Tax (GST) applicable on their businesses or not. If they are indeed applicable, then what is the correct rate of tax?

This comes in light of the fact that recently, Koinex-one of the few alt-coin exchanges in India revised their fees in the midst of an outcry by many of its users. They increased their fees to 2.36% (inclusive of GST) on withdrawals which until now were free. On various FB crypto-groups there have been hue and cry over this unexpected increase.


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Seven of the top exchanges from the country have approached AAR (Advanced Authority of Ruling) to clear this conundrum. AAR is a quasi-judicial body which can assist in deciding the applicability of GST on exchanges operating in India.

I’ve reported recently that Bitcoin exchanges have been targeted by the Income Tax officials and over 500,000 HNI’s were sent notices. This is the latest development in terms of taxation around Bitcoin.

If AAR decides that GST is applicable then it would be a good step forward towards regulating this market in India. Currently most Indian exchanges operate with a high margin of about 20%. If AAR were to define the applicable GST, then it may also be required to define the category for cryptocurrencies as goods, services or currency. Will the GST slab be set at 12% or 18%? Will it be applicable on the entire revenue or only margins/fees? Many of these questions are yet to be answered!

It’s a well known fact that Bitcoin exchanges in India earn their revenues through commission on trades, price-arbitrate and transaction fees. Some exchanges such as Zebpay and Unocoin keep huge margins between buy and sell prices. As per the report on Economic Times-It’s possible that these exchanges may not have paid adequate VAT or sales tax to the authorities. But then again there is so much ambiguity on taxations surrounding cryptos-for both individuals and corporates.

It’s unlikely that we’ll see a resolution soon. But, this hasn’t deterred people in India from investing in cryptos. Exchanges are flooded with new user signup requests and they are unable to cope up with the KYC-which is mandatory as per govt rules.

Hopefully, AAR will come through on Indian exchange request for regulating the tax structure and making easier and safer for everyone to transact and trade. No matter which direction the ruling goes, crypto is here to stay in India and it will continue to thrive!


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Centralized exchanges are open invitations to lose your crypto.

I agree! More people need to use DEX over highly centralised ones. Also, India needs more exchanges that operate with transparency. Most are just dealers with exorbitant spreads! :(

@firepower The entire idea behind bitcoin is decentralisation. Imposing taxes on cryptocurrencies kills the very purpose. Zebpay, itself is imposing 18% GST on Deposits. The solution is to buy everything in cash on local bitcoins and transfer it to foreign exchanges or a paper wallet. It's the safest bet for now.

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@firepower what do you think the Indian govt's stance will be? will they go towards banning crypto trading in the country like they don't allow forex trading and non-indian derivatives trading?

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I hope soon government will find better solutions for it.

As I am a freelancer, can you suggest me how will I pay taxes if I sell my bitcoins.

I overheard that sooner or later Indian Authorities might not legalize Bitcoins along with other cryptocurrencies. I haven't heard that Government has declared it as illegal trading nor did it say legal to use.

Now, just for an example, in near future, authorities decide to shut down all exchanges and other activities on these digital coins, then what would happen with the invoice receipt at the time of investing money to the exchanges with GST and all. If CRYTOS are of Illegal trading then why pay TAX to Govt or why the hell GOVT. taking TAX on illegal products.

I think government will enjoy the GST and income tax for couple of years. Till then most of the countries will have their cryptocurrency regulations in place. India will simply mix and match them to comeup with their own regulations. They definitely can't keep Indians away from a world wide revolution.

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I personally hate the name TAX wherever I see it.

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I agree! All the more individuals requirement to utilize DEX over Exceedingly brought together ones. Also, india needs additional exchanges that work with transparency. The vast majority are simply dealers for over the top spreads :(

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Our govt is in state of confusion actually. at one point of time they said don't deal in bitcoin, its scam, used in terrorist activities. They didn't said its illegal but indirectly they said the same and to some commodity which the govt is trying to declare illegal and regulating the currency is totally reverse of it. So govt is confused should we declare it illegal in India or should we collect taxes from it.

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It's a step to regulating it as a legitimate source of income and legitimate currencies and that is only going to bring in more people into the market than there already are. I think this is a great step to bringing our country forward in yet another industry because the people here only either believe word of mouth, or what they see on TV and I think this is definitely news everywhere in the world right now. And India is only moving steps ahead.

Legitimizing this is definitely going to make this country something more than it already is.

Great post though mate.

That is why we need more decentralized exchanges :)

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I guess we will see something similar in the west...

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I hope the state at which bitcoin is in India will not create a problem in other countries that has invested in bitcoin.

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This is an outrage !! First they won't allow us to trade bitcoin legally, then they are taking our bitcoin earnings and now they want to freaking add GST ??? Like income tax and other stupid taxes weren't enough then they add 20 to 30 percent tax on bitcoin, now they are wanting to add another 12 to 18 percent ? Have they ever used the tax money for anything good ? Seriously is this even a free Democratic country or a totalitarian state ? I better plan to move to another country soon. At this rate there is no hope for growth in India.

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2% fee I think is too much. Good thing other exchanges are kind enough to make it as low as possible.

I'm reading your posts about situation in India and always compare it with my country. I feel really sorry about that and i'm afraid that soon or later it will be here as well:(((. Our government is hungry for money so i no doubt that they are thinking already how to get our crypto 😒😒😒. Such a pity that we can't escape somewhere far away from them all and create our own world 🙄😁😁.

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Hay nice post by the way. I agree that the tax must be regulate by your country next time. But i think the tax not more 1-2%. If tax more than 2% it makes trader feel bad to get profit.

This is an eyes opener on the situation of Bitcon in India with respect to their economy. To stablize the economy india AAR needs to find a balance between their exchange rate because their are still high demand of people going into crypto. An economy team must be put in place to annex the problem

Heard rumours that Russia and China or Japan wants to ban BTC

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always the government agencies will want an apportion of money, not only in their country, in any part of the world
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This is going to be a chicken and egg problem as first AAR will have to define what cryptos are. It seems there is a committee of parliament members or experts are working on the definition.

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People are saying that 1-2% is too much tax. It looks like the USA is going to be treating crypto gains as real property gains which would be regular income. That would be if you're in the lowest income bracket that you would pay 12% tax. If you're in the higher brackets you can be paying 30+%.

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Government are doing their best to get hold of at least small percentage of crypto currencies enthusiasts.

Imposing tax burdens ia not the right way, it will lead to lack of interest by those who barely follow up with cryptos.

However, I hope things get better soon.

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After tax, can bitcoin still profit in those country?

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Thanks for keep us up to date with the Indian situation!

I think governments are going to push this as far as they can, because it is the easiest money they can steal! ITs very hard to take from the rich because they have power. It is very hard to take more from the poor as they have almost nothing left and will protest.. But, it is so easy to take from crypto winners with least resistance!

I think that this will just push people toward anonymous exchanges and private cash/gold trading. It's not hard to imagine a huge black market in India. When tax gets too extreme people will be put off and in the end Modi will lose out. Hopefully people resist complying, because its only then that they may back down.

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The regulatory and tax backwash is real!

Trading in cryotos is tough in India, in general. The wallets don't necessarily track the global Bitcoin price accurately. Unocoin has a very dicey reputation (I was one of those affected, when they arbitrarily changed their terms and conditions and withdrew free bitcoins they had distributed as a promotion offering).
I don't think that bitcoin trading will be banned, but the government isn't for it, which means it will be heavily taxed at some point.

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Much as an Indian crypto investor like me would hate an 18% slab of GST, it's better to have a defined rate and I'm looking forward to government taxation rules coming for crypto to get rid of this ambiguity!

Best case scenario would be just a flat capital gains tax - 30% short term and 20% long term. Applicable for actual gains in Indian Rupees.

it becomes more and more confusing topic. whatever our gourvenment take step people keep investing and trading in crypto at the moment and hope they give good solution because most of people have halg knowlede of it and need some clear call from gourvment and i also had less knowledge but from one you post give me a lots of answers so thanks for it.

All these news you shared, and then the news about the visa cards issued by Wave Crest Holdings, wild west, as always..

Again like your previous article has already said, policies need be in place which is missing . Politicians and the bureaucracy need to be more pro to technology and implement them rather than banning and going stoneage.
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