So, we've seen that most #ClimateChange "science" is complete BS... Why is the agenda being pushed? And by whom?

kennyskitchen (72) in informationwar • 6 years ago (edited)

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tibra (58) · 6 years ago

Personal responsibility is the only way to fix any problems. Especially complex problems of the future whatever they may be — exactly!

For example, nobody designs, except by accident, programs and hardware in a centralized fashion, but goes for decentralized, self timed message passing! And unlike in nature programmers and engineers have complete control over the materials which they form and with which they operate.

Yet most institutional actors dedicate themselves, first of all, exclusively, to the hammer of centralized, bureaucratic entities. So they try to find plausible missions for such centralized, bureaucratic entities. — Why?

There's just no easy money for organizers in decentralized solutions — precisely because these solutions are so decentralized. Only after deciding that centralized solutions are the answer to everything and anything that may have an answer do most past, present, and future big operators look for particular problems to solve.

And the result is what? They gravitate towards nails of all the same kind, — nails which to the representative consumer who's busy, poorly educated, and therefore doesn't think very much and doesn't like thinking, appear plausibly to require centralized solutions. — And the unorganized majority does not object. They remain unorganized — a mass — not a majority — when things start to move. So things move (the wrong things move), the big operators collect, nothing really changes (other than for the worse), and more prospective big operators see opportunity to do more of the same.

Meanwhile centralized institutions, basically harmful except when useful by bizarre accident, accumulate and accumulate and accumulate.

(Ultimately the only majorities are organized minorities. Not easy to organize a larger than certain size group of people — especially those who're busy and already accept premises hand wavingly thrown their way by their prospective opponents should they ever organize.)

This is one lens through which to look at some of the proposals thrown around in politics and even in industry.

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alaisguineasis (56) · 6 years ago (edited)

Yes! Complete bull shit they are!!
Nature has an omnibus INFALLIBLE method of CLIMATIC RESTORATION!!

Notwithstanding that, We should not be complacent to CONCIOUSLY destroy Nature!!

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eco-alex (73) · 6 years ago

incredible.. the truth is like a blade of grass in a field... There are so many issues tied up in the climate change debate.. for me, no matter where the truth does lie,, and am open to believing this even though i have promoted carbon footprinting for years.. is that we need the changes you have said.. and we need them for SO many reasons.

thank you for doing the work to find and pluck this blade of truth out .. and share it with us.. maybe trump isn't such a douche bag after all! lool. (this weeks qotw is on him!)
<3

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kennyskitchen (72) · 6 years ago

There really are, and most of the voices screaming about any of those issues seem to fall into two camps: the financially invested & the appealing to authority without any research or critical thought.

I don't think we can possibly know the exact correlations & causations between our actions and the environment around us, but I can say that more personal responsibility (freedom) and less outsourcing of responsibility (government) is always the right direction :-)

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minnowsupport (70) · 6 years ago

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riverflows (72) · 6 years ago

I will NEVER forget having to stand in the shallows of a DEAD coral reef in Asia because I had no other choice, when an American starting SCREAMING AT ME for doing so. My hubby yelled back at her 'Yeah, says an American.. what about fucking IRAQ!'. Whilst of course it may not have been best approach in saying American military is responsible for so much fucked upness, it reinforces the idea about perspective and lack of imagination. My standing on dead.coral in two inches of coral wasnt causing harm at all.

I am reminded of apigraha in yogic thought. If we could reduce greed and make everything we do thoughtful and mindful, we wouldnt even be having an argument about climate change.

A wonderful post... resteeming.

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likedeeler (66) · 6 years ago (edited)

@riverflows
I would like to know where you got the term apigraha from, because in my, and Patanjali´s, book it is अपरिग्रह, so aparigraha. Another copy&paste desaster? 😘

अहिंसासत्यास्तेय ब्रह्मचर्यापरिग्रहाः यमाः - Yoga Sutra 2.30

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riverflows (72) · 6 years ago (edited)

Just a typo lovely ...of course I meant that...just as you meant 'disaster'... am so tired today...xxx Thankyou for picking it up...

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likedeeler (66) · 6 years ago

Desaster is the word and spelling in German, got in the way somehow. 😉

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astrodreamteam (39) · 6 years ago

Hi there! Great post, and an extensive one. Various industries (I would dare to say capitalism) are driving the planet to a brink where it will react , and all these factors that you mentioned (especially military & war) can influence the planet climate dramatically. There are many factors that are in correlation with the temperature rise, for example the melting of permafrost also causes the release of CO2 and methane, which responds gradually with temperature increase, which in return melts the permafrost at an even higher rate. I just hope we don't get to the point of no return. God bless and don't listen to the broken system but to the principles built into our DNA! May the nuclear force hold us together :)

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frogman18 (48) · 6 years ago

You are even more intense than I am. Its a pity that 'climate change' is so entrenched in many governments, that it appears to take on the form of a religion. I wonder who the arch-bishop is pulling the strings?

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kennyskitchen (72) · 6 years ago

It certainly is one of the driving points of the religion of scientism. If there is any one or just a couple behind it, they're probably the same ones always behind these big, clunky, expensive lies. I really think more and more that these things are more just natural manifestations of such a screwy socio-economic structure.

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kevinsarpei (40) · 6 years ago

There's a typo here: "He has never published a scientific paper, and many will say the he has 6 PhDs..."

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kennyskitchen (72) · 6 years ago

Thanks for catching that!

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hajijah36 (53) · 6 years ago

AHO!

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twotoedsloth (63) · 6 years ago

This is a very thought out and informative article. I appreciate the credible sources you've provided along with an insightful argument. I do believe that the media itself is a very scary tool in that it can validate and also invalidate certified research, with the intention of pushing their own agenda.

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ann-narkeh (42) · 6 years ago

Hi, @kennyskitchen - @elamental recommended I read this, I wrote a thing in response.
Hope you like it.
https://steemit.com/blog/@ann-narkeh/co2sensus-a-response-to-kennyskitchen-and-elamental

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ganjafarmer (69) · 6 years ago

Just one thing...
.going vegan doesn't matter.

Now how about the extinction attempt of the herds of buffalo and the game of the American West? Huge numbers...

Well animal waste management has something you missed. You can capture and store methane and boom. Burns and is able to produce renewable energy.....

Good idea for a post. Thanks!

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kennyskitchen (72) · 6 years ago

going vegan doesn't matter

It matters for my health, it matters because I am not paying to support deforestation, and most importantly it matters because imprisonment, rape, and murder are wrong, no matter the species.

You can capture and store methane and boom.

I am well aware that it is possible to capture methane and use it for rocket-mass systems, I've worked on permaculture projects that included that; but it's not happening on anything but the tiniest scale, and the "animal agriculture" industry has no intention/plans to implement it, so it isn't really relevant when talking about at-scale solutions.

It also still doesn't address the moral, health, or other environmental facets.

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ganjafarmer (69) · 6 years ago

Still floored at this rape thing...

So where are these sexual assaults happening? Unaware that this is a thing. Let's see some evidence?

And uneducated vegans who have a way of twisting the facts are definitely a problem.

And honestly buying from monocrop industrial farming does more damage to the environment than all of the good you claim to be making.

Think you miss the point that manure is the best and natural way to enrich the soil...

Most of human history we have lived in balance and had some great ways of living in balance.

Sorry but again just from your tone and reply I find that you seem to think you have all the answers and really dismissed my opinion for your own ego.

Wow. Ha.

Yeah this idea that your dietary preference makes you better than others or a more aware person? No it's just your ego.

Kinda floored but whatever. Go think as you will.

But honestly? I just lost some mad respect for you. Hope you understand.

Peace!

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jonyoudyer (64) · 6 years ago

one thing as a person who still eats meat, but recognize i have to change my diet to a full plant diet, it's so hard! Ive been addicted to it all! But I fell eating meat is the hardest addiction to break. Its like im brainwashed to think when i eat a meal, a meat has to be the main dish. But this is all from being brainwashed. With campaigns like GotMilk? BEEF! Its whats for dinner, its so hard not to be. How did you break your addiction?

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eaglespirit (66) · 6 years ago

woohoo tell it brother, tell it! just got wind of this post through ET!! as a native american water protector and one that loves Tucker this post made my day. loved it and thank you.

blessings,
eagle spirit

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