RE: good article on gun control and why its totally useless

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good article on gun control and why its totally useless

in informationwar •  5 years ago 

im wondering where you get your facts

From a multitude of scientific studies, as usual.
Not that ther ereally is a need for this because the statistics are openly available, but the studie generally compare to other countries, so it's a lot easier.

Just google!

Then you can find e.g. the following:

Only 4 percent of the world’s people live in the United States, but Americans make up a full third of the people worldwide who die by gun suicide each year.

Suicide is not the same as murder, but it follows the same rules: The less available, the less death (and since every other type of suicide is harder, there are less suicides).

Or how aobut that?

Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does

Only cars kill more, and here we are talking about car country #1 in the world!

if someone obtained his license legally and shot people up gun control did not work
if someone obtained their gun illigally and shot a place up again gun control did not work

You have ifs there. We from IT call that a condition. So let's use common sense for a condition.

If (many) people cannot get a license legally, most of them won't get guns and wont shot people.
(Also there are less guns available illegally.)

If you cannot get your gun illegally, you cannot kill people with the nonexistant gun.

And no, "just get it illegally" is NOT easy if you are in a country with even moderately strict gun laws.
For example the last terrorist attack here in Germany (just 100km away from me) was done by a right wing nut attacking a synagoge.
He could not get his hand on "real" guns, so he used printed and self made ones.
Those failed after a few shots and he "only" could kill 2 people.

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the swiss everybody has guns and there is hardly any crime there so ki dont really know what your talking about
in serbia and croatia everyone had guns and before NATO and the banksters involved themselves there it was hardly any crime there also

in saying that i agree the world would be a lot more better place without guns but nobody should ever get rid of them until politicians and cops get rid of theirs first and that is just for starters my friend

and they dont keep stats on the stories that guns saved peoples lives
lots of your stats are skewed but that is their grand design
there is thousands that are alive today because they had a firearm or someone protected them with one
mostly women getting raped and people robbing banks that citizens had firearms and saved the dirty banks from being robbed
have a great day bud but the only way i would agree to disarm if it started with the politicians and cops first otherwise we will be defenseless.
cheers

the swiss everybody has guns and there is hardly any crime there so ki dont really know what your talking about

Yes, but the vast majority of those guns is because men are required to keep their gun at home after their army training.
Safely locked and because there are less gun nuts, seldom taken out there.

and they dont keep stats on the stories that guns saved peoples lives
Because guns don't do it? Isn't that the mantra: It's not the guns, it's the people holding them?
But putting the jokes aside, for every life "saved" by a gun, there are dozens lost.

there is thousands that are alive today because they had a firearm
And hundred thousands are dead because someone had a firearm.
Guns killed more people in the US after WW II than in it. Just think about it.

with the politicians and cops first otherwise we will be defenseless.

Yeah, that strange, silly argument.
First of all politicians very seldom go into your home and point a gun at you, do they?
Second, the police is not the thing you should worry about. You can quite easily beat the police when "we the people".
What you should be worried about is the military. That are the guys who came with tank after you if you have a gun.
Or drop a bomb on you if you happened to hide a anti tank gun.
If the state wants to really get you, no gun will save you. Ergo that argument is invalid for the point of keeping guns.