Epstein arrest and Trump: Narratives

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The basics? A trafficker in underage women (13-16) was re-arrested 4 years after Obama's DOJ and Mueller's FBI cut him a sweetheart plea bargain. The plea bargain was vacated just now. The trafficker, Epstein, has major ties to the democrats and hollyweird. Epstein has particularly close ties to the Clintons, both financially via the Clinton Foundation and personally as Bill visited Epstein's "Lolita Island" over 27 times.

There are rumors that Epstein had wired his empire for sound and video intended for blackmail purpose; other rumors are that younger children and violence against them were involved.

For a disgustingly humorous look at Epstein's case, read Epstein's lawyers claim that a purple jelly dildo is instead a "broken salad fork" in the deposition (Epstein vs. Edwards, Case No.: 50 2009 CA 040800XXXXMBAG ), p33-36.

For a rather unfunny look at the undisputed facts of the case, see Appendix C of the case

Sexual Abuse of Children By Epstein
1 . Defendant Epstein has a sexual preference for young children. Deposition of Jeffrey
Epstein, Mar. 17, 2010, at 110 (hereinafter "Epstein Depo.") (Deposition Attachment #1) 2. Epstein repeatedly sexually assaulted more than forty (40) young girls on numerous occasions

Trump foretold this issue

One viewpoint is that there is a democrat civil war raging, and this could be considered a nuclear strike against the Clintons

Other democrats are certainly hurling the Clintons under the bus as quickly as the Clintons have hurled their own foes:

Bill Clinton ditched Secret Service on multiple 'Lolita Express' flights

There was some speculation that when Weinstein was exposed under the metoo campaign, that was also an attack on Clinton donors

This issue will go past the Clintons

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1147687768526589953

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Jeffrey Epstein: inside the decade of scandal entangling Prince Andrew

This issue may reach into Hollyweird

NXIVM Connection

A second Hollyweird link is the NXIVM cult
Raniere snitched for less time and gave up Epstein.
Epstein probably won't snitch, but, he won't have to.

A 4chan theory

Word is Anthony wieners laptop is evidence. ANd helped take down nxvm sex cult. Wieners wife is an Iranian advisor to Hillary during her sec state. Nxvm is a sex cult. Kieth Rainer the “leader” was found guilty a few weeks ago on all counts. Seems as though wieners laptop which had nudes to teen girls implicated nxvm and also had evidence of Clinton sex crimes against children. It’s all a big web of fuckery. However there was evidence of Hilary’s private server emails on the laptop supposidly. So basically everyone’s fucked on all counts that are about to be pending. I’m not sure if I explained it good but this shit activates my almonds

Which takes us back to the Clintons...

Mueller's FBI

Trump connections to Epstein

The DOJ opened an investigation into the handling of Epstein's case at the beginning of this year. See Fox News and The Miami Herald.

The Miami herald also has a 12 minute video explaining how the sweetheart deal was arranged watch here.

Trump's Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta was recently forced out over his role as the prosecutor in Epstein's case (tried in Miami).

He had secretly negotiated Epstein's ridiculous sweetheart "Powerful Democrats Only" plea bargain, while Mueller's FBI investigators lied to the victims, telling them the case was still open, and denying them even so much as the ability to enter victim impact statements.

The judge (Kenneth Maria, South District, FL) ruled that the whole thing violated the Crime Victims' Rights Act, and overturned the plea, meaning it could be tried in another district, in this case NY.

Another 4chan theory

I smell a setup. SDNY hates Trump with a passion. Comey's daughter is part of prosecurtion.

I think this is possible; however, looking back at Trump's campaign statement (first video), and looking at the evidence below, I don't think it likely, or even likely to work if so.

Fusion GPS Tried And Failed To Link Trump To Jeffrey Epstein

Trump knew what Epstein was up to "he's a fun guy, likes his girls young, really really young". People held that against him as if it were some form of agreement when in fact, in typical Trump fashion he slapped Epstein publicly..iron fist in velvet glove.

Trump was also named in a civil suit Donald Trump & Jeffrey Epstein Rape Lawsuit and Affidavits at the same time as the other harrasment suits were launched against him during the campaign, which was dropped along with the other false charges.

But I think the most obvious debunking of the Trump-Epstein connection is the Flight manifests to Pedo Island, which has a lack of "Trumps" in it's logs.

Let us also hear out Edwards, the lawyer who has represented the rape victims since 2008

"There is no debate over what happened," Edwards told VICE news. "I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can't imagine there being any dispute of any of this."
Edwards also said that it is "obvious" Trump himself was not involved in any of Epstein's illicit activity.

Maxwell fled the United States on the eve of her deposition and never testified in Epstein's case. In fact, several of the Jane Doe lawyers, who spoke off the record because the case is ongoing, said that every key person investigators wanted to interview — especially those with potential knowledge of what took place on St. James Island — eluded subpoenas on technical grounds.
There was one exception: Donald Trump.

the only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I was going that I wanted to talk to them he is the only person who picked up the phone and said let's just talk I'll give you as much time as you want I'll tell you what you need to know and was very helpful in the information that he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever but had good information that checked out and that helped us and that we didn't have to take a deposition of him.

Mike Cernovich points out that the fakenews did not cover the Epstein until they found the limited Trump connection.

When Acosta went before the Senate, the media didn't cover it much and Democrats hardly "grilled him."

Trump and Human Trafficking

The White House site, President Donald J. Trump Is Taking Action to End Human Trafficking outlines the administration's stance on this issue, which is reinforced by:
The number of arrests made by this admin, compared to the precious one,

and by this Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

This Executive Order plays heavily in an article I wrote two years ago:
A legal path to prosecution of the Deep State conspiracy - Military tribunals

The final thought


Interview: Jeanine Pirro with Donald Trump on Justice With Judge Jeanine on Fox - January 12, 2019

It’s -- you know, it's one of those things, but I love doing it, the whole thing. But this will turn out to be very important because people are going to be exposed that nobody ever thought possible.

However, we should make sure we hold Trump to his Tweet of 2012

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I cannot fault your motivations, and neither your principles, but only wish I could share your optimism. Numerous indications of insuperable corruption prevent my consideration that Trump has any non-political motivations in this matter. It is impossible to reasonably expect competent individuals contesting power to not undertake to present evidence of their moral principles, and fail to acknowledge that practically ubiquitously all such parties have misrepresented those principles and themselves, and further that Trump has himself done so already on other issues, most notoriously immigration. I consider his cabinet sufficient proof of his alignment with the most criminal elements in the world today. The most powerful banksters, torturers, warmongers, and globalists in America are but increasing the foetid horror of the swamp he promised to drain while a candidate as members of his cabinet.

I cannot in good faith assume Trump stands on moral principle here, despite the lack of proof he is lying about this particular issue presently. The most salient indication to me of his prevarication on this issue is his friendship with Roy Cohn, who admitted to being a brownstone operator on his deathbed. In all, I see that Trump's actions on this issue are best explained by him consolidating his power in this industry, rather than destroying it. Just as the CIA arranges for it's competition in the black market drug industry to be subject to legal sanction and increases it's own power in the industry, I see a similar dynamic ongoing regarding brownstone operations. I don't even think different players are involved at the highest levels of power in the two industries.

I think HRC will remain above the law, because I am confident the Weiner laptop evidence was used to bend her knee, and it is unnecessary to prosecute her and increase the risk to the industry that would entail, and that the most powerful extortionists prefer to avoid. The Clinton machine would not go down without collateral damage. The power extortionists wield would be reduced, and their personal risk of exposure because of it would be magnified. Crimes against humanity are inherently risky industries, and big players only take necessary risks to gain power. Epstein clearly remained a player after his original plea bargain, as the material taken from his safe shows, and apparently his power in the industry was insufficient to protect him from Trump, who now has that material.

Trump also has the Weiner laptop material, as well as the NXIVM evidence. These organizations cannot have been conducting their business without also competing, or allying, with Dyncorp, the CIA, UK/Royals, Mossad, the UN, and others, yet no revelations have surfaced regarding those entities as a result of the evidence in Trump's possession. I can only conclude that Trump's relations with such groups almost certain to have been exposed by that evidence increase his power over the industry.

I certainly wish the evidence enabled me to assume otherwise. Sadly, it does not.

"...in typical Trump fashion he slapped Epstein publicly..iron fist in velvet glove."

Regarding this, I recall George Webb's confession of being Mossad, and his statement regarding why HRC didn't get her turn as President. He said 'You're just bad for business.' Epstein was exposed trying to recruit, or being abusive, in Mar A Lago, and that was why Trump banned him, and ended their congenial relationship. You can view that event as something you or I would do if we caught someone we knew doing that at our home or business, or you can view it in the context of Trump's political aspirations at the time, and how being associated with someone so sloppy as to get caught was a danger to him. Given the lack of action against the aforenamed actors, I cannot assume the former motivation.

Epstein is reported to be a genius, able to discuss physics with Nobel Laureate Murray Gell-man. Raniere claimed to be the smartest man in the world (a guarantee he was not), and had numerous patents to back the claim. The folks running Dyncorp, the CIA, and other organizations known to be involved in sex trafficking minors are all of comparable intelligence, but Trump, who's IQ is rumored to be 156, seems smarter than any of them. He's certainly smarter than I am. He's smart enough to provide credible support for folks to believe he's cracking down on sex trafficking, while consolidating his personal control over the industry.

Until I see action to purge the CIA, end Dyncorp, Xe, the UN, the UK, so on and so forth, undertaken by Trump himself, I will be unable to give credence to the idea that Trump isn't sitting at the head of that table. I am confident he has necessary evidence. I don't think he can do it, and I don't think it's because they're too powerful for the President of the US to tackle. I don't think he could have become President of the US without being a yuge player in the brownstone industry.

I fully understand your lack of faith, and have no argument against it

For me, there are too many variables I don't have accounted for

I have emotional reactions to the news which varies day by day; but even on "good days" I realize that I'm just spitballing

It is within the realm of possibility that trump is serious; I've spoken before "preparing the battlefield", and I can see the "possibility" that Trump's actions are within that framework, but at the same time I can see the indicators you bring up here, which point to the possibility that Trump is simply changing the boss out.

And it really doesn't matter what trump does in the long run or not; there is an angry and armed segment of the American population that bread and circuses will not appease.

From my perspective, I see "normal" conservatives take the same viewpoint arc change that I did. I see more people making the political judgments that I made 7 years ago, 5 years ago, and 2 years ago ( and quite frequently, in the same increments of thought and planning that I have). I see more organization, which to me is key.

I don't know if! they will act or not; too many variables I won't make the call on

I gotta love the zen story...

we shall see

"I fully understand your lack of faith, and have no argument against it"

Good. I hear lack of faith disturbs some folks.

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I agree with the majority of your post and I do believe that the establishment media has been throwing everything possible at Trump since his election - Russiagate + Spying on Trump tower , etc.
However, that does not negate the possibility that Trump and Epstein had a close friendship/relationship and I think there's enough circumstantial evidence in the public sphere that suggests this.

I agree that Trump's name does NOT appear in Epstein's pilot's flight logs, however, his name is prominent, and even circled, in Epstein's black book. The black book being Epstein's book of contacts that his butler used as an insurance policy and even tried to sell for 50k.

This is not a right or left issue, this is an issue of criminality and corruption of the ruling class who operate under a different set of rules - both dems/reps and includes Trump/Clintons.
I'm still surprised that Epstein was even arrested recently, I figured he was untouchable at this point.

Including some links to the black book where Trump's name and contact info is quite extensive and also highlighted.

https://gawker.com/here-is-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epsteins-little-b-1681383992

EpTrump.jpg

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html

https://steemit.com/pedogate/@mandireiserra/archive-project-epstein-s-black-book-pt-1

Good addition to the post

I can't discount the possibility that Trump knew of Epstein etc's activities.

What is the range of possibilities for being in the black book:

  • customers for pedo activities
  • potential customers for pedo activities
  • business associates outside pedo activities
  • potential business associates outside pedo activities
  • status symbols (well known in LE that prostitutes add in "big name" entries to their black books to impress their clients)

However, we know that multiple numbers related to Trump were in the black book. IDK if they were current numbers, or were from the time Trump supposedly cut Epstein off. Even so, there is also the possibility that Epstein was gathering intel on Trump (possibly option #2 above?)

I'm not going to argue FOR the likelihood of any position on this.

My gut feeling was that Trump knew what was going on, and held back on this to use against the other elite. Whether that is a question of effectiveness (could do more against it as president) or simply politics (having them by the balls) is something else I won't argue one way or another.

We also know that Trump has worked with scumbags beyond Epstein; Manafort and Cohen come to mind.

Good news, tho. Epstein was denied bail today. Supposedly more charges against him in the near future.

That is great news about the bail, thanks I hadn't heard the result until now.

I'm not saying that Trump is guilty just because he knows Epstein, but if Epstein is a blackmail operative working for intelligence agencies then what other reason would Epstein have for his relationship with Trump? Business? No one actually knows what Epstein does or who any of his clients are, we're only told he's a 'financier' with a vast fortune and a convicted sex abuser.
There's a new video that was leaked by nbc of Trump and Epstein partying with cheerleaders, the optics don't look good here. Again, doesn't prove anything except that Trump has tried to gloss over their relationship and distance himself from Epstein.

also good points

right now, the only reason I..."support"...Trump is so people have a few more years to get ready for the necessary

which is weird because i don't think people will recognize our problems today until they've already been bitten on the ass

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