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siphon (60) · 5 years ago

I have the feeling that it is not quite clear what content int stands for.
Maybe it's just me, I'm sure you've already written it somewhere else but you can't get by everywhere.
Further on a lot of success and if the success is missing just continue with fun.
Good things need their time.

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munkiioh (52) · 5 years ago

I agree with you in that we definitely need to find a better way to reflect our intention of supporting specifically the entrepreneurial bloggers niche with our platform. While it has been stated in many various ways across numerous posts, having a centralized place where it is all explained and easily accessible is an excellent idea.
Thank you very much for you input! :)

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sumatranate (64) · 5 years ago

First, thank you for being open to honest, constructive feedback. Regarding what the INT team could be doing better, please consider the following:

I like the idea of focusing on entrepreneurship and online business, but it seems that a lot of people are misusing the tag. With this misuse, it is hard to find the great content that I believe INT wants to support. I see that the white paper addresses this concern, but abuse still seems rather rampant. What challenges are you facing addressing tag misuse?
Something that is important for a tribe token is that there are built-in sinks. The white paper mentions some of the options. Are there any plans to offer more sinks? I do not see the advertisement options that you referenced in the white paper. And how has HF21 impacted post promotion?

I think niching down to entrepreneurship is excellent, but it looks like INT has been a default catch-all tribe. Just some thought from someone who is staking INT.

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munkiioh (52) · 5 years ago (edited)

I see that the white paper addresses this concern, but abuse still seems rather rampant. What challenges are you facing addressing tag misuse?

I would say that it's probably due to the lack of follow-through by team-members to report, warn and downvote offenders (I too am guilty of this).
I do not think it is entirely intentional though, as for me, there is often so much that needs to be done, that finding the time to do manual curation in addition to everything else has proven to be quite challenging, (and I get the feeling I'm not the only one.)

And how has HF21 impacted post promotion?

There were talks of a appreciation & downvote bot that was intended to deal with this, however since HF21, we ended up returning to the initial directive of manual curation (ie. through utilizing our post promotion channels in discord, or participating in our quests and submitting posts to be appreciated based on the community guidelines tier appreciation system.)

Furthermore, while the community guidelines were created in hopes of helping to alleviate the issue of tag abuse, existing team-members have expressed hesitance with downvoting spammers, due to the fear of retaliation on their personal accounts (which some have experienced upon downvoting offenders in the past).
However, perhaps there needs to be a team member who's job is specifically related to rectifying this, namely appreciating good posts and providing warnings/downvotes to spammers, (will have to consider/flesh out this option further.)

Something that is important for a tribe token is that there are built-in sinks

Some of the utility that has yet to be implemented includes -

Prize pooled community run contests that encourage entrepreneurial blogging with the chance to win nfts (across various crypto-games), tokens, and sponsored novelty items from showcased businesses.
We are also due to create another website where our services are listed and where we hope to make advertising available to interested crypto-based businesses.

Both of the above options have additional facets to them that I'd prefer to leave undisclosed until they've been discussed and finalized by the team,
but truly I'd have to say our biggest challenge has been learning to grow into the shoes of managing such a large project, with little to no experience prior to this.
Our team members also happen to be spread out across numerous other projects on the blockchain, which in addition to the differences in time-zones, has made for some particularly 'challenged' team meet-ups.
Still, despite the project's shortcomings at this time, I believe our obstacles are surmountable and genuinely look forward to improving on the quality of service that Intrepreneur provides, as we continue to learn and grow alongside our community.

I'd also like to thank you for your consideration and input in this matter, as it is greatly appreciated. :)

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sumatranate (64) · 5 years ago

Thank you for such a comprehensive and thoughtful reply. I greatly appreciate that you have read my thoughts and responded with care and kindness.

I agree that you are not facing insurmountable obstacles. I hope you and your team can find time to gather together to dream and strive for a better future. I look forward to seeing some of the new changes in the future.

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karamyog (72) · 5 years ago

I just read the two other comments. I agree with the bit that there is probably lack of clarity in terms of what the tribe is all about. I think a lot of content on steemit is entrepreneurial. May be if people knew that, they'd be using the tag more often. And that would also clean the feed. I myself got clarity about the tag only because i participated in previous quests, post which i started using the tag.

Have a dedicated curation team? My posts could qualify as type 2 posts, but there is no curation. I know realityhubs does that and it's beneficial.

Tie up with other tribes? Contest entries are entrepreneurial. May be curate contest winners or specific tribes, such as steemleo where content is relevant to int as well. Posts posted from steemleo will automatically flow to Intrepreneur.life? If not that then may be a different version of that. Will get the Intrepreneur tribe to be more visible.

Those are 3 suggestions from my side.

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munkiioh (52) · 5 years ago (edited)

I think a lot of content on steemit is entrepreneurial. May be if people knew that, they'd be using the tag more often.

I agree with you there! I've even seen persons post links in our post promotion channels and don't even have the INT tag on them, despite there being a notice at the top of the channel specifying the need to do so in order to qualify for rewards. :/
Perhaps advertising is needed among more established groups on the STEEM blockchain, for as your suggestion,

Tie up with other tribes?

Can prove to be beneficial to the STEEM community at large, via more entrepreneurial bloggers getting recognized and appreciated though jointly run tribe initiatives like contests, giveaways etc.

Have a dedicated curation team?

Yes, I think this may be something that we definitely need to consider. All of our existing team members carry out tasks that are more in line with their individual passions/natural inclinations, and none were hired as 'curators' since it was initially intended to be a group run effort.
However I think it may be time to reconsider this approach and bring on some members who will be tasked with cleaning up the INT tag, specifically appreciating good posts in accordance with the community guidelines, and warning/downvoting repeat spam offenders.

Thank you for the continued support & helpful insights, as always your participation in our weekly quests is greatly appreciated. :)

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elbrava (55) · 5 years ago

The successful tribes seem to be the ones that are quite strict about the topics.

Sportstalk, steemleo and ctp come to mind.

Less is more seems to be the way to stand out.

Also, if you're not limiting, then effectively you are competing with palnet and neoxian. You will not easily gain more traction than they do.

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elbrava (55) · 5 years ago

Effectively you would need to empower the users of this tribe to downvote those who abuse the int tag.

It could beneficial to set up a @nointforyou account for this purpose

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munkiioh (52) · 5 years ago (edited)

Loving these ideas! Having a @nointforyou account for downvoting purposes could serve well to protect our team members' personal accounts, whilst still enabling individual members to go about cleaning up of the tag where necessary.
Additionally,

Also, if you're not limiting, then effectively you are competing with palnet and neoxian.

Excellent point made here, I had not considered it from that pov before (because I am admittedly not SUPER active/familiar with all the big tribes on STEEM), but this is definitely something we will need to make note of and keep in mind going forward.

Thank you so much for your feedback @elbrava! Cheers! :D

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elbrava (55) · 5 years ago

You're welcome 😀

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