Anonymous, WhiteList Only BidBot. Upvotes & Moderate Flags. Unique Delegator Rewards. 20K SP and Counting

bid.bot (63) in introduceyourself • 7 years ago (edited)

Meet @Bid.Bot, the all-in-one ethical Steem bot for upvotes, moderate downvotes, and stake monetization. This Bid Bot, run by a team of professionals and seasoned Steem investors with the communal interest of all the users and stakeholders in mind, offers unique features.

Automated whitelisting (over 20K members by trusted curation initiatives and counting) + blacklisting
Incentivized moderate flagging by credits generation.
Full anonymity and privacy protection against flag revenge. Encrypted memos only.
95% shares for delegators + 10% daily credits

Avatar based on an original idea of @fabiyamada

Intelligently Curated Whitelist & Blacklists

No machine or bot on the blockchain can effectively recognize content of quality that is worthy of promotion. This is why we have to rely on the efforts of human curation initiatives to ensure only genuine quality content creators are permitted to use the services offered by @Bid.Bot.

Bidding on upvotes and downvotes with @Bid.Bot is limited strictly to users with a Steem reputation equal to or higher than 65 (will be increased over time based on users behaviours), and/OR users previously upvoted by any of trusted curation initiatives listed below.

More specifically you should have received at least an upvote from any of the following curation initiatives, never a downvote or an unvote. If an unvote was casted you may still be whitelisted if a consequent upvote was casted.

In addition, several blacklists, are used as fallback to ensure @Bid.Bot is never available to those who do not have the blockchain’s best interests in mind.

Trusted Curation Initiatives

The above is not by any means a complete list of trusted curation initiatives. The whitelist may grow over time

Reward Pool Protection - The First Incentivized Flagging Bot

Steem bidbots and voting services are disliked by many and not without reason. No one enjoys seeing the trending page full of low-quality posts promoted for monetary gain alone, and the rampant abuse of promotional services by the greedy driving promising content creators away from the blockchain.

Numerous attempts to balance the reward pool distribution to combat the abuse have been made, but few had any impact. @Bid.Bot is the first to offer anonymity to all its users and incentivizes the moderate flagging of overvalued posts.

100% Anonymity Against Flag Revenge

Due to the unique features offered by @Bid.Bot, and in attempt to combat rampant abuse of curation reward distribution (through pre-running trails that scan bidbot wallet activities), bids sent to the @Bid.Bot are only accepted in the form of encrypted memos.

Encrypting your memo before sending upvote or downvote bids to the @Bid.Bot is easy, and instructions can be found in this guide.

While your username is still visible in the transfer, it is virtually impossible to identify the target of the flag, effectively protecting you from a flag revenge. Unencrypted memos will be rejected and sent back to your wallet.

Example of encrypted bid memo for flagging:

# flag https://steemit.com/steem/@bid.bot/howto

Why flag?

Downvotes (flags) have a very negative reputation on the blockchain and are often seen as an offensive and personal attack. This reputation stems mostly from the way downvotes are built into the Steemit frontend. Most often used to downvote spam and similar unwanted content, downvotes have another very significant role on the blockchain that remains widely unused: balancing the distribution of the reward pool by downvoting overvalued content.

Until today, Steem minnows had no way to influence the reward pool through downvotes. Without sufficient SP and with the fear of retaliation, all they could do is feel frustrated at the current state of reward distribution. @Bid.Bot is here to change that.

Moderate Flagging & @Bid.Bot Credits

“Bidding on flags? That will cost me STEEM / SBD, so why do it?”

@Bid.Bot reserves the liquid SBD/STEEM used to bid on a downvote in the form of “Bid.bot Credits”, stored through memos in your Steem wallet.

These credits can be used to bid on upvotes for quality posts.

It is important to notice that flags have lower maximum cap compared to upvotes. A bid for an upvote can be in total (summing all the bids for the post) maximum 150 STEEM / SBD, while a bid for a downvote maximum 25 STEEM / SBD. Such difference is implemented to prevent abuses of the flagging system and incentivise moderate flagging only, in addition to the reputation/whitelist + blacklists requirements.

Example of accumulated credits in your wallet via unencrypted memo (for transparency):

Credits Balance STEEM: 15.000 SBD: 25.000

Example of encrypted bid memo using accumulated Bid.Bot credits:

# from-credits 5.000 STEEM https://steemit.com/steem/@bid.bot/howto

# from-credits 5.000 SBD https://steemit.com/steem/@bid.bot/howto

Moderating Overvalued Posts

As mentioned above, @Bid.Bot is one of the only upvote purchasing services available to require the encryption of memos. This means anyone can check the wallets of most bidding bots and automatically identify the posts about to receive a significant upvote. By voting ahead of the bidbots, runners of such scripts are effectively abusing the curation reward distribution system. @Bid.Bot lets you do the opposite. Using the same information available in the wallets of most bots, you can mitigate crazy payouts by sending your flags via @Bid.Bot.

In addition, @Bid.Bot has a balancing system in place. If a post receives both a downvote and upvote bid for the same post via @Bid.Bot, the correct sum for upvoting or downvoting the post is calculated automatically according to the bids made.

Remember that while you cannot decipher the information in memos sent to @Bid.Bot, you can still see what posts were submitted to other bidding services on the blockchain and react against overvalued contents.

Up & Running

We, the team of professionals behind @Bid.Bot, have full faith in this project, and have powered up and delegated an initial sum of over 20,000 STEEM (purchased especially for this project) to @Bid.Bot in order to make it immediately available to users.

You can start sending your bids immediately to use this STEEM power to upvote and downvote posts on the blockchain. Find out how in this guide.

Support & Earn by Delegating

Supporting the @Bid.Bot is not only helping safeguard the reward pool, but is also an attractive opportunity to do so while monetizing your stake on the blockchain.

In addition to 95% of shares paid out to delegators in liquid STEEM/SBD, you will be able to accumulate Bid.bot Credits reserved for you to use in bidding on upvotes.

Earn Shares + Bid.Bot Credits!

For every transfer of liquid rewards to your Steem account (according to your delegation value), an additional 10% will be generated and reserved for you in the form of Bid.bot Credits. This will allow you to continue using some of your delegated SP as though it is still controlled by you to upvote quality content you deem worthy.

Delegate Now Via Steem Connect

Copy/paste the following link, change the variables as detailed below, and paste into your browser URL:

Set the sum of SP you would like to delegate.

Replace youraccount with your username.

Replace 1000 with the amount you wish to delegate.

https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=youraccount&delegatee=bid.bot&vesting_shares=1000%20SP

You will begin receiving daily share payouts as of that moment on.

Originally based on the battle-tested @postpromoter source code. @Bid.Bot will also be Open Sourced.

Bids Are Open!

Start sending your bids immediate. Learn HOW

Get in Touch

Have a question? Join the Bid.Bot Discord Server

Why this Post was promoted via other BidBots?

If there was another way to promote the @Bid.Bot initiative, we would have been more than happy to use it. Without the use of bid bots it is impossible (or likely very hard) to get enough exposure. We at @Bid.Bot hope that our services may make promotion more accessible and fair. We also hope other existing bid bots will experiment and adopt new measures against abuses and overvalued posts.

ALL INFORMATION PROVIDED FROM OR THROUGH THE USE OF @BID.BOT AND ANY OF ITS SERVICES DOES NOT CONSTITUTE INVESTMENT ADVICE OR ANY FINANCIAL RECOMMENDATION. NO FINANCIAL DECISIONS, OR ANY OTHER TYPES OF DECISIONS, SHOULD BE MADE BEFORE USERS SEEK OUT PROFESSIONAL ADVICE OR UNDERTAKE THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE.

Read our Terms of Service

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sndbox (77) · 7 years ago

Hello @bid.bot, thank you for including @sndbox in the whitelist of trustworthy initiatives! We sincerely appreciate it and are humbled to be among such precedent setting Steem-powered projects. All the best!

Sndbox Team

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

A pleasure!

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fingersik (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

I personally have just delegated 500 SP to this cause for now and not because you chose to include us on such a list. I see great value in possible encrypted flags that will allow people with the best Steem’s interest in mind to "safely" battle some of the reward pool’s oppressors. For the current Steem’s situation this is one of the best “solving projects” till this day. I salute you. Let’s see how the white/blacklists will work because that is the core building stone of the whole system.

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justtryme90 (71) · 7 years ago

As you have listed @steemstem as a trusted curation provider I will be increasing your power by 10K SP, from me personally. :)

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

@justtryme90 A M A Z I N G!

Thanks for that. On behalf of everyone in @Bid.Bot, we look forward to an awesome and long collaboration with you!

If you have any question, join us on Discord

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lemouth (72) · 7 years ago

Thanks a lot for your trust in steemstem. We really appreciate this sort of messages one in a while ;)

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comedyandjokes (33) · 7 years ago

We @ Steemstem look forward to working with you.

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lemouth (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

Really? Actually, @steemstem is not really looking to work with me, as I (co-)run the steemstem project...

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justtryme90 (71) · 7 years ago

That would mean you don't work with yourself though.

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lemouth (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

Do you think I should tell people I use clones? :D

I forgot the "co"... shame on me ;)

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justtryme90 (71) · 7 years ago

Well I like the concept of a promotion service that is centered around quality content creators and not just random spammy nonsense. There should be a market for good content creators to put extra eyes on their work, and one that does it for a fair price. What you describe seems like this could be one such project. :)

Plus I appreciate the recognition for the hard work the @steemstem team puts in.

So, so far... win win.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

SteemStem is proved to be a great initiative and for sure the initiative we trust the most! Thanks for providing the SteemStem blacklist. It is going to be integrated very very soon.

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utopian-io (71) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi @bid.bot!

Your post was just upvoted by @utopian-io. We invite you to join our developer community on the Steem blockchain to crowdsource and Open Source your project development and promotion with Utopian.

Thanks for adding @utopian-io in the list of trustworthy curation initiatives!

Contributing on Utopian

Learn how to contribute on our website.

Want to chat? Join us on Discord https://discord.gg/h52nFrV

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Thanks so much @utopian-io!

We invite you to join our developer community on the Steem blockchain to crowdsource and Open Source your project development and promotion with Utopian.

@Bid.Bot is willing to Open Source very soon!

Thanks for adding @utopian-io in the list of trustworthy curation initiatives!

Our pleasure :)

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piyush24 (25) · 7 years ago

Jay jawan jay kishan ka naara

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fracarosi (37) · 7 years ago (edited)

If I get this right. All the times I send SBD or STEEM to flag a post, those will be credited back to me and I can use them to boost other posts?

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

You got it right! :) Credited back as tokens you can use to boost QUALITY posts based on the criteria mentioned in the announcement. If you have more questions don't hesitate to contact us on Discord

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fracarosi (37) · 7 years ago

Thanks! Are they created as liquid transfers of STEEM / SBD? How do you prevent abuses of the flagging system?

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silentscreamer (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

I wish you luck although i wont be using your service since automation of reward distribution im not a fan of. But any improvement is welcomed and should be applauded.
Few things.
Firstly, knowing that "non remarkable" content is the content that fuels the bot economy do you think you will be able to receive delegation and maintain it knowing you effectively cut off close to majority of bot customers?
Do you think the whales that already delegate to bots will care about the ideals you try to follow, or is your delegation target those that have SP but were looking for a reason that can sooth their conscience before delegating?
I fear that would lead to even higher Bot SP delegation and really wouldnt be good at all for anyone.

And also, if someone did downvote me, couldnt i just look at the downvote amount. See how much id need to pay for that, and do a price and time comparisson with Gina info and your wallet info, thus tracking down the downvoter?

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

But any improvement is welcomed and should be applauded.

Couldn't agree more!

Firstly, knowing that "non remarkable" content is the content that fuels the bot economy do you think you will be able to receive delegation and maintain it knowing you effectively cut off close to majority of bot customers?

Our automated whitelist counts already 20K members plus all the members who have 65 reputation or higher. Delegators at some point will have to decide between maximised rewards and short-term gains or long-term benefits and fair profits. If our bot gets adopted from the mass, delegators should gain the very same profits or more while also caring about the long-term vision.

Do you think the whales that already delegate to bots will care about the ideals you try to follow, or is your delegation target those that have SP but were looking for a reason that can sooth their conscience before delegating?

We think there must be a change and we are bringing it to the table. The current promotion system is broken and everyone can see that. Whales see it clearly. We don't aim to fix all the possible issues linked to promotion on Steem right now but we pretend to solve the worst ones. Will they get on-board? Good question. Let's see!

And also, if someone did downvote me, couldnt i just look at the downvote amount. See how much id need to pay for that, and do a price and time comparisson with Gina info and your wallet info, thus tracking down the downvoter?

Nope. Bids are merged. One vote may contain both positive bids and negative bids against the target post, making very hard to guess who triggered the downvote. There may be cases where a post is both boosted and flagged. If a flag or an upvote is triggered, it will be based on the amount of the positive and negative bids compared.

Thanks for your feedback. Come chat with us on Discord

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espoem (67) · 7 years ago

We think there must be a change and we are bringing it to the table. The current promotion system is broken and everyone can see that.

So that is why you pushed this post to 1k with attempts to use services which you disagree with in the first place?

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techslut (70) · 7 years ago

I find it really funny. It's like: "Case, meet point."

No post by a new user should be allowed to get a boost like that. But it is.

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espoem (67) · 7 years ago

I don't find it funny at all as there are people who believe that they are right even they are obviously wrong.

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techslut (70) · 7 years ago

In Hebrew we have a saying: "The owner of capital is the owner of opinion". They can afford to push their belief and spend money advertising it. I am constantly shocked by the duality on steemit: users who rejoice at every 0.10 upvote because they WORK for their content, and want RECOGNITION, and a group of stakeholders throwing around insane sums that 90% of users can't even dream of.

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espoem (67) · 7 years ago

It's enough to read comments in here, There will always be an individual (or small group of people) who decides what is right and will use their all means to push that forward. That does not mean they are right regardless if they have fundings or not. People behind this project will realize sooner or later that this will not change anything and they will become only one of many hated bid.bots.

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techslut (70) · 7 years ago

That's very possible. Alternatively, it will fail because stakeholders with enough SP to make it a significant contender in the (already overcrowded) market will keep investing with older and more profitable bots. This one cannot be as profitable as the competition because of VP spent on flagging. In fact, I am not even sure how it can be profitable at all, but the team behind this experiment probably has better math skills than I.

This experiment is a statement, more than anything. Which is why I am here, reading the comments and eating all the virtual popcorn. Steem is never boring and this is just the latest addition of things to discuss and argue about - a supposedly "ethical" bot. I am curious.

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gmuxx (67) · 7 years ago

Now this is interesting. I like the way you are incentivizing flagging anonymously, so as to help prevent flag wars and to also take some of the reluctance out of using the flagging feature on shitposts topping trending.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

I like the way you are incentivizing flagging anonymously, so as to help prevent flag wars and to also take some of the reluctance out of using the flagging feature on shitposts topping trending

This is so good to hear! Thanks! Come to chat with us on Discord ;)

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therealwolf (75) · 7 years ago

Instead of adding another bid-bot to the over 100 bid-bots & voting-services that are already existing - you could have invested the time and effort into a project which actually makes a difference in addition to being extremely lucrative - like @steemmonsters.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Owner of @smartsteem ^

Which has its vote attached to this (clear example among many others): https://steemit.com/ormus/@mattmonarch/new-ormus-pure-white-monatomic-powdered-gold

Who uses the bot power to reward his own stuff: https://steemit.com/steemdev/@therealwolf/new-project-experienced-developer-wanted-for-cto-position

Who has just self voted a comment to get to the top, to prove what?

To prove we maybe don't need another bidbot, but for sure we need better bot maintainers.

We are not going to engage in this discussion. So please do yourself a favour and remove this comment, which only puts shame on you.

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therealwolf (75) · 7 years ago

I've built Smartsteem.com from scratch - over 9 months ago. What have you done? Copying an open-source bot? Must have been difficult..

Who uses the bot power to reward his own stuff: https://steemit.com/steemdev/@therealwolf/new-project-experienced-developer-wanted-for-cto-position

I paid for the vote like everyone else.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Bid.Bot implements:

Flagging capabilities
Bids mitigation via multiple biddings on the form of positive bids and negative bids
Credits system to incentivise flagging
Credits system to incentivise delegation
Automated whitelist which follows top curation initiatives
Fallback to multiple blacklists

You may have spent some time reading and understanding the functionalities before triggering a comment like that.

Thanks for your time.

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therealwolf (75) · 7 years ago

Flagging capabilities

Sellings flags is a dead business-model; you should have paid attention to what happened to those who tried that as well.

Bids mitigation via multiple biddings on the form of positive bids and negative bids

See above.

Credits system to incentivise flagging

Credits system to incentivise delegation

Credits that have no value.

Automated whitelist which follows top curation initiatives

aka leeching off from work of others

Fallback to multiple blacklists

themarkymark has been working his ass off to create such a blacklist - you're just taking the credit. Good job!

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

Sellings flags is a dead business-model; you should have paid attention to what happened to those who tried that as well.

Except we are not selling flags. I still advise to have a look to the post.

Credits that have no value.

Credits that have the very same value as liquid STEEM / SBD sent directly via transfers, which value is determined by the amount of delegation and number of bidders.

aka leeching off from work of others

The automated whitelist is custom code which is not implemented in postpromoter, if that is your guess. Still, the advise is to read the post.

themarkymark has been working his ass off to create such a blacklist - you're just taking the credit. Good job!

The blacklists are not based on themarkymark's only but on the official Steemit blacklist which is a combination of various blacklists on top of allowing to add more via a PR. https://github.com/steemit/redeemer-irredeemables

It is understandable you may not know how that works, considering what @smartsteem is pushing to the trending on a daily basis.

Before attacking an initiative that tries to do better, do better yourself.

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techslut (70) · 7 years ago

Can we invite ALL bidbot owners to a discord channel and let them fight it out? I would attend and bring all the popcorn.

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luca1777 (60) · 7 years ago

lmao.. 4 real... but it's like wrestling in MMA, it gets boring ;)

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

You forgot to mention:

Votes via his bot without sending via a memo
Votes via his bot inside 30 minute 'rule'

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allcapsonezero (61) · 7 years ago

@steemmonsters is the best!

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cryptothoughts (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

@therealwolf If you and the other bid bot owners capped potential losses to 0% we wouldn't need this positive ROI bot. This bot is only needed because of your unethical behavior & greed.

Other bot owners manage to do this (cap negative ROI losses) and actually pay out more money to delegators.

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therealwolf (75) · 7 years ago

Checkout @smartmarket from Smartsteem.com - positive ROI.

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cryptothoughts (61) · 7 years ago

ok thank you, will do.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

This sounds like a really cool project. I am curious and interested to see how it plays out!

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Thank you! If you want to learn more don't hesitate to drop a message on Discord

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mjo (46) · 7 years ago

So, will anybody who is not on a blacklist and meets your whitelist criteria have the autonomy to anonymously downvote ANYONE they want or will there be arbiters within your organization controlling where flags can be distributed? What if I disagree with rewards of one of the anonymous investors in this project and put an order to downvote their post, will you honor that or play favoritism?

I fear a system like this could lead to some centralization (or just less decentralization) of censorship control in the system. Obviously disagreements on rewards of posts is very subjective, I just wonder if the subjectivity is in the hands of the users or the bid.bot team.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

So, will anybody who is not on a blacklist and meets your whitelist criteria have the autonomy to anonymously downvote ANYONE they want or will there be arbiters within your organization controlling where flags can be distributed?

The @Bid.Bot bot does not do censorship in any way for both positive or negative bids. The only scenario where @Bid.Bot may act is by including the sender in the custom blacklist for what we is perceived as severe abuse.

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hanen (64) · 7 years ago

Looks very promising. Keep up the good work! I am sure that many things will be better in the next weeks :)

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

If you mean overvalued posts getting the flags they deserve, I assume yes! Wonderful weeks ahead! :)

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dromzz (57) · 7 years ago

Until today, Steem minnows had no way to influence the reward pool through downvotes.

Bidding on upvotes and downvotes with @Bid.Bot is limited strictly to users with a Steem reputation equal to or higher than 65,

Doesn't this in fact mean that minnows can't use the downvote service?

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maverickinvictus (64) · 7 years ago

65 rep or one that was previously upVoted.

That is an interesting requirement that removes a lot of people from being able to use it.

Although I know a shit poster that is at 67 rep who just did 5 posts a day with less than 50 value each so it never got to trending

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Although I know a shit poster that is at 67 rep who just did 5 posts a day with less than 50 value each so it never got to trending

He will likely get into the blacklist very soon! :)

The min reputation may also be increased over time based on users behaviours.

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mysearchisover (70) · 7 years ago

I'm a fan of transparency but how do I find out if I'm on the Whitelist?

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fracarosi (37) · 7 years ago

YES!!! GENIUS IDEA! Finally I can flag all the shit! Some light at the end of the tunnel!

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elm3lam (52) · 7 years ago

thank you good post

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franmarysbravo20 (29) · 7 years ago

I agree with you friend, it seems to me an excellent publication

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romelcordova (43) · 7 years ago

I do not know much about how rewards and curators work here at Steemit. My opinion is only based on my observation and my own experience. I recognize that I am still on the path that leads me to the key to success within this community. I am not a professional writer, I only publish everything that inspires me. But if I have noticed some post overrated whose content is not bad (I could not judge any content from another subscriber), but obviously there are equally good, interesting and original content that are not taken into account at all. I do not know if the solution is in @ Bid.Bot; Possibly yes. But for now I just wanted to leave my view of the topic on the overvaluation within steemit. Its origin I do not know, but I hope it is not a massive abuse.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

I do not know if the solution is in @ Bid.Bot; Possibly yes. But for now I just wanted to leave my view of the topic on the overvaluation within steemit

There's always a solution if someone tries to find one. We are! :)

Thanks for your feedback. Come to chat with us on Discord

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romelcordova (43) · 7 years ago

Thank you for that valuable response and invitation.

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jfitmisc (56) · 7 years ago

Can you specify if you upvote for Dlive? I don't see that specified anywhere in the post or comments!

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

@jfitmisc sure we do!

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steemero (63) · 7 years ago

unique project indeed. very excited to get this. just a quick question how do you determine the quality of the post. is it manual or automatic? thanks

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

This should prove interesting.

One question, though, if i transfer 1sbd to an encrypted memo, doesnt who i send that memo to still exist in clear text?
How does me sending a transfer to you get encrypted?
Provided i intend to selfvote?
Wouldnt i only need to look on steemd.com/@bid.bot to know who uses the service?

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

One question, though, if i transfer 1sbd to an encrypted memo, doesnt who i send that memo to still exist in clear text?

Sure but you send the memo to @bid.bot and only @bid.bot will be able to decrypt it to cast the vote or the flag.

Wouldnt i only need to look on steemd.com/@bid.bot to know who uses the service?

Have a look there steemd.com/@bid.bot. You will see all the memos are encrypted :)

To encrypt a memo you just have to prepend #. Learn more here

If you have more questions don't hesitate to contact us on Discord

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

Your how to page link is broken.

Have a look there steemd.com/@bid.bot. You will see all the memos are encrypted :)

But not who sent them.
Timestamps are going to be your downfall.
As they should be, if folks could earn anonymous rewards on spam how do we fight abuse?

And, it will be a cold day in hell before @curie gives me a vote, so, i guess i cant play in your game even if i didnt consider it abuse.

Any rewards not voted to an author by a noncolluding other is abuse of the rewards pool.
Any schemes to gain rewards not voted to an author is abuse.

I dont see your proposal doing anything other than rearranging the deckchairs.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

Your how to page link is broken.

Just checked. Seems it is working. Which one is broken exactly?

But not who sent them.

Of course not who sent them. Memos are encrypted so you never know if the sender is willing to boost or flag a post and which one exactly. This effectively prevents flags revenges and stops front-runners from casting a crazy amount of upvotes on posts that got positive bids.

And, it will be a cold day in hell before @curie gives me a vote, so, i guess i cant play in your game even if i didnt consider it abuse.

Not only @curie is listed in the curation initiatives. Also looks like you have a reputation of 65, so you can already use me. If your reputation is equal or higher than 65 you don't need to be whitelisted :)

We'll be happy to assist you more. Drop a message on Discord

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

Its the link in your reply above.
https://steemit.com/steem/@bit.bot/howto

I see you trying to obscure who bids on what, but i think anybody that really cared to out someone wont have much trouble doing it because timestamps are in the blockchain.

I dont like your scheme simply on forcing the votes i do get to be worth a little less because you act as the bully in the math for your buyers.
When they buy your power they short circuit curation.
Instead of getting rewards because the community wants them to have rewards in the amount the community thinks they deserve, they use you to take them.

When content can't get community votes you facilitate taking them.
Thanks alot, bully.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Its the link in your reply above.

Fixed. Thanks for checking!

When content can't get community votes you facilitate taking them.

Fair point. The thing is Bid.Bot allows more bids from more whitelisted users on the same post. Bids can be positive or negative. The bot calculates the difference and triggers the upvote or eventually the downvote.

So the community is way more involved than in any other bot.

On top of that Bid.Bot gives credits which no other bot does. These credits are free tokens you can use to boost your posts or other posts when flagging or delegating. Practically we are giving you tokens of appreciation when you care about curating contents via Bid.Bot :)

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

You'll pardon me if i'm skeptical?

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Of course! It is good to share feedbacks. We all improve thanks to them. Never hesitate to share more with us!

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steemdrivetime (44) · 7 years ago

Like many people, I'm not a fan of bid bots at all. But I'm curious to see how this one plays out. I like the idea of anonymous flagging as I think we need more people who are willing to do this.

Good luck with the project!

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vinay1 (25) · 7 years ago

Reputation is still 25 ...hpw to increase it

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allcapsonezero (61) · 7 years ago

I upvoted you. That should get your reputation growing. It doesn't take long to grow into the 40's... getting higher than that takes some time. My suggestion is write some good stuff and get an upvote from one of those trusted curators.

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rogeer (56) · 7 years ago

Gran post

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mrblu (62) · 7 years ago

this is great and awesome bidbot

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livinguktaiwan (74) · 7 years ago

So that leaves a bunch of people like me stuck in the middle where, hand on heart, despite the fact I do post good stuff, my path with the 'trusted curation initiatives' have never crossed, and now my rep is deemed too high for them and too low for you.

The other thing re the 'trusted curation initiatives', there are many other established ones on Steemit as well such as the Steemitworldmap. We're the first curation programme dedicated to travellers and are coming up to the 230rd daily Travel Digest. We have OCD and Curie curators on the team and manually go through every single post that is pinned to the map regardless of user rep and focus in quality content only. We try our best to keep a blacklist but there's only three of us, but fair to say we've curated lots of good content as well.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

now my rep is deemed too high for them and too low for you

It is likely you will get there very soon! :)

there are many other established ones on Steemit as well such as the Steemitworldmap

The curators list is not final and we are more than happy to expand it. Get in touch on Discord for that.

Thanks for your feedback and we hope to hear more about your curation efforts soon!

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choogirl (64) · 7 years ago

Yep, I'm in the same boat as you Living. It's shit.

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techslut (70) · 7 years ago

You?! How?! Even I got curied and steemstemmed!

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choogirl (64) · 7 years ago

Never got curied. I'm not science person or dev so I don't get those big upvotes. Unless ausbitbank upvotes my posts, they really don't make anything. It's one of the reasons I've lost faith in the platform.

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techslut (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

Not a science person or dev either. I wrote a post about whale vomit as some delicious click-bait and tagged it as steemstem for lolz. It got steemstemmed and curied. I loled so hard...

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alexdory (59) · 7 years ago

Maybe someone was just trying to encourage your behavior.
I remember the post.
Plus you represent an audience that complements steemSTEM but it's not overly active, so any vote cast is an exposition of our values and brings back interest in the project.

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livinguktaiwan (74) · 7 years ago

You got friends in high places @techslut! Maybe I should try that 🤔

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alexdory (59) · 7 years ago

Please do!

See @techslut ? Interest :D

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fbslo (70) · 7 years ago

Did you read @promobot's ToS?

Reserve the right to retract an upvote without refund if used to promote:
Vote trading services.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Their call :)

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agamcantoi (28) · 7 years ago

Wow jauh amazing sekali tingkat kan kmauan anada

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djsteef (33) · 7 years ago

Hey, could someone explain how someone is deemed a shit poster? I hope to not accidently fall into that category.

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davllinc007 (50) · 7 years ago

Ok I feel this is a nice concept by @bid.bot

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danielavip (27) · 7 years ago

Anonymous BidBot - Upvotes & DOWNVOTES

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jimsontayong (29) · 7 years ago

so i guess planktons like us won't get to join you? do you have any advice for those who would like to join this project but still just starting out like me?

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lebey1 (66) · 7 years ago

I don't think this service was created for stemmites with 50 and below reputation... The bot should be created for people like us who are not recognized.. For our effort

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

@lebey1 it is created for you as well! Just pack some awesome contents and get upvoted by any of the following curation initiatives. Immediately after you could boost your posts or flag overvalued ones. Good Luck!

Trusted Curation Initiatives

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palikari123 (64) · 7 years ago

NO, this is not good. This will only make things worse, and will lead to even more problems and the eventual complete failure of this platform. Why the hell has this post been upvoted by every shit bot on steemit anyway? And why is it only exclusive to people with reps of 65 or more? Everyone seems happy to only play ping pong with the higher valued accounts and doesn't give 2 shits about anyone else. More money for the steemit 'rich'. I have another word to describe this, but will refrain from using it.

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emmahakpan (43) · 7 years ago

this sounds like an amazing project you've got going..

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hdyam (54) · 7 years ago

I gave you upvote and redeemed your post

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najmul4 (37) · 7 years ago

It's great to read your post. You always post a lot better. Thank you for always making such a good post. Let us always come forward and post this way.

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alirezaap (33) · 7 years ago

nice

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imammugi (13) · 7 years ago

good luck!
have a great day!

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boomerang (56) · 7 years ago

This post has received a 68.98 % upvote from @boomerang.

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booster (68) · 7 years ago

This post has received a 53.61 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @bidbot.wallet.

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amitjangid (27) · 7 years ago

All information is good and helpful for everyone.
I love @bid.bot.

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

Who is behind this project?

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ats-david (74) · 7 years ago

Bro...anonymous bot flagging! Didn't you hear? It's like, the next coolest trend!

And just trust that they will be the best bid-bot ever...because anonymity.

What could possibly go wrong?

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Let's see it under different perspectives.

What could possibly go better?

Small stake holders get a way to mitigate payouts of overvalued posts accessing a system which incentivises moderate flags only.
Fear of retaliation goes away thanks to anonymous bids.
The curated whitelist + blacklists should allow less bad contents to be promoted.

Coming back to your question.

What could possibly go wrong?

Either the flagging or upvoting systems get abused. This would mean we haven't fixed a problem which is there already.
Flags may be misused to harm the reputation of targeted users. We have a lower max. cap for flags. Flaggers must be whitelisted. If abuse attempts will be identified, we have a custom blacklist.

Could go well, better or wrong. Experimenting different solutions is the only way. Time will tell us :)

Thanks for your feedback

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

Hello @themarkymark, several investors are involved. While disclosing identities isn't in our plans, transparency on processes and development is.

Follow our updates or get in touch on Discord

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

I figured that was the case, kind of leaves a bad feeling if you feel the need to hide.

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

kind of leaves a bad feeling if you feel the need to hide

Reasonable point. We'll make sure to provide enough information on the team members who are willing to be in the spotlight :)

Thanks for your feedback!

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upmewhale (65) · 7 years ago

You got a 41.32% upvote from @upmewhale courtesy of @bidbot.wallet!

Earn 100% earning payout by delegating SP to @upmewhale. Visit http://www.upmewhale.com for details!

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cheneats (56) · 7 years ago

Hello, bid.bot! Best wishes for a great journey here in this culturally diversified yet mostly unified community :) Have fun!

By the way, there are several groups you as a newcomer can join. They will stay with you for your journey, helping and mentoring along the way.

@greetersguild invite link https://discord.gg/AkzNSKx
@newbieresteemday invite link https://discord.gg/2ZcAxsU

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goteddybear (25) · 7 years ago

sounds interesting please can you teach me how to understand steemit

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faith-zakia (29) · 7 years ago

There are a lot of free videos you can view on YouTube to understand steemit better, however, in a nutshell it's about writing quality content to share with others and in return your can get paid in Steem. Steemit is built on the blockchain and rewards it's users in this crypto currency for their input. Steemit is experiencing exponential growth at the moment which will in turn also mean steem will grow to new heights soon.

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goteddybear (25) · 7 years ago

thank you so much i will go to you tube to check it out

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greenbeans (44) · 7 years ago

All bid bots are anonymous. If they weren't anonymous they wouldn't be called bots...........

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

@greenbeans what is the correlation between bots and anonymity? Not every bid bot requires encrypted memos. We do :)

If you have any question drop a message on Discord. We will be happy to assist you!

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tuanis (59) · 7 years ago

Welcome to steemit @bid.bot. Join @minnowsupport project for more help. Checkout @helpie and @qurator projects.
Send SBD/STEEM to @treeplanter to plant trees and get an get an upvote in exchange of your donation (Min 0.01 SDB)
Upvote this comment to keep helping more new steemians
Send SBD/STEEM to @tuanis in exchange of an upvote and support this project, follow for random votes.

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haseez (45) · 7 years ago

So, in simple that means i can send a specific bid to the bot to get my post upvoted. And if my steem influence is above 65 then i can also send a bid to flag over-rated data? But, bid sent for flagging would return to me. And that post would be anonoumusly flagged in return. That sounds cool. But, 1 thing again, what is in it for steemians having less than 65 influence. Its again giving the power to those who already have it. So, this bot simply means 'An anonymous fighter for rich people'??

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amirms (41) · 7 years ago

great post..i'll wait for next post

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steemitpostlover (25) · 7 years ago

bidbot your post is very beautiful. thanks for published...i hope u continue your work,,

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agamcantoi (28) · 7 years ago

Wow

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steemdrivetime (44) · 7 years ago

Yeah, these types of comments mean nothing and won't get you anywhere.

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steemplus-bot (8) · 7 years ago

Welcome to Steem, @bid.bot!

I am a bot coded by the SteemPlus team to help you make the best of your experience on the Steem Blockchain!
SteemPlus is a Chrome, Opera and Firefox extension that adds tons of features on Steemit.
It helps you see the real value of your account, who mentionned you, the value of the votes received, a filtered and sorted feed and much more! All of this in a fast and secure way.
To see why 2818 Steemians use SteemPlus, install our extension, read the documentation or the latest release : SteemPlus 2.17 : Tips.

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valentine112233 (34) · 7 years ago

Well is nice to understand what is going on All the times I send SBD or STEEM to flag a post.good to have them back for a better post. That for the explanation of so many things.

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upme (49) · 7 years ago

You got a 74.57% upvote from @upme thanks to @bidbot.wallet! Send at least 3 SBD or 3 STEEM to get upvote for next round. Delegate STEEM POWER and start earning 100% daily payouts ( no commission ).

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elosofficial (25) · 7 years ago

Very nice post, I'm new here and it's good that there are such blogs

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johnmiracle (31) · 7 years ago

This is amazingly awesome.
But I have been involved in some of these platforms and it has been mostly a scam to rip me of my SP and SBD.
I hope this is profitable to me and I will earn and learn from it

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drhushchak (25) · 7 years ago

Please take a look :)

https://steemit.com/privacy/@drhushchak/an-investment-in-bitcoin-private-why-should-you

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rehanrazaq78 (25) · 7 years ago

nice post

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cuteman7171 (36) · 7 years ago

very useful article

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jessypol (48) · 7 years ago

Thanks for informative post.

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sneaky-ninja (59) · 7 years ago

Sneaky Ninja Attack! You have just been defended with a 71.47% upvote!
I was summoned by @bidbot.wallet. I have done their bidding and now I will vanish...

woosh
A portion of the proceeds from your bid was used in support of youarehope and tarc.

Abuse Policy
Rules
How to use Sneaky Ninja
How it works
Victim of grumpycat?

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ghayas (68) · 7 years ago

You know the bid-bot users can give you the same reason for their 'bid-bot' usage. How would you satisfy them? Thanks

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bid.bot (63) · 7 years ago

@Bid.Bot is a Bid Bot as the name suggests :)

We are not against promotion on Steem, Bid.Bot tries to improve it by experimenting different solutions.

Thanks for your feedback. Get in touch with us on Discord

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ghayas (68) · 7 years ago

Great to hear that. I have few other questions and would like to drop here for you to answer.

Incentivized moderate flagging by credits generation.

Fine. How would you protect your users if those enraged by your 'flagging service' decides to start downvoting all your customers. We have seen this in the past with a reputable service like Minnowbooster and user lost a lot of money in the war.

balancing the distribution of the reward pool by downvoting overvalued content.

This is subjective. The content that you or some of your users may feel overvalued may very well be valuable to me. How do you cater this?

moderate flagging

Can you explain moderate flagging? Does it mean humanly or manual flagging?

balancing the distribution of the reward pool by downvoting

How would you differentiate between those settling their personal agenda and those genuinely concerned about reward pool rape?

Thanks and good luck!

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naconc (40) · 7 years ago

Good job, it's great, excellent, I wish successes for you!

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ikemsamuel (48) · 7 years ago

This look promising and interesting, am gonna try you power to know whats up!..

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ikemsamuel (48) · 7 years ago

Wow!.. @bid.bot this is awesome, promising and interesting, am gonna try your power!...

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marionbowes (57) · 7 years ago

Wow, I have so much to learn, this looks quite interesting

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reneparedes (33) · 7 years ago

Hello there!!!
it is awesome how blockchain thecnology it is growing up too fast.
also bid-bots are great and helpful!!!
good luck!!!
have a great day!!!

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petertomas (43) · 7 years ago

From #Venezuela supporting your work men .... I am ready to do whatever you need ... Greetings from #Venezuela ..
@bid.bot

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arcange (73) · 7 years ago

Congratulations @bid.bot!
Your post was mentioned in the Steemit Hit Parade in the following categories:

Comments - Ranked 8 with 131 comments
Pending payout - Ranked 1 with $ 966,94

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hdyam (54) · 7 years ago

Goood

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joseglb (35) · 7 years ago

and for the poor like me? What do we have to do to grow on this page?

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haikubot (54) · 7 years ago

And for the poor like
Me? What do we have to do
To grow on this page?

^{- joseglb}

^{^{I'm a bot. I detect haiku.}}

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kingtamarah (59) · 7 years ago

Can this help me get more upvotes and fan base ?

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intravenosa (36) · 7 years ago

Excelente Iniciativa pero fuer bueno crear este articulo tambien para las personas de habla hispana.

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yflarios (25) · 7 years ago

Promoting content is really important in Steemit, good post

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mindquaker (25) · 7 years ago

Thank you . Its really helpful.

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alan369 (56) · 7 years ago

Bot will flag who downvotes you or?

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mindquaker (25) · 7 years ago

Thank you . Its really helpful.

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villagestories (25) · 7 years ago

i love this content

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frdem3dot0 (58) · 7 years ago

advertisement is a valid service, but there is nothing ethical in the way it is done on steem. This is just another bidbot contributing to the downfall of the steem ecosystem and the end of honest curation which would be vital to promote steem. Accounts with much sp should take on their responsibility to curate, not sell their sp for money. But its fine since when steem is done, its the poeple with a lot of sp that will suffer.

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capatazche (53) · 7 years ago

Is there a max or min ROI for a bid?

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postpromoter (63) · 7 years ago

You got a 21.08% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @bidbot.wallet!

Want to promote your posts too? Check out the Steem Bot Tracker website for more info. If you would like to support the development of @postpromoter and the bot tracker please vote for @yabapmatt for witness!

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arslan786 (61) · 7 years ago

hello I am a minnow on steemit and I wan to ask that can I get the @bid.bot upvote?

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allcapsonezero (61) · 7 years ago

I have had a few @curie upvotes, and likely some other "trusted" upvotes too. Am I automatically on the whitelist or is there some sort of application that i need to go through?

I applaud this effort as I feel the bid-bot fuelled ponzi scheme was going to throw both steemit and steem down the tubes. If there is more effort to reward quality content (and compete in a bid-bot fuelled steemit) then there is hope for this platform yet.

I will likely delegate a small (yet huge for me) chunk of SP to support this initiative. Thanks.

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espoem (67) · 7 years ago

According to the information in the announcement posts, there is no application for using this bot. You become whitelisted either if you have enough reputation score, or you were upvoted by one of the trusted curation initiatives. I'd say that the most straightforward way to find it out is to is to try it. They promise to refund you if you are not whitelisted.

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karinagamez (24) · 7 years ago

hello you're great @bid.bot, I'm new to the steem world ... would you help me collect steemdolar?

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eddy-18 (48) · 7 years ago

Great initiative

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franmarysbravo20 (29) · 7 years ago

Excellent publication, it is a very interesting article.

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laurabb (28) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the info, was very interesting

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peacezo (46) · 7 years ago

This is sooo nice..

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karimuddinn (12) · 7 years ago

Very good

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shankhunsam (46) · 7 years ago

Do you mean only Whitelists can use your service?

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smcaterpillar (52) · 7 years ago

No machine or bot on the blockchain can effectively recognize content of quality that is worthy of promotion.

Well, there is at least one who tries: @trufflepig

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nilmoni (39) · 7 years ago

hay @bidbot What will we benefit from it? How will it be possible Whatever you have taken, it is good but does not do anything, so that people have problems. May Allah bless you. Thanks!