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Welcome to RT!

in introduceyourself •  6 years ago 

Why did you come here with your propaganda?!! NORMAL people live here, why are you here? This is how I will speak Russian.

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So... Propaganda = Russians are speaking. The whole truth = Westerners are speaking.

Seriously? You have never, ever heard any propaganda from the western media?

Why did you come here with your propaganda?!!

To make you rich, you ignorant. :D link

According to science, the value of a platform equals

n x log(n)

If RT, with millions of followers, brings just a tiny fraction to this platform, your Steem could be worth 30$ instead of 0.30 $

Why did you come here with your propaganda?!!

In order to keep it on the block-chain, the most secure system in the existence.

There is no deleting, there is no censorship, it's the whole point of crypto and block-chain:
to break the chains!!!

Years and years later the content will be safe and sound if stored on decentralized block-chain.
It's the perfect tool for free thinking media

...If RT, with millions of followers, brings just a tiny fraction to this platform, your Steem could be worth 30$ instead of 0.30 $...

They know how to bribe you. This is where it all starts. I have lived in Russia for 55 years and I know what I'm talking about.

I lived in Yugoslavia :D

They are not bribing anyone. They are doing just fine without Steem(it)

It a free market. They have published the post, people voluntarily decided to give their upvotes, shares and comments, because they find it valueabe.

This is how Steemit is popular according to Alexa:

And this is the same metrics for RT:

According to Wiki:

Its annual budget increased from approximately $80 million in 2007 to $380 million in 2011, but was reduced to $300 million in 2012

And the Total Market Cap of Steem is 150M

What they can get from Steem(it) - I don't know

What Steem(it) can get from them?

Recognition and the expansion of users

They could buy at least 1M Steem Power just to show us that they are interested in our platform. But I doubt they will.

Why should they buy something? Their goal is to spread propaganda and influence on other people. Steemit is just another platform where they will do it.

It all comes to ROI:

  • 1.000.000 Steem = 500.000 $
  • It also gives: 10 x 30 $ upvote = 300 $ per day
  • Roughly speaking, it will take years to return the investment

From the marketing perspective:

  • there is about 20.000 $ worth of Steem, generated per day with the current price
  • Even if we boost previously mentioned amount with 200 $, it will still take 2-3 years

The best (only?) way to earn from Steem at this moment is to start from scratch, make something sustainable in real-life. Use Steem just as a bonus. Hope for x5 price

I see you are only interested in money. And the fact that Russia is conducting an aggression to other countries, you do not care.

Not just money, of course. I'm interested in girls, cars, girls in cars, guns. You know, just average "boy's stuff".

Russia is conducting an aggression to other countries, you do not care.

Why would I care.
And even if I care, I don't see how my care can change something as big as that.

By the way, here is the list of wars since 2003. Let's do some quick check.
By nations, how many times involved:

  • USA, 13
  • FRA, 7
  • UK, 7
  • RUS, 7

But you don't care :'(

LOL

Your analysis is woefully incomplete. You neglect that RT specifically is a media corporation whose value depends on views, as well to an unknown degree based on how they serve the interests of the Russian government in other ways.

That $300/day of upvotes is far more useful to generate followers, and would be enormously stupid to waste on self votes. Consider how a few thousand carefully placed upvotes between $.30 and $30 could create goodwill, and that measly $300/day of value attainable via selfvotes is utterly laughable.

Business is more than accounting, and society far more valuable than it's economy. How about you provide estimates of the value of each user of RT to the company (I can't even imagine how to represent the value government sponsorship provides RT, as, again, that value is far beyond monetary alone), and take a stab at estimating how many new users they could generate with such upvotes? That would be a far more realistic valuation of a $500k investment in Steem.

Mmm, I don't agree. Since the beggining, I'm agitating for the paradigm that the main focus should be on products, in this case - on news. As RT is producing good content that attracts 100.000 viewers on YouTube, it's highly unlikely that "bribing" steemians would make a difference. Especially if we keep in mind that monthly user base is less than 50.000. Steemit is still lacking basic functionality: ability to interact without the account, simple account creation and decent wysiwyg editor

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Well, media enterprises are extremely dependent on goodwill for market share, and RT didn't come on Steem by accident. I don't think they need to drop a bundle on Steem and undertake outreach to create goodwill, however, because a lot of folks are going to create it anyway out of gratitude for the content that will imbue Steem with value. Further Ideological impediments to creating goodwill aren't likely to be addressed by such outreach either, so undertaking such expense doesn't have much to recommend it. Lastly, little on Steem dispels goodwill more quickly than serial upvotes, circle jerks, and similar profiteering. It would be beyond foolish for RT to drop a chunk on Steem just so they could selfvote $300/day. They'd lose ten times that in goodwill for doing so easily.

None of the flaws in Steem you mention specifically impact RT ops.

Generating goodwill on Steem isn't bribery, although you've probably encountered rank pandering that sought to mimic goodwill. Upvoting posts and comments relevant to your interests does generate goodwill, and conflating that with mere bribery is a bit churlish.

Notice how I'm not bribing you?

average revenue per online user = $2

That's a good start at reckoning value to RT of their users. I should have expected you to provide such data.

Thanks!

There's no free-thinking media. Nowhere.

I prove you wrong. Every post and comment I make is mine alone. While I am wrong sometimes, I don't know it when I post it. When I find out I am wrong, I change my mind and become right, and say so.

I will agree there is no perfectly correct and factual media (even though I do my best). I cannot agree that there is no free-thinking media, because even if I am the only person that does so in the whole world, I exist, and I only speak what I believe to be true from research I have undertaken.

You may speak for corporate media outlets, or may mean to speak for yourself. Your comment is a statement that your posts and comments aren't free-thinking. Is that what you mean to state, as a warning that the media you create is compromised somehow?

Because that's what your statement means.

NORMAL people live here

I expected so first too but I have learned soon, that it does not apply.
The flag on your comment is speaking for itself.

I like their station.

Why did you come here?
What is Normal...
what is wrong with you?

I like their station.

I don't.
Well, actually I just don't consume anything from their services.
So I may be wrong too, or maybe I'm not, who knows? ;)

Of course you are wrong. Every student of law learns at the first year the principle: “Audiatur et altera pars”. Listen to the other side.

If you are not able to listen both sides, you are not able to make a judgement.

If you listen only to one side, then you are being manipulated.

I find it pretty interesting that a few accounts have popped up commenting on this post that are utterly allergic to reason. TBH, that kind of causes me to find RT a more credible news source.

Only telling the truth needs to be opposed by folks immune to facts. Thanks for pointing that out.

You're funny.

If you do not grasp that what he is saying is factually correct, you're not merely manipulated. You're slavish.

Given the comment you made earlier that 'there is no free-thinking media', and my considered reply, I suspect that my comment was completely wasted on you, since you appear dedicated to being willfully compliant to manipulation.

I can't even think of a more pitiable state of mind.

Tell me it isn't so!