Stunning Footage from Israel 1913 - 2017

contextualize (56) in israel • 8 years ago (edited)

Today marks Israel's 69th year in its current incarnation as a modern state. Celebrate Yom HaAtzmaut, Independence Day by witnessing some of the dramatic changes that have taken place over the last century.

Israel - Then and Now.

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photowebgear (54) · 8 years ago

Hi. Greetings from Haifa.

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contextualize (56) · 8 years ago

Hello! Toda Raba! Happy day!

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inphiknit (66) · 8 years ago

!B”H / ב”ה

Kottel in the '20's! Wow!

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contextualize (56) · 8 years ago

Kottel forever!

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francesleader (54) · 8 years ago

Israel did not exist before 1948 so stop claiming the beauty of Palestine as something belonging to the invaders.

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contextualize (56) · 8 years ago (edited)

Funny, cause you know what the ancient Hebrew word for invaders is?

Palishtim...

And to embarrass the Jews, the Romans renamed Israel by that word "invader." So in a very real way, if the descendants of those people want to call themselves the Palestinians, it is an ironic truth, even if not their actual national identity. (I say it's not their true national id because by 1948, more than half the "Palestinians" were new immigrants to Israel, who came for the economic boom that developed when the Jews began to come in greater numbers in the mid 1800's.)

The truth is on the Land and in the words themselves, like the last names of the Palestinians such as "The Egyptian/Al Masri," or "Of Lebanon/Abu Liban," and as in the ancient, historical and world renown Hebrew names of almost every town and city. This is why they are now trying to rename Judea/Samaria as the West Bank, or Palestinian territories, or rename Jerusalem to Al quds. Or also for instance, with the presence of the tombs of our prophets around Israel, etc. (Notice that they also claim our prophets as their own, which is fine with me, until they start saying that they were really Muslims, which to the ignorant, means (G-d forbid) those prophets were not Jewish, and that since G-d promised the land to our Fathers, they could now claim Israel as their own too.)

As to the idea that Israel "didn't exist" prior to 48, this is simply absurd. Israel existed as a kingdom and nation many times and in several forms on that land. History documents it in thousands of ways. However, there was a province, but never a country called Palestine. Not ever a kingdom, no national language, or even any known specific culture that differs from the surrounding Arabs. And don't forget, that after their victory, France and Britain redrew maps, and created/gave away to specific rulers, something like a dozen Arab countries around the same few decades. So in this sense, and only in this sense, did Israel, AND Palestine not exist, prior to the English giving it up. Circumstantial proof; the Arabs rebelled vs the English and now the Jews, but why not against the Ottomans or Jordanians? Because there never was a Palestinian nation or unique people to desire nationhood, or in other words, there was nothing for them to rebel against, until Israel was re-created, and the propaganda kicked in. Until then, the people were fine being Muslim under Ottoman rule, or West Bank Arabs under Jordan's control.

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francesleader (54) · 8 years ago

You seem to rewrite history with every comment you make!
Jews did not exist in Roman times. They were Hebrews.
As for what is going on now, will you deny that Israel is an apartheid state which persecutes the indigenous people? I am sure you will because you seem to be brainwashed that murder & robbing someone's home is somehow acceptable against the goyim. You are a supremacist & not worthy of my time.

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contextualize (56) · 8 years ago (edited)

Then who was Judah and all his descendants? And in common parlance today, we call the Hebrews, or Israelites, Jews anyways, but you can nit-pick if you want. But I'll admit that I was wrong, for not giving the full context by using the word Jews. Glad you admit Israelites were around back then though, that's better than most anti-zionists.

Why did you ignore everything I said, go on a nit-picking tangent, then go to the usual conspiracy? Why not address my points, which were in answer to your own claim!!? Other than using the word Jews which you disapprove of, how else did I rewrite history, what point did I make that is false?

I do deny that Israel is apartheid, and want you to realize that 1.7 mil Arabs call themselves Israeli and have full rights and citizenship. There are no signs for no Arabs on the public buses or on benches or in hospitals. Go see who is riding any Israeli streetcar. Have you ever? Do the Palestinians who live under PA or Hamas control have Israeli rights? No, and they shouldn't according to international law, just like they don't have US rights... See my latest post to learn what % of Palestinians want to become Israeli.

I hear the exact same phrases from you lot. It's like you all watch the same half dozen videos. So I'll say it because it's true and to humor you; I know that robbing and murder is wrong, including all of the mistakes that Israel has made, (though we'll disagree about which those are.) Will you say the same for the Palestinians?

You going to acknowledge the apartheid across practically the entire Arab world? Be a Christian in Mecca, or try to be a Jew in Libya... But I'm the supremacist cause my people work, live around and with, go to the same schools and hospitals as the people who we're supposedly keeping under apartheid...

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francesleader (54) · 8 years ago

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contextualize (56) · 8 years ago

My comment was tl/dr?

Why won't you answer my questions or address a single point?

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