Did Turnbull Ask Trump About the Elephant in The Room?

markhodge (54) in julianassange • 7 years ago (edited)

In Australia, a 'mate' is more than just a friend and is a term that implies a sense of shared experience, mutual respect and unconditional assistance. Wikipedia

A gushing sycophantic Australian press pack has hailed Malcolm Turnbull’s visit with Donald Trump as a “great diplomatic success.”

I’m not quite sure how they arrive at that conclusion.

Yes, Trump rolled out the red carpet and treated Malcolm like a good little lackey, and Malcolm will undoubtedly return with some crumbs and even some sort of hope that he might yet convince Trump to join the TPP(If you can call that an achievement). But, in all honesty, these “visits” are not diplomatic, they are exercises in pledging loyalty and fealty to the great power that the United States is.

When Malcolm left Trump’s presence, you can bet that Trump’s mind would have switched to other more pressing matters and the box marked obligatory glad handing of vassal was ticked off.

Australia is simply not a problem to the United States. We are always willing and ever obliging. We learned our lesson well in 1975 and have not dared to creep out of our box since. Successive Australian “leaders” essentially make the same platitudes. Some are overly nauseating (Julia Gillard) some appear a little uncomfortable (Abbott) but they all utter inanities about mateship and alliances.

The United States is not Australia’s mate. It is its owner. The sooner an Australian politician has the guts to stand up and say that the better.

And while we’re on the subject of guts, one wonders whether Mr Turnbull had sufficient intestinal fortitude to at least raise the subject of Julian Assange.

Turnbull and his foreign minister, Julie Bishop can hide behind all the weasel words that they want and pretend that Assange’s matters are between Assange and the UK but blind Freddy can see that Assange remains holed up in a cupboard in the Ecuadorian embassy because he has very real fears of being extradited to a US facility somewhere and charged with crimes that essentially amount to publishing the truth. While Assange remains where he is, the Australian government stands condemned as weak, subservient and powerless.

Donald Trump has on occasion quite rightly expressed admiration for WikiLeaks. He is perhaps the only US politician who could perhaps be persuaded to call the “security” attack dogs off. Surely, a politician with an ounce of that good old gutsy Australian mateship blood in him would at least explore the options with Trump for some sort of way forward for Julian Assange.

Sadly it appears not. Malcolm Turnbull would not recognise the true meaning of mateship if it jumped up behind him and bit him on the bum. He is what Australians rightfully deride as a fair weather friend. Someone who will slap your back while you’re on the way up, but disappear like a rat up a drainpipe at the first sign of struggle.

Turnbull, Bishop and the rest of this sorry excuse for an Australian government are allowed to let Assange rot by a wilfully ignorant and compliant media. Not one journalist even thought to ask Turnbull about Assange’s status and most media outlets will preface any story about WikiLeaks with an introduction of CIA smear and innuendo.

Australia’s government will only ever be as good as its opposition and the first line of opposition should always be the press. When it comes to matters involving Australia’s relationship with the United States, the press consistently reverts to the role of stenographer, simply repeating accepted talking points. It is time that the Australian people demanded more from the press and its government.

Julian Assange remains an Australian citizen. He deserves to be treated like one. Until the Australian government is held to account and forced to act like a mate for Mr Assange, any talk about being "mates " with the USA is just talk.

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somena (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

I've just spent the last 2 days reviewing dozens of news articles about The Intercept and it's campaign to mitigate the damage done to the Surveillance State by the Snowden Leaks. It's a very troubling development. I don't really know what to make of it. One of the things I do when trying to assess things going on in world events is to not spend huge amounts of time trying to dissect people's motives. If the information that they are pushing out into the world is solid good information with high value that should be disseminated widely, I don't much care about the attacks being made on the person doing the pushing. Thus, I look at the record of Wikileaks and can only conclude that regardless of how it is portrayed by what are clearly partisan hacks, Wikileaks is solid and should be protected as a source of journalism-news. I wonder a lot now, having reviewed the history of the Intercept and the very strange incidents that have done on there... how sources have been burned... and I compare it to how Wikileaks helped Snowden... and I look at Pierre Omidyar's behavior... and I can't help but conclude that he is something of a cut-out for the Hillary Clinton State Department types. I strongly suspect at this point that the Intercept and SecureDrop and many of the journalists involved with that publication are deeply compromised and working for the Deep State. I don't know, after reading dozens of reports on this how this conclusion could not be reached by others IF they are willing to look at the situation objectively. I'll go one step further. The Intercept is, as Sybil Edmonds lays it out, a "honey trap" for Whistleblowers. As is the promotion of the Securedrop system. Considering what we know about the ability of the Intelligence community to access all devices anytime they want... I strongly suspect that there's a vested interest in promoting the idea that secure and encrypted communications are much more possible than they actually are. My research on this indicates that the steps one would need to take to actually engage in secure communications, even with end to end encryption are far more complicated than 99.99% of the population would be willing or able to manage. (for example... you could not use any operating system on a Max or any system after WindowsX) securely. I think that the narrative being pushed on this by people who have a vested interest in protecting the Surveillance apparatus is to try and lul people into a false sense of security. I note that The Intercept totally burned Reality Winner, as an example and she was so incompetent as a leaker that she didn't know about the printer codes before printing a document on a government computer.

I'm also surprised that this article, despite being tweeted by Julian Assange's twitter account has made less than 30 cents, and generated no comments despite 2600 views. @mindhawk eh?

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markhodge (54) · 7 years ago

Thank you - yes the Intercept appears compromised. Very much so. The hit piece done on Assange the other week was, bordering on propaganda. I'm not sure where Glen Greenwald fits into that narrative. Is he being white-anted or is he part of the problem? Source documents are source documents. they speak for themselves. Unfortunately, we live in aworld where research and thought are way undervalued