What they leave out is that 99%+ of the time it is legit drug or crime money. Political advocates mislead people by suggesting that the disparity between the rate of property seizures and criminal convictions means that all those people were innocent victims but mostly they give up their ill-gotten property to avoid incriminating themselves because they are criminals. That disparity is a testament to how great our criminal laws are and what strong protections they give the accused. Other countries don't have this problem because you are assumed guilty until you prove yourself innocent in criminal cases too.
I think it could use some reform but every time someone brings it up it seems like the people always get their money back and those are the cases that are supposed to get you outraged but they always have a happy ending. I worry more about cases where cops go to the wrong house and shoot the dog or residents, you can't bring them back like money and that happens all the time.
Actually most of the cases that I've read about are about people who have done absolutely nothing wrong and who have had property as well as money taken from them. Next step is then they have to pay massive amounts of money to get their stuff back and most times fight made-up charges.
What you don't hear about is everybody who is scared willingly it just gives money to these officers which they understand and know that it is ill-gotten gains that was not worked for so why is it that law enforcement are being allowed to keep it.
That should be given over to a public account and that money should be used properly instead of frivolously spent by law enforcement.
And if you don't believe me how much this is in Las Vegas it has been proven multiple times over that law enforcement takes advantage of civil asset forfeiture and as well as ridiculous spending of civil asset forfeiture financing...
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I would bet that every anecdote you have read about falls into that category, that's why they picked out those anecdotes, that's why they use anecdotes instead of statistics. See what I am saying about that?
I have read them all and not one where they had to "to pay massive amounts of money to get their stuff back " and in all of them they do in fact get their stuff back when they are not actually selling drugs.
In many of the cases the person doesn't even have to go to court, just provide some documentation to the police. In other cases you can go to court without a lawyer if you have the documentation that your property is legit, but of course all of that is premised on the "victims" being actually innocent which overwhelmingly in these cases they are not.
If you have $500,000 how do they know if it is legit or you stole it or it is drug money? It is suspicious just because there isn't any legal reason for that, that's a reasonable suspicion unless it's Monty Burns getting ready to board his hot air balloon to drop silver dollars on people. And of course Mr. Smithers would have a withdrawal slip or some other document.
Indeed the people pushing this issue never talk about how most people just forfeit the property because they don't want to incriminate themselves in their criminal case because that fact ruins their whole misleading supposition based on the disparity between the rate of convictions and the rate of seizures and that would ruin the whole specious argument.
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no, 99% of the time it isn't drug money smh
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What he said. Needs way more oversight.
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needs to be ABOLISHED. Nothing wrong with good old fashioned police work.. you know evidence and convictions before confiscations 👍👍👍 civil asset forfeiture is nothing short of complete tyranny
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Damn. And truth. I have to say it needs to be investigated further and abolished. Then charges for misuse and investigate the financial deals and further charges.
Gonna be some pensions revoked.
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lol! i imagine if they ever personally felt the financial sting of their wrongdoing, things would change real fast 😂😂
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Easy make the penalty 3x the rate of civilians. They want special class give it to them.
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😂😂😂
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I notice these articles seldom have any statistics other than the rates of conviction vs rate of seizures, which is misleading, they are always anecdotes but I have yet to find even an anecdote without a happy ending
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maybe more than 99% of the time those things that are seized are actually involved in crimes, that's why they never have any statistics in these articles, only anecdotes from 1%ers.
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