RE: [업비트] Upbit 마저 스팀하드포크 지원 발표

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in kr •  5 years ago  (edited)

Please @jayplayco, I would like to understand why the Korean community which you represent and support via trippleA and zzan are supporting Hive on one hand and supporting JS on the Steem witness?

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Is it all about the money and no care at all about decentralization?

Do you still think JS has any good intention for the Steem blockchain and if you do, why is all his current action bent on killing the community?

PS: I say the "Korean community" because that is what you say, but I have been watching the TrippleA and Zzan witness votes and it seems hard to believe that the whole Korean community is only able to gather 86 and 67 votes for their witness. It seems to me that you mean the rich Korean community and not the normal Koreans whom I have seen supporting the real Steem witnesses.

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I do not represent the Korean community, but I do inform them about the situation that is happening on Steem and in general about cryptocurrencies.

Your text is full of presumed points, which I personally don't have the time to clear everything for you but will have at least give you the time back you invested to write your comment.

Is it all about the money and no care at all about decentralization?

What is decentralization for you? As there is no real decentralization in the real world. It is always just trying the best out of the situation to keep it as fair as possible. In my point of view, the governance from Steem was never really decentralized, as for that we had too many whales on board that came from the pre-mined stake.

  • I am not on behalf of proxy and vote for myself, but if guess you may try to speak about proxy.token. Proxy token is voting for both sides of witnesses and is still interested in having a peaceful solution that seems to funnel now into a chain split. Proxy was and is holding the balance that neither the old witnesses nor Steemit Inc. could try to hard fork anything out. That was formally appreciated also from the old witnesses but seems now not anymore relevant as they are moving.

  • TripleA and ZZan are nitrous communities based on Steem-Engine and the future how Steem-Engine decides will decide also about how each community would move on.

  • You are presuming that Justin Sun does not have any good intention. I can' t prove that he has, but you can neither that he does not want to work with his stake to increase the ROI, which would need at first a lot of resources to be able to do it. So presuming something on nonfacts is irrelevant.

  • The Korean community has mainly bundled their votes as proxy into two accounts. Proxy.token and Clayop. There are some accounts that have larger voting powers but vote separately which would come together to about 3M SP. The Korean community that is bundled into Proxy and clayop do represent together over 9.5M SP. I don't have the exact number of how many proxyed users they have, but you may have the tools just to look at it. Blockchain is free to see for everybody. You are again here 'assuming' that so-called normal Koreans are not part of the Korean community, but that is again just 'assuming' without any facts nor knowing what you are saying.

To finish this comment, if everybody is about decentralization, what is wrong with it when people decide on their own what they do with their stake? Or is decentralization for you to force people to act like you would think is right and force them to use their stake as you would think is right? I know that you are not trying to force it, but the whole tone of your comment is saying something like "you guys don't know what you do, or you doing it just for money?" but that is not true. If we would be here only for the money it would make no sense to answer your comment, as the time vs. effort does not payout nor would I spend hours to try to communicate with each party to find a deal that could fit, or would use my free time to write on this platform.

If it would be about the money, I would be not here anymore. So if you are ready to really understand what this is about, I am surely willing to talk about it, but I had already learned while talking to a lot of people like your mind, that under the current condition, I am just talking to walls.

곰돌이가 @jayplayco님의 소중한 댓글에 $0.030을 보팅해서 $0.012을 살려드리고 가요. 곰돌이가 지금까지 총 7694번 $104.104을 보팅해서 $103.953을 구했습니다. @gomdory 곰도뤼~

곰돌이가 @gomdory님의 소중한 댓글에 $0.029을 보팅해서 $0.013을 살려드리고 가요. 곰돌이가 지금까지 총 7754번 $105.534을 보팅해서 $105.043을 구했습니다. @gomdory 곰도뤼~

Thanks for taking time to respond @jayplayco. You were not talking to a well and I appreciate your time.

I participated in SCP, TripleA tokens and some other projects from the Korean community long before many in the western world knew about them. With the help of Google translator I read many of your post which help me talk the investment decision then. You can find a lot of my post back in history were I heap praises on the Korean community as regards the brains behind the great projects that where coming out from that end.

So to be clear, I don't think you guys ain't rational or don't have the brains to manage stuff on here.

There are not just the Korean community here, loads of countries and regions are on here too. I am not an American, not a European nor from Australia. I am an African. And yes, I was taken aback when you listed four groups to discuss the future of the blockchain and the only country represented as you wish was the Korean community. I did not see any country or region complaining as what we all wanted was for things to be normalized but I guess it wasn't to be.

I like you won't be saying much, but rather seat back and watch things on fold. Good luck.