RE: Alfie Evans - Ward of the State

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Alfie Evans - Ward of the State

in liberty •  6 years ago 

I appreciate your willingness to dialogue with me, but I still cannot get behind the notion of the State owning my children, and determining what care is best for my child. It really boils down to the spectrum between collectivism and individualism, also known as Statism and voluntaryism (anarchy - self-directed rulership). No matter how much "for the children" rationalization is given, it is not reasonable (there is a distinction between reason and rationalization, as the first determines the belief, while the latter explains away the belief). Thanks again, be well.

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I like a debate. The state doesn’t own your child. The courts made a decision when the doctors and parents couldn’t decide. Both parties willingly went to the court to make a decision. Would you honestly think if your child was in that position , as a parent you could be objective, I couldn’t. Neither could they. But I would like to think I would know when it was time to let someone pass I love, but would I if it happened who knows.
Sadly this happens everyday and in most cases both sides are in agreement. It’s the few where there is a disagreement that hits the press. It worth reading through the judgements online as it’s explained far better than I can possibly try to.

At what point do you say enough? Ventilating him for an indefinite period until there was nothing left of him seems cruel too. All the money and time in the world wouldn’t change the end result. We simply can’t stop brain degeneration or reverse it yet medically.

I really appreciate the intelligent debate, And if I’m honest am I 100% certain? No. From the outside it’s so different. Forgetting the legal side, that boys poor dad looked broken by the end of it. And who can watch a child die, willingly, to have it taken out your hand must be terrifying. I don’t want you to think that I’m certain. I’m not :)