Hi @alexvarela thank you for the interesting read. Quick introduction -- my name is Aly, nice to meet you. I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to present things from a scientific, philosophical, personal and societal view, that's effort right there. :) I do agree with you that ignorance is just indifference. I feel that these people that are indifferent are just afraid to really feel -- if you can feel pleasure, means you can feel pain -- and I think they don't wanna deal with that at all.