RE: To Give Or Not To Give

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To Give Or Not To Give

in life •  7 years ago  (edited)

This is an interesting post. Having gone back and read your earlier to beg or not to beg post I am not sure I agree with some of your base assumptions, but on the other hand I am very intrigued with AlgoShare.

Am I reading you correctly in the previous post as saying that homelessness / begging is a choice, that those who are begging on the streets are there because they choose to be there? If that is indeed what you are saying I have to say I pretty strongly disagree, but will wait to make sure that is actually what you are saying before I spill out hundreds of words on this topic :)

RE AlgoShare / Prosperism - first I assume you are officially affiliated with the AlgoShare project in some capacity? I see you link to sharonomics.com in your blog header, which site seems to be affiliated with AlgoShare although there does not appear to be any direct links from sharonomics.com to algoshare.net. I guess I am kind of wondering why there was no "introduceyourself" post on this account verifying your affiliation with what appears to be a pretty large and well run project. But assuming yes, you are affiliated with AlgoShare, what I don't seem to see explained anywhere is how the poor are going to be helped. I understand the best performing algorithms will be made available to others if they are willing to share a portion of their returns (I think I have that right) - so is some portion of that $ going to be distributed through some kind of charity?

I am also curious about these images you are sharing here and on the sharonomics website - they appear to be images of homeless people that are not actually owned by you (reverse image searching the "prosperisms" on the website, it has been pretty easy to determine that they are images of homeless people that were gathered from various online sources) and have been turned into these sort of advertising memes - this seems like it kind of borders on the unethical, to use images of homeless people that you do not own as advertising. And you are paying people Steem to spread these images around? Am I misunderstanding what is going on here?

Finally I am kind of confused by the resteeming and upvotes for resteeming that is going on in the comments of these posts. I noted when I first visited the post that @cheetah had flagged/downvoted many of the comments here from people saying they had resteemed the post. Checking out the profiles and wallets of the accounts that had been flagged they seem to be spammers/scammers. Are you unwittingly giving large upvote payouts to spammers/scammers, or are you doing this knowingly?

Sorry for the long comment. I am confused as to what I have stumbled onto here and I am hoping to get some clarity.

Cheers - Carl

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@carlgnash: Thank you for visiting my post and sparing so much time to write. I am honored Sir. And, thank you for not coming to an adverse conclusion without giving your perceived radicality in my thinking a chance to explain it’s rationality. I’ll surely respond to all your curiosities in detail. But a short answer for now is: yes I am the inventor of the AlgoShare technology, and yes AlgoShare is one of the techs that evolved from my work on Sharonomics, and yes my blockain-integrated fiscal thinking could not fit in any of the classical definitions of any of those “isms” (capitalism, socialism, communism), so I had to invent a new non-partisan “ism” Prosperism. Why no “introduceyourself”? It took me sometime to understand how the platform works (I am still learning), and then some of the memes that I created made me realize the conuncrum that Thomas Becket found himself when his best friend put him into a “to be or not be” situation. As I write this response, I am looking at this image and can’t help crying.

Until my long answer comes across, you may want to find out what AlgoShare is, and if you like it please support the cause by simply “Sharing Your Influence” here, nothing more Sir.

i have been in the market today while i was eating 2 child came to me
and asked me if i invite them to eat something and of course i sed yes
and they order a tuna salad .. they where so happy that i thought about your post and i made a picture to them its my first SBD spend on child food homeless ❤
maybe this original picture can help for the cause and you can make a nice post !!

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Your wish is granted my dear @valblomqvist. Check it out here

Yes I already researched AlgoShare last night and am definitely interested in it. Hence my long winded reply here :) I just also have observed that you are, intentionally or not, handing out $1+ upvotes to accounts that are clearly shell accounts that funnel income back to known blockchain spammers/scammers, and this is not activity that I want to support. What is going on with all the resteems - is there some kind of website somewhere that you sign up for that is like a resteem ring or something, where everyone agrees to resteem each others posts?

Incidentally, it is never too late for an "introduceyourself" post. Just because you have been on platform for a while without making one doesn't mean you can't make one now. I would HIGHLY recommend that you do exactly that, and in this post try to clearly prove your affiliation with AlgoShare / Sharonomics. If there is an AlgoShare twitter account, for example, retweet the link to your introduceyourself post. Or any other way that you can think of to make it clear that you really are associated with AlgoShare. I think it would make people much more likely to support your endeavors here on Steem if they knew for sure you were affiliated with the project.

And yes, I will be happy to "share my influence" to promote AlgoShare if you can explain exactly HOW this project actually is going to help the poor. I understand the basic concept of sharing the most effective trading algorithms in return for a portion of the profit, but it is not clear to me at all on how this is going to translate into doing anything for homelessness and poverty. I have visited all the websites associated with this project and have done a fair amount of research and I have not been able to answer this question.

As much as you may believe you have a right to judge my actions, I don’t think I should be judging your integrity as a top curator even if you think the content quality of my recent posts are not undervalued at $2.14 and $0.76 respectively. I respect your judgment Sir, because….

Having said that I will address your “resteem ring” thing in a separate post that I will shortly write after I am done clearing my tears of joy for @valblomqvist’s humane gesture inspired by my writings. Yeah she might be one of your suspect “scammers”, but it doesn’t matter to me for reasons you’ll find in Tears Of Joy.

Meanwhile why don’t you just DM me on @sharonomist twitter handle and I will ask my CEO to give you a call so you’ll know why I am so ignorant of the so called “shell accounts”, “spammers/scammers” and “resteem ring”.

Hey hope you didn't take offense - I was asking honest questions and this sounds like an honest reply. If you don't know what I am talking about RE scammers/spammers, you don't know. That isn't your fault (necessarily). If you want to you can look at the commenters below and click on the votes that each comment received - look for the ones flagged by @cheetah (flags show up as a "-" symbol instead of a "+") and check out the wallet/transaction history for those accounts - they funnel money to low REP spammer/scammer accounts. I have no idea how all these folks showed up here but presumably you have at least some idea if you are going to write a post about what I referred to as "resteem ring".

I was just trying to get to the bottom of what seemed like some strange/shady things going on here. It could very well just be people taking advantage of your good nature and knowing they can get a big upvote by showing up at your posts and resteeming. I would personally advise against giving big upvotes to people that are funneling money to the spammers/scammers that choke the blockchain with crap - but ultimately it is up to you to police your own actions and act according to your own moral compass.

To be clear, I did think this post was well written and undervalued and upvoted it because of that. I do not have a twitter account but if you want to talk in private would be happy to chat on steemit.chat (@carlgnash there as well) or Discord (@gnashster there).

I tried to make clear the entire time that I wasn't judging you - I didn't even know what was going on! I was just trying to figure out what was happening here. From the responses I got from you and @bitbulls I believe you are not intentionally supporting spammers here. I just wasn't sure. I am still not sure about the ethicality of taking pictures that you do not own, of homeless people, from various internet sources, and using them as advertising without the consent of the original photographers nor the subject matter. But that is kind of unrelated to the rest of this all. Anyway sorry to choke your post's comments with this. Would be happy to chat privately at the channels above. Good luck - Carl

No offense at all Sir. Here are the honest answers, perhaps as honest as honesty can get. And please never think that your comments will ever choke my post. You are most welcome to write whatever you feel like.
Cheers :)