While youtube is getting worse, Dtube is getting better.

in life •  7 years ago  (edited)

My friend Ben ( @bennierex) pointed me to a news article today (here). It's about youtube and the loss of income for content providers in the Netherlands. The article is in Dutch.


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Many YouTubers in the Netherlands are suffering more often from Youtube's policy to not show commercials with video's that Youtube considers "commercially unfriendly".

Users that create content for Youtube get their money from these commercials. So they are pretty vital for their income.

According to the article, Youtube uses a self-learning algorithm to decide which videos get blocked from showing commercials.

The problem is the algorithm doesn't always work. So video's that should pass don't pass. Leaving perfectly legit videos with no payment for the creator.

But of course, the worst part is content providers that have a large following but have a certain 'style' (swearing, nudity for instance) now are deprived of their income unless they change their ways.

The power to take away commercials on certain videos can also lead to censorship. Depriving someone of an income can do that.

From a Youtube perspective, this policy is understandable though. They are a company, they need to make a profit. If advertisers leave because Youtube shows commercials on the wrong videos. It's bad for business. Simple.

Here comes Dtube


Since I started making my vlogs I have uploaded a lot of Video's to Youtube and it works great. This is hard to deny.

Ever since Dtube was launched I tried to use it as much as I could. So, every time I make a vlog I try Dtube first.

I had days where it worked fine. I had days where it didn't work. On the malfunctioning days, I tried to give, as best as I could, feedback to the creators. They even put me in a subsection called Dtube Evangelists (lol! it makes me smile every time).

On Dtube you won't find any censorship regarding your own content. And I think it's a huge opportunity for anyone that feels himself out of place with Youtube's new policy.

But Dtube is still raw. It's not better than youtube yet. But it's slowly improving.

Only recently they added new changes to the upload (no more errors, so far) and they added a progress bar while uploading. Wich has been a blessing for me.


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I believe more users are one way to make the Steem blockchain better and stronger.

I will use Dtube instead of Youtube as much as I can to showcase that it works and if Youtube keeps screwing it's userbase hopefully at some point some of them will come here.


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I will always watch on Dtube vs youtube now. I want to support Dtube first of all and it's become a matter of principle in avoiding youtube as much as possible with the way they're censoring content creators administering monetary sanctions. I really appreciate you going out of your way to post on Dtube. Some days it doesn't work, but you always try.

Dtube really has gotten much better from a viewing stand point also. There are some days where the video simply will not play or takes awhile to start. I don't mind waiting for a few minutes as I know they're brand new and are getting the kinks worked out. It all boils down to the fact of what do you want to support? Some huge, billion dollar, multi national conglomerate or individuals trying hard to put out honest, good content to try and scrape by? The choice is easy and hopefully more and more people start seeing it this way and shun youtube as much as possible.

Great post brother and you and Bianca have a great night!

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Awesome comment man! Dtube is indeed getting better every time. I fully support them too. Thanks, you have a great day/night too!

It is crazy how strict YouTube is getting regarding their policies but it seems like it is something they have to do as they want to maximise their earnings from sponsors rather than caring about the creators on their platform.

I've seen people where when they upload a non-offence thumbnail their video gets demonetised so it seems like this algorithm they have in place isn't that great at detective valid content that applies to the policies and ones that break them.

I think that people should get into dtube. As steem grows and we gain millions of users people will intern start finding out about it while they browse steemit and many people will migrate to it from youtube

It is amazing to see how many tools have been built on top of the steemit blockchain. I can't wait to see what Zappl will be like. It will only get better and better as time goes on and I'm glad I could be a part of this journey early on.

It is astonishing how all of this is free for users but they can also monetise it without the consumer losing much.

Well I'm glad I was able to squeeze in some time to view one or your posts in a month. Crazy how you are able to keep making vlogs every day. I hope steemfat is going well @exyle! :)

Hey man, good to see you. Yeah, the development is crazy and only increasing! Steemfat, is going well, man!

I am not a big fan of making video. Dtube is cool. I have used it.
It is good to know that steemians have access to Dtube and no censorship too.
It opens doors for us that youtube is acting up.
Hey Let's hope Dtube run efficiently and
KEEP ON STEEMIT>

I guess YouTube's ruthless policies regarding profit sharing (even some other than the commercials thing you mentioned) are a blessing in disguise for decentralized platforms like Steemit blockchain and to be specific, for DTube. I'm sure a lot of traffic from YouTube, and serious talented people, are on their way to Steemit. I personally know a few who are already thinking of winding up their setup from YouTube and a couple other platforms and shifting it here. They're a big hit here locally in Pakistan. I will post a news once I get a confirmation from them.

Thanks for sharing

I just can't see paying 25% to an inferior product.

As far as I know, I'm not paying anything. I might earn a little less. Which I think is fair considering these guys are building a video service on top of the Steem blockchain that will make it a lot better.

Hi exile, in fact they are building a video service on top of ipfs and they are posting the content on steemit in behalve of you. while I like the idea I don't think Dtube will last that long as new technologies will arise that will make the development of a decentralised video service much easier and better. I mainly think about the upcoming EOS platform, I really believe that we will see many more decentralized youtubes and even more steemits in the near future. I don't want to spread bad karma, I'm just giving my 2 cents. I wish all the best to Dtube!

It a 25% fee

I think they need the money to make it better^^

Interestingly enough though...in their breakdown of where the money goes...0% goes to improvement.

Hello Evangelist, you just got one new convert, "me", lol. Thanks for the post. I have been using Dtube for like 2 weeks now, and i believe they are great and very responsive to suggestions. I will resteem this. Cheers!

nice post friend no doubt youtube is getting worse even i one of our fellow steemian got 2 community guideline strikes on his channel and he even don't know why he is getting those strikes and youtube team also won't tell the reason of a strike now one more strike and he will lose all of his important videos and channel permanently, it's harsh behavior by youtube, here is the post, youtube has to create win win enviroment both for creators and advertisers. and D-tube is no doubt a fantastic development for steemit and it's improving day by day the good thing is that now we can upload our steemit stuff without the involvement of third party and that's great, d-tube is still new but i hope it improves as the time passes on, have a very happy week ahead my friend, thanks for sharing

Fully agree. Sooner or later, with Yutuba, they will start leaving if they do not change. The person is always looking for where better. So that they have something to think about.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

the person is always looking for where better.

Yes!

Dtube is great from a freedom perspective but what happens when someone uploads a video that is extremely inappropriate ( for example extreme violence), cand people flag it until it is hidden? and even so a lot of people would have seen it by then.Don't get me wrong I'm not pro censorship but I'm curious how Dtube works more unusual circumstances.

On Dtube it works the same as on Steemit. It's possible to flag videos.

You are right, Youtube has always had a lot of restrictions and lately users and I have been using this service less and less. Dtube I heard not so long ago and still look at it, although its potential is obvious. Thank you @exyle

Dtube seems to have a solid dev team improving it.

As long as people continue to identify the bugs, the team will continue to fix them.

Taking huge profits and giving some pennies to the creators will surely result in decreasing the viewership of Google and Youtube! Their policies aren't clear yet to most of the people who have channels on Youtube. They should do something as far as distribution of profits is concerned, otherwise, my children might not see any websites named Youtube on any browser


I'm not married yet, just an assumption what would happen after 15 years :D

What do you think about the fact that DTube is taking a 25% cut of the post earnings? At first, they promised to reduce this percentage over time - now, that promise is nowhere to be seen.

I hope that DTube's upload and playback issues can be solved - but even if they do, 25% is far too high. TBH any more than 5% cut is too much to me.

If I remember correct they said they will charge 25% for a few month for developement and then stop taking fees because they dont want to make a business out of it.
I think this is the wrong approach, it's best to take a small percentage ( under 5% ) indefinetely

Agreed @heymattsokol. I use Amazon AWS to dish out all my commercial videos to my paying clients. While I am not a big client of theirs by ANY stretch, I do have quite a few clients watching quite a few of my videos each month. My highest fee to Amazon for one month was $0.23!!! So for DTube to be taking 25%, that is a bit heavy-handed, even in these hard development months. There are other ways to raise money.

As for YouTube, @exyle I am a YT partner and have been one for many years. If I was to put up a video with 3rd party content in it YouTube would instantly shut off any revenue to my other 400 videos. I feel like I am walking on egg shells always with YT. I would love for dTube to become more reliable and incorporate some key features offered by YT. When dTube was first introduced I was VERY new to Steemit. I tried dTube for a few days, but abandoned it because of the errors and poor performance. I will go back and revisit.

Thanks for your insight. I always enjoy reading.
Cheers,
Bucky

Ya it's a real big fee in my mind. Agree completely with you. Too bad about the YouTube stuff, it's getting worse and worse these days.

I don't mind earning a little less to support the development of a video platform that can raise the value of the Steem blockchain. In the future, I can see them using an SMT for their service.

I share in this feeling @exyle on both of these points. I do think that funding an early stage project by charging users is not a sound plan. There are other options. For example, the developers couple approach a small number of whales and offer them an opportunity to invest steem for a long term percentage of the project. If I was a whale I would see the value in that investment. The developers would need to show the whale investors that they have a sound plan and good team, which would be a good exercise for their project anyway.

My suggestion would be to build a basic but solid business plan, approach some wealthy whales about seed 'venture capital' funding, offer them a decent percentage of the project for their funding, and offer the service to users for a very low initial fee (not 0%). This will do 3 things as I see it: 1. It will give them the funds to build the project, 2. Hold the developers accountable to create a solid business/service, 3. Attract a user base that give the developers the marketshare and the feedback to design the best service they can.

Once the devlopement is done the developers can charge a fee that will be in line with the return on investment of the whales and acceptable to longterm users. Perhaps this will be through SMT's.

Boy, I would love to be in on this project :)

IDK if "earning a little less" is a fair characterization of them claiming 25% of the profits on your post... agree to disagree, I guess.

You said it really well in your post. Dtube is the answer to youtube's censorship and lack of payment to content creators. The only problem is that most people have not heard of it. Therefore, to dethrone youtube we have to create lots of publicity for Dtube. By promoting and talking more about steemit and the freedom that can be enjoyed by authors.

I see the Steem blockchain as something that's growing pretty naturally. At some point, YouTubers will start looking for alternatives.

Yes another way to advertise steem to people. Dtube.

The thing about Dtube is they still have much room to improve. Because of how raw it is, it probably finds itself hard to penetrate to the masses. Dtube is also quite unstable, taking longer to buff as usual.

Youtube on the other hand, has a really weird demonitizing policy that even takes comments into consideration which is out of the posters' control, this is not really fair.

YouTube is a slave to the rules of social commerce. Their censorship is a requirement demanded of them. They have failed to provide a personal style of service.

The beauty of zero censorship! I've used DTube a couple times... I think there are still some kinks to work out with, sometimes I am unable to load videos well... but the idea is solid! :)

Dtube is making great progress but still have a lot to fix to make it a great one mate! But still I prefer dtube to youtube since I joined Steemit!

it's the quality, D tube is digital and better.

Good knowing thanks for sharing.... really hope Dtube can reach the level of youtube.

I am steemit new-bie. Yout post is very intersting

Dtube is a gamer changer in my opinion, and its on its infancy... i have not forgotten how clumsly youtube used to be when it first started.. Im sure that one year from now Dtube is going to see huge youtubers jump onboard iuf not earlier

Cool @exyle

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm afraid I hadn't even heard of Dtube until I read your post. :-(
But I will actively look for it now you've given us all the reasons why.

Wich has been a blessing for me.

Which

:)

U-Toob didn't spring into existence instantly...it took a while...
So too with DToob....give it time.

@exyle,
If our product DTube is getting better and better, then it might be a great opportunity to STEEM block chain as well! Thank you for providing this great information!

Cheers~

Thanks for giving the chance to enjoy this beautiful news!!

Yes Dtube is a great concept for us but it needed to be more fine tune. In days to come with more users it will become mature.
Cheers!

Thank you @exyle and also thanks @bennierex today we know a great article only for you.

youtube is a pain and is becoming obsolete before the new proposals

Dtube is the only tube!

Absolutely. All my favorites have become demonetized and/or censored. Dtube is so much better. Easier to use too. @ironshield

Yeah it is gonna get better everyday and as soon as people realize that it is gonna hype more than ever .Best of luck DTUBE

Interesting think . This may be helpful as well.

Great post about Dtube.

@exyle - I like this news Sir. Dtube had a very bad time in last month & now it seems like fighting back.... Yes Sir, it can't compete with Youtube yet. But I wish it will be Sir.....

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I had a discussion with the creator of DTube soon after it was created. My biggest concern was 18% of the total earnings an post make goes to DTube whereas if a user does the same video at YouTube and then post it at Steemit, s/he can save this 18%. This is one big flaw that's keep users from using DTube.

Nice post @exyle.

Steem On!

Wow Great Research. This may help us

Thanks for the reminder. Can you upload a video to both platforms? Or does that blow the search engines minds?

Does the D in Dtube stand for "decentralized" ?

will DTube accept online advertisements like google adsense ?

dtube is really amazing for content creators as there is no censorship like you-tube but only regret is that they don't provide quality control of video resolution that's why most of the videos get stuck in between

Yeah a lot of content creators have been hit really hard on YouTube for sure.

I'll start using DTube when they stop prefixed tag spamming and I can embed multiple videos on my steem posts.