Hi everyone,
I know that I've said it before, but I think I'll begin every post with...
Thank you everyone for your continued love and support. You all amaze me!! :)
I've always liked to hear the Bad News first, so here it goes:
Has anyone heard of Burning Mouth Syndrome?
For the last few days, Brian's entire mouth and tongue have been inflamed, red, and unbelievably painful. He does have tumors on his tongue, so we thought it was that, but after visits to the doctor yesterday and today, he's been told he has Burning Mouth Syndrome, and besides Lidocaine Cream to numb things a bit, there doesn't seem to be any medications for it. I went online to research more, but then I thought, that I have all kinds of great people at my fingertips here, so what better people to ask, than you?! @gjones15 mentioned Apple Cider Vinegar, the doctor said stay away from spicy foods, carbonated drinks, alcohol and cinnamon, but that's about all we have to go on at the moment.
Any advice, personal experience or tips you have would be greatly appreciated by both of us!
So here's the Good News. We moved to a new apartment yesterday, just a few blocks away from our old one, but this one is on a raised first floor as opposed to the third, so that means a lot less stairs for Brian to have to manage. It also has a lovely little pool so that he can soak his tired bones in throughout the day when necessary. We are spending more and more time at home now, so I must admit that I am happy to be able to wander around a bit outside of our four walls and still be nearby if he needs me for anything. As you are well aware, I don't like to venture too far in case Brian has a seizure. Thanks to all of you and @davemccoy's fundraiser, we've got enough meds to last a long while, so hopefully there will be less seizures in our days. Thank you again. (I'm going to keep saying that forever :)
Here's the spiral staircase/death trap in our old apartment and Buddy testing the waters himself, versus the shorter staircase in our new place :)
This apartment has more windows and feels much brighter in every sense of the word. I even have a view of new life, these babies, from my kitchen window :)
It's night time now, so I'll get my own photos of the roof another day, but here are some that the rental agency took.
We are some distance from the ocean, but we can still see it from the roof. Nothing relaxes me more than that view!
Brian is so happy and relaxed here! Our old apartment was very tiny and he said it was terribly depressing lying in bed all day in the dark. The brightness and ability to be outside while still at home is such a blessing, and I have to thank our friends here in Playa del Carmen who found this gem for us. Another upside is the price; it's basically the same price as our last place, but 10 times the home. We feel very fortunate to spend our days here together and I feel it's so very important for Brian to be comfortable and happy during whatever time he has remaining.
I just stepped outside and snapped this photo of the moon; it is such a beautiful evening out!
I'm so happy to share our new home with all of you! Thank you again for your continued love and support! xo
And please, if there's anything you can tell me about Burning Mouth Syndrome, I would love to hear it!!
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Take a look here:
https://healthwyze.org/reports/687-how-to-naturally-cure-burning-mouth-syndrome
Think you will find it interesting for sure.
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Thank you so much for that! It certainly does sound like it's talking about us, doesn't it??!!
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This part really caught my eye:
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Sheesh!
That's why I'm thinking along the lines of foods with anti-inflammatory effects.
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I'm happy about the new apartment and it looks like you can sit and the pools and relax together, which is awesome!... But I am sad to hear about burning mouth, I have never heard of it. I hope some of the people posting here can help you.
I am happy that you all got such great support from the community and hopefully he can find some kind of medicine that can help with that pain!
Have a great week to both you and Brian, and enjoy that beautiful sun and the surroundings you now have! :)
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You are doing an amazing job Dave supporting people on this platform. That fundraiser was something truly special.
To @briancourteau and @lynncoyle1, isn't this platform just amazing? With people like Dave, eager to help anyone in his path without asking anything in return.
Your new apartment looks great and the pool seems like a nice place to relax.
I hope you will find a quick relief from the burning mouth so you can have one thing less to worry about.
Take care of each other!
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Thank you very much @danielsaori! To hear praise from people that I admire is very uplifting! So thank you again! :D
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Thank you @danielsaori! Dave really is an amazing guy and so is this platform, for that matter ;) Brian and I are still in awe of the community support and love we have received from everyone!
I hope Brian finds relief as well; it's the strangest thing and you're right, it would be nice to have one less thing to worry about.
Thank you for stopping by ;)
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Thanks Dave, we appreciate that!
Yes the burning mouth thing is weird to say the least! I'd never heard of it either, but after googling it, there are countless sufferers who've dealt with it for years! I'm not sure how.
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Im seeing vitamin deficiency plays a role in this. With his cancer I am sure this may be happening. iron, zinc, vitamin B-1, B-2, riboflavin, B-6, B-9 and B-12 are ones I would check to see. So foods and supplements that are high in those could be considered. Honey is a good one too.
Found this as well
https://draxe.com/burning-mouth-syndrome/
Burdock Root
Burdock root is a gentle herb that is healing to the nerves and cleansing to the blood. Burdock root is a food in some cultures. Take 2 capsules with each meal for at least 3 months. It can take time for the healing to be complete.
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/burning-mouth-syndrome.html
And also
Those are the things I have found, the rest is repetition. Hope there is something there that can help.
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Thank you so much for the information @foxyspirit!! It's a huge help and I'm going to look into all of it :)
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Hope you find a solution to ease the Burning Mouth.
The new place looks very nice. Less stairs and warm sunny pool sound like a perfect place for the two of you! A bar right by the pool sounds like paradise!
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Thank you @bengy:) The new place is pretty awesome...so relaxing, so I'm hoping we can get a handle on the burning mouth thing so Brian can actually enjoy it all!
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Hello, just read your post. I gave your feed a peek after your warm welcome in the pay it forward challenge.
Congrats on the new place. I have a suggestion for Brian's mouth. Try using oregano or Lavender oil. You may need to dilute it based on strength. It has many medicinal purposes, one of which is treatment of burning mouth syndrome. I lean towards Oregano as I already use it for congestion and my immune system.
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That's where I recognize your name from :)
Thank you for the tips! I've used Oregano oil before and never thought about it for this...the Lavender oil is a good idea too. Thanks again!
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It's basically the same price too?! That's great! And the roof pool looks amazing. You can see a bit of the ocean, so that's cool, but the ability just to be up there and rest while still being outside has got to be a big plus.
I honestly don't know anything about remedies for that, so my wife and I will just keep praying. If I hear of anything, I'll let you know.
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Thank you very much for that! I'll take all the prayers we can get :)
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Im not sure what to say to this, it is a medical problem that I know nothing of. But when it comes to medical I try to look for homeopathics and natural plant based stuff first. @earthmother has great insights on plants and all, not sure if she has heard of this or can help. I will try and do an investigation and get back to you on it.
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i just did a post on calendula. boosting vitamin b and d. Nutritional yeast, molasses are high in those. calendula tea would be plentiful down there. swoosh and spit! a cup a day would certainly not hurt! I pray that he finds relief. mouth pain has to be one of the worst. sending huge love to everyone!!! Congratulations on your new place!!
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Thank you @earthmother! I'm so glad that @foxyspirit called you over her...we an use all the help we can get! I'll have to look into the calendula tea for sure!
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It might not hurt for him to soak in it too. If you make a strong tea, and add it to his bath. I wonder if he is mineral deficient? Just trying to think of what is causing the mouth pain. Maybe probiotics/kefirs/kambucha to balance the gut floras? I suspect the med and treatments have exhausted his body. Xoxo i have been following you both for a little while now. My heart both aches and swells for you both. So much pain and yet so much love. Love prevails. Xoxo
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Awww you make my heart smile :)
Brian has been on and off antibiotics for over a month now, and I suspect that has something to do with it all. I've got him on some good probiotics at the moment and am hoping it helps.
I truly hope "love prevails"...it has so far <3
Thank you again for your advice and your love!
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I think you are both doing amazing! Navigating through everything wIth grace and love. As someone looking in, it's beautiful to see. If there is anything that ican help with, please drop a line. Blessings, peace and love to you both. Xoxo
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Awww thank you so much; that is a beautiful thing to hear. You are now my go-to for natural healing, so I do have a question : I've been reading about Alpha Lipoic Acid used for diabetic neuropathy; it's used to heal nerve damage and I saw some success with those who suffer from Burning Tongue as well. Any thoughts?
Thank you!
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I have heard good things about ALA. I would just read up on what Brian is taking for medicines and make sure that it is compatible. Try to find the most organic way to consume it. :)
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You are awesome! I just saw your "investigative" work comment and am soooo thankful for it!!
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So happy for you about your new home and more particularly, that it's making you and Brian happy. For the burning mouth syndrome, I have no clue. @practical though mentioned lavendar oil, and then it occurred to me that aloe juice and gel (with the bitters removed), and now available as health drinks might also help. Aloe vera is the best known and surely it must be available in health shops around you? From a brief stint in the aloe business, I know that the internal benefits of aloe are the same as those when it is applied topically - soothing and healing. In this case, I hope both, and with the emphasis on soothing. Hope that helps. Take care, both of you!
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Thank you @fionasfavourites :) I hadn't thought of aloe, and there's a drink I see here all the time with that as the main ingredient! We'll give it a try for sure !!
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Do, @lynncoyle1 and just make sure that as few preservatives as possible, expecially potassium sorbate. Also, if you can find yoghurt with aloe, and if @briancourteau can cope with dairy, that should also help with at least soothing the burning. Hope @briancourteau feels better soon.
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Thank you again. I agree on the potassium sorbate too. Funny enough, the doctor advised not having milk or dairy because it would coat the tongue especially and not allow it to 'breathe'. Not sure how I feel about that one :)
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Well, that would make sense. Dairy can promote the production of mucous and it has fats in it, so stick with the health drink, which you could mix with soothing fresh fruit juices like mango and others that are not acidic. Hope all of this helps. Must be so uncomfortable.
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All of this has been helpful! It's funny because most of it I'm aware of, but when you're in the throws of it all, you just don't seem to think of these things.
It's difficult to find non-acidic fruit as well. Banana and mango are pretty prevalent here, but blueberries for example cost a fortune! And really, most fruits are acidic. But truthfully, acidic or not, almost everything we try, hurts the poor guys mouth!
It is very uncomfortable. Brian says of all the pain he's so far experienced, this is the worst. Just doesn't seem fair!
Thank you again for all of your help :)
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No, it's not fair. Blueberries, here, are a hell of a price, too. Another soothing remedy could be rooibos tea and/or honeybush tea. Not sure if you can get it, but we made aloe drinks with both - precisely because of their soothing and healing properties, combined with anti-oxidants. Anyhow, that's me, and best to you and, of course, Brian! xx
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We've been drinking rooibus tea and trying several other suggestions here, but truthfully, nothing has been much help yet. During the night, his mouth gets so dry, that when he wakes up, it seems to take hours for the pain to settle, then the afternoon is ok for a few hours, but by evening, it's horrible again.
There's not much to say, I know, but thank you for the tips and well wishes. We will keep plugging away in the hopes of finding one that works!
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Congratulations on your new diggs ❤❤❤
The ocean view is amazing! Being on the deck near the pool would be wonderful. The sweet birds look so cozy!! It's crazy that Brian is experiencing something called 'burning mouth syndrome' i have never heard of that before. But, when i was recently going through dental issues, i definatel had burning tounge, and roof of mouth. It was the strangest thing. It's mostly gone now. But, is still there slightly. Have no idea if it's similar 😫. Has he tried oil pulling ti help the pain? Or cool water rinse? I hope it doesn't last too long for him 😔. That's no fun. Beautiful full moon blessings! Thank-you foe sharing a picture of the Mexican moonlight! Hugs, Love and healing energy to you Peaceful Warrior 🌸❤🌸
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Hey! You changed your profile pic...looks great :)
Thanks for the kind words of encouragement; it really is the strangest thing and it's something we've never heard of before as well. Hopefully with everyone's help here, we can sort it all out!
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Hey Lynn ❤ Thank-you!! You're welcome. It's my pleasure 🌸 i hope you can remedy the situation ASAP. HUGS
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I'm so happy about the better living space. Having light and happiness is so important. I'm so glad that you are getting so much awesome support. Your posts are really making me realize what is important in life.
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Oh @byn ...that's the best thing for me to hear. The fact that something good and worthwhile is coming from all of this...like there's a sense of purpose to it. You have no idea how that makes me feel, because honestly, there are days when I wonder why, and your two line comment just answered it! Thank you :) <3
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That's great news about the apartment. I guess it's also great that you at least know what is causing the burning. It gives you something to go on anyhow.
Enjoy your new digs and keep things nice and mellow.
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Thanks so much! The apartment is great...and I only know "nice and mellow" :)
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"Burning Mouth Syndrome" - really? Sounds like a misnomer for "Doctor Hasn't an F-in Clue"... as many "Syndromes" are...
I'm thinking in the realm of general anti-inflammatories such as:
cinnamon
raw honey
garlic
cat's claw (though you may need to check the contraindications, some of them may apply to your husband.)
Seems that a topical might not help a whole lot though unless it was swabbed around the mouth frequently.
Best wishes to you two - I hope I can at least jog your mind a bit and help you on a good path.
Nice to see your photos as well.
(Adding this part...)
I'm just thinking that doing a GAPS style diet with him might do him a world of good. It feels like an auto-immune type of thing, to be honest... Those tend to respond well with GAPS (google that one, it's well worth a read in any case) followed with a primal-style diet (see Mark Sisson's Daily Apple for info on his take of the paleo diet.) Just some more thoughts, anyway.)
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haha yep, I thought the same thing!
Glad you enjoyed the photos; I'm hoping we can sort this latest mess out so that Brian can enjoy it all too!
I'll check out GAPS. I think his immune system is pretty shot, all things considered, so this comes as no surprise unfortunately. Stay tuned...and thanks again!
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First off, YAY! So glad you're in and settled, and your new place looks totally AMAZEBALLS!
Next, the miserable thing about burning mouth (from my understanding) is that there are about a zillion different causes, hence a zillion different ways to treat it. I had a brief bout of it a few years back, as did my mother (years ago for her as well, and I don't remember what she figured out - I'll ask her), and in my case it seemed to have been triggered by my yeast sensitivity (long story involving unnecessary antibiotics during my c-sections).
If I recall correctly, I did what I always do when I have a yeast flare - lots of water, no coffee or alcohol (ARGH!!!!), no sugar (including chocolate - double ARGH!!!), start taking acidophilus capsules and eating yogurt (supposed to be plain, hence sugar-free yogurt, but I always cheat and do either blueberry or banana - LOL), and make sure I'm getting plenty of rest and taking my vitamins (b complex gummy, vit D oil capsules, garlic oil capsules in particular).
If I remember anything else, I'll shout out. In the meantime, sending good juju to Brian, and hoping his mouth clears up fast!
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First things first, thanks for the sparkly juju! love it!
Brian has been off and on antibiotics for a month now, so I'm beginning to wonder if that is the culprit. And please, stop the madness...chocolate, alcohol and coffee?? What is wrong with you? :) Actually, the doctor told him the same! The acidophilus is a good idea though; I hadn't thought of that one. I think the extra vitamins wouldn't hurt either.
Thanks for the tips! We appreciate it :)
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You're very welcome!
(and I know - how are people supposed to exist without vitamins C and A - LMAO)
By the way, I updated the gif that I updated on your thank you post (say that three times fast, LOL!). It got a bit buried under all the love, so I figured I'd share it again, so you don't miss it.
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omg thank you so much!! We love it <3 <3
...and I did try to say it fast three times lol
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YAY!
and, LOL! 😊
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It looks like @foxyspirit and some others have given you great suggestions on how to treat the burning mouth syndrome on your own. I like the baking soda idea the best (but I'm not an expert so what do I know—it just seems simple).
I'm glad the new apartment is working out much better so far and hopefully that will continue to be the case for a long time to come. Being able to see the ocean is very comforting, even from a distance. Amazing how that works.
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Thanks Glen...I'm going with "simple" as well. Good ol' baking soda; works wonders.
The new place is pretty awesome. I too hope we can enjoy it for a "long time to come"!! The view of the ocean is and always has been a natural healer for me :)
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I can't imagine how hectic it must have been to move while you had a lot of other things going on. Less stairs is definitely better. Glad to hear you are comfortable in the new place. ;0)
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Yes, hectic is one word for it...I have several others that I won't share here haha
It's done, and it was all worth it! Thank you ;)
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Unfortunately the only insight I can offer on anything even remotely like Burning Mouth Syndrome is likely to be exceptionally unhelpful as it sounds like the aftermath of some potent shots I drank when I was working in India a few years ago.
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haha you're right...so not helpful lol I totally appreciate you stopping by though...and I really want to hear more about those "potent shots"! What was it? :)
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Well it started with tequila....and I can't recall exactly what else. I do know that between 5 of us we finished 45 shots inside 3 hours (this was after 2 hours of free beer & wine at a hotel bar function). We were all a bit dusty the following morning I can tell you.
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hahaha it always starts with tequila :)
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How does the saying go?
1 Tequila
2 Tequila
3 Tequila
Floor!
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hahaha Mine was always,
1 Tequila
2 Tequila
3 Tequila
More!
Lightweight haha
Just kidding...3 and I'm out!
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These days I'm very much a drinking lightweight. I'm content with a couple of cold craft beers then a nap
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haha same!
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Glad you guys got moved and OMG that is an amazing view. Sucks that Brian is going through something else on top of everything else. I hadn't heard of Burning Mouth Syndrome. With some quick research, I got pretty much the sam answers you did. One of the articles from the Mayo Clinic said to try to cut out anything acidic, coffee, tea, fruit juices. To stay away from alcohol, mouthwashes and such. Look for a high ph water and keep the mouth as moist as possible.
<3 to both of you!!!
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Thank you for the tips @tryskele :) It is a rip-off that he now has this; talk about adding insult to injury!! Hopefully it settles down soon...we've gotten a lot of advice here, so we'll start giving it all a try!
Thanks for the love ;)
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You're very welcome. It is, I don't doubt that either of you are thinking enough is enough. I really hope it does calm down soon. I can't believe the answers you got and I got more frustrated the more I looked because it was the same thing. Lowering acidity in his system make sense. As for a cause too many to count and I don't think you guys want to go through the hassle to find out it's probably the 1 medication he has to have.
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Our words exactly !!
haha you're probably right; that is the way things have been going lately!
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Thanks for sharing with us with your journey :) Glad you found a new home and both of you can enjoy your days with a better environment. Thats a cute little pool u have right there 😄. Hang in there lynn! We are supporting you! ❤
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Thank you very much @michelleloh168 :) Your words of support warm my heart!!
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Wheee! The place looks nice especially that pool just perfect for you two! As long as you two are happy :)
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Thank you @zord189! I love your excitement :)
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I hope somebody can help you with tips on the burning mouth syndrom.
Other than that, i’m so happy for you guys. The new appartment sounds a great (and I’m sooo jealous of your pool!!)
Have a great week, enjoying your new place!
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Thanks @simplymike. I've received a lot of advice here so I'll continue researching it all and go from there. The pool is pretty awesome; it really is just a 'soaker tub' but I'll take it!! :)
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This is such a great post Lynn!! Thank you for sharing your experience with us in detail. I really love how honest and pure your words are. Great choice of apartment ss well. Looks so relaxing especially the pool side. You guys deserve to have an amazing time. Wishing you and Brian a pleasant stay.
Xo
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Thank you so very much @elsiekjay :) I'm hoping that we can get a handle on Brian's mouth pain so that he can enjoy it all too!
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So happy to hear that you found a place where you are both more comfortable and it looks really nice. Unfortunately I don't know anything about burning mouth syndrome but I'm sure someone else around here could offer some good advice to help ease the discomfort.
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Thank you @jusipassetti :) I've got plenty of links and tips to go on now...we'll see where it all leads. Fingers crossed that even one thing someone suggested here works!
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yes , it is usually caused by a single thing . could be dentures , vitamins or other medication . Its a pain in the ass to pin point the cause . but try one thing at a time over a couple of days
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Brian has been on and off antibiotics for a month now, and I'm beginning to think that's the cause of it all. Yes, "pain in the ass" for sure...but it's all we can do to try and figure out what's going on. Thanks for your support as always ;)
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So glad to hear you've got a new living space that works better for you both and gives you a lovely view of the sea. Hopefully you will both find that calming and rejuvenating.
Heaps of love as always. 💙
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Thank you @gillianpearce:) It is so calming and rejuvenating...those are both perfect words to describe it. Now if we can just figure out a way to calm Brian's painful mouth, it'll be even better!
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Hopefully you will soon @lynncoyle1. I hope one of the ideas someone has posted here will be the solution. 💙
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Hello @lynncoyle1 and @briancorteau, I'm happy to see you've found a nicer place to live. This looks like it will ease each of your souls a little. It also looks like you have plenty of folks who have done some great research into burning mouth syndrome (those 3 words don't deserve to be capitalized). I wish you both the best!
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Thank you @jbreheny! "ease our souls" is a lovely way to put it! It certainly has had a calming effect on both of us for sure. And I agree,
Who knew there was such a thing??
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That new apartment looks so nice. I hope Brian feels better now that the environment has lighten up. I like that overlooking view from the pool area :)
It's my first time to encounter the Burning Mouth Syndrome. I hope you find a better cure.
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Thank you @wanderlass! The view is pretty amazing :)
We had never heard of that syndrome either; so weird! I hope we find a cure too..thank you again :)
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What a blessing to have a brighter place for Brian and those little birdies to bring joy and peace. So happy for you both.
Much love to you both!
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Thank you very much @youhavewings!
Our cat went crazy tonight because one of the little birds took his first flight and fluttered against our window for a few seconds, then went right back in his nest. So cute...and I'm glad ours is an indoor cat because he certainly has his eye on the little things! :)
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Maybe your cat will get used to them :) I never would have thought our cat, Mina, would get used to our cockatiels (she is definitely a huntress), but we've now come to the place where she can lay in the sun and just watch them without trying to hunt them. Of course, I say that with great caution ;) Mina is addicted to these videos for cats - your kitty might enjoy them, too. She'll jump up to my screen every day and try to find the video to watch. We joke that she needs her own computer because she's taking over mine.
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hahaha video for cats...I've heard everything now :)
Actually today, the baby birds made their way to the window ledge and our cat saw them and was jumping frantically up at the window, making that weird noise cats make ;) He was obsessed with it all day. I did get to watch the mother bird return several times today to feed them...so darn cute.
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Hey, don't knock the cat video channel ;) LOL
I love that you have baby birds outside your window and they are sharing this life with you. I have that on my deck all day long and it brings me so much joy. You needed that.
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So glad the new home has made you more cheerful, a good start in view and lighting to add some joy.
Brian suffering with his mouth, the first thing that came to mind is Rooibos tea with a little honey to sooth (no milk, no sugar not too much honey it will affect the tummy). I enjoy drinking it hot or cold so here is a link to find out more....
https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/beverage/health-benefits-of-red-rooibos-tea.html
What I did for a dear friend suffering throat cancer was grind down Macadamia nuts to a pulp, she would take about half a teaspoon and found it soothing for the mouth and throat. Please check with your doctor before introducing anything new to the diet, since sometimes we think helping is not a help at all and conflicts with drugs in use.
https://www.naturalfoodseries.com/15-benefits-uses-macadamia-nuts/
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I have Rooibos tea too! Brian loves it, but I never even thought to give him some :) Thank you for that, and the tip on macadamia nuts. I'll have a look at both links for sure! I appreciate you taking the time to try and help us out @joanstewart! :)
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Only a pleasure, hope you find something to help, mention of aloe vera would be a good one to look into as well. Sending hugs, keep smiling.
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Thank you again!
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My mom uses apple cider vinegar since I was a boy. It sure does help. Thanks for sharing about that. It is truly an amazing medicine, a remedy.
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Thank you @joeyarnoldvn! It seems to be the one thing that is helping a bit right now. Smart woman your mom :)
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Awesome.
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Not so happy for seeing bad news and good news in the same place .
But , now , it is done .
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I guess that is just life...gotta take the good with the bad :)
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Umm , even thought it is not likely , we need to face it .
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Thank you for letting us know about the burning mouth syndrome, @lynncoyle1
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I'm hoping we figure out a way to cure it!
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Congratulations on your new home! Glad to hear Brian is happier there! Every little bit helps!
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Thank you Roger; it is a great "find" for sure! Hope all is well with you guys :)
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I thought 'Burning Mouth Syndrome' was something to do with Trump.
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haha I'm going to give you that one :)
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