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lmao. I think this hole debate is so dumb and nonsensical. They say it's not living life because it requires the mother womb.. Would they say the same about brain eating parasites? Are they none living life forms for they need to be in your skull to live? If only the these people referred to fetuses as parasites at least then there would be some honesty.

No one is saying its not life. That is a straw man argument.

However, an individual has no right to draw resources from another individual. For example, even if I were dying of kidney failure, I have no right to attach myself to your body and use your kidney's to filter my blood. I can't force you to keep me alive. That would be against your bodily autonomy,

So, despite being alive and having rights, I still don't have a right to use your body.

The same logic can apply to a fetus.

I guess the only real answer to this problem is for science to create a way to transfer a fetus from the mothers womb to an artificial womb that can sustain its life. I'm pretty sure this would satisfy all sides.

Yes, I think it would.
Although, by the time we have the type of technology, would any woman actually carry their own baby at all? Why burden yourself for 9 months if you could use an artificial womb?

Then what happens to humanity? I believe women gain just as much from being pregnant as the child does...just in different ways.

Lol :-)

very funny!

Only fetuses? Lol.

Yup, I don't get the Libs. They support, sometimes happily, infanticide yet are staunchly against the death penalty. Personally, I don't believe in either.

If I was dying of liver failure, could I attach myself to your body and borrow your bile production? Why or why not?

Being against the death penalty is a mathematical judgement. At this time, we cannot guarantee with 100% certainty that a convicted person is guilty. There are enough cases of our justice system incarcerating an innocent person. This means that with the death penalty as a punishment and enough time, you will likely kill an innocent person. Folks are against the death penalty because they would rather not run the risk at all of killing an innocent person by mistake, negligence or otherwise.

I agree with you. I'm against the death penalty as well. I'm sure the man has executed many innocent people. I'm not sure what you are after with your question though. so thanks for that.

A kidney is not the same as a fetus. Maybe a better analogy might work. But for a fetus as a kidney id say...if your kidney is malfunctioning get rid of it. But if u have a child and it is not harming a woman and risking her life on a level equiv to kidney failure...then this breaks down logically. This is especially true if the woman is pregnant due to her own indescretions...

Killing is killing. Sometimes there is a rational reason for it. Most the time...there isnt.

The type of organ is not the point of the analogy. The logic is stressing the dependence.

I, as a living human with rights, cannot attach myself to you in order to survive. I can't force that on you. I can't force you to take care of me and keep me alive via your body. Yes, I will die without you supporting me biologically.

If you refused to let me use your body, would you consider that killing?
If you refused to let me use your body, could the government step in and force you to allow me to use it to keep myself alive?

In the same way, a fetus, which is not a separate legal entity, cannot force itself on a mother in order to survive. It can't force that on a mother for 9 months (and neither can the government.) And yes, the fetus will die without the support biologically.

due to her own indescretions...

So, it sounds like you are more pro-consequence and pro-punishment than you are pro-rights.

When you have an itch and scratch your arm, you will get dead skin cells and living skin cells. Do you consider it killing when you scratch away 100s of living cells?

That s funny 😂

Wow it's crazy :)

A fetus cannot survive outside of a mother, so those fetuses would all be dead.
Additionally, a human can't survive on mars sans protective gear, so again, they'd all be dead.

Basically, this is quite a silly meme.

Have you ever seen a meme that wasn't silly?

Lolz.....it's crazy haha

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