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ankapolo (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

i often find myself just grabbing both pills at once and swallowing them before the person offering the choice even realizes what happened... the result is both awe and also a dark realization... we are complex systems, trying to defeat the inevitable chaos... are we just pitri-dishes inside the lab called "universe" ? and the universe is really concerned with the same problem we are? survival? still there is awe, I guess we need intensives like 'awe' in order to reach beyond our own survival... and look for the survival of the universe... and i'm not even high LOL

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Hands down, best comment this has received yet. 😎

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ankapolo (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Omg thank you @rok-sivante! I was laughing so hard this morning, i have no idea where this quantum soup of words came from... must be a combination of TED talks and me wining down 🍷 to sleep when i came across your post... i'm glad that it gave you a laugh though 😆 i always enjoy your posts too!

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

Hats off to you @ankapolo... though that sounded trippy as hell indeed :D

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ankapolo (59) · 7 years ago

haha, why thank you @spiritualmax, i'm one trippy banana 😄

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tfame3865 (74) · 7 years ago

Wow bravo to this

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pojan (67) · 7 years ago

Surely most games have a level, and the most important is how someone gets the key to level up to the next level. Of course this is very true as what you say, to reach the next level we need energy, we need strength, process, and consistent in facing the existing problems. And of course with Understanding, like what you have said, understanding, understanding and understanding. At least we need to learn how to defeat some powerful heroes in a game, and certainly not easy, this requires understanding, we need to learn and we have to find the weak point. Well how to get that understanding, of course by digging, searching and finding the right steps from some people who have successfully passed this level.

thank you for giving your best. @rok-sivante.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

your welcome.

and a great recap. nice energy radiating from this comment. 😇

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erh.germany (64) · 7 years ago

I find it almost impossible to show another person what level of my development I am at. Linguistically this is difficult to convey and takes many detours. The way of communication seems to have more to do with the form of resonance willingness, as I try to approach another. Here on Steem and elsewhere I experienced that what is not said often has a greater effect on the receiver than what was said. The affection or dislike swinging in the background plays an important role. If you imagine being in a large loop (cycle) and standing in a certain position, it is almost impossible for someone to stand in exactly the same position as you. He'd basically have to be you for there to be a deep understanding. Verbal language is often more of a hindrance than a connector. So it is not a level (which I think is more like a hierarchy) but rather a loop, fed by feedback from the past and extending its effects far into the future. Collectively and individually.

Have we forgotten something? I don't think so. Everything can be remembered when I know where I want to look. When I look at myself, I look at you at the same time. The universe I stare into stares back at me the same way. But explain that to someone...

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

I find it almost impossible to show another person what level of my development I am at. Linguistically this is difficult to convey and takes many detours.

Perhaps because a person can only see/understand, depending on where they are at. It may not be possible to grasp what is many levels beyond us.

And perhaps it’s not a matter meant to be conveyed. I mean, what’s the ultimate point of trying to “show” anyone...? Versus, perhaps atthe higher levels, the responsibility becomes to use the power at those levels in service - more adapting to where others are at, weaving the spells that act as an invitation for them to level up a step or two...

Verbal language is often more of a hindrance than a connector.

A gift and a curse... but, one of the tools we might utilize until the lifetimes we achieve full telepathic capabilities, lol...

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erh.germany (64) · 7 years ago

oh, yes. That makes sense. If I would be able to always be in service to others without wanting and needing something myself that would be a lot more of a life without burden. Still, I long for being understood maybe in the same amount as I want others to find their higher spirits. Even though knowing that life is so much easier and happier in helping my fellow human beings I ever so often crush down because of some severe emotional states of friends, family or clients. It saddens me still to see suffering and not being able to "help it" (me).

"Invitation", yes, it's always better to invite instead of debate or trying forcefully to be understood.

It's a high art of being together.

Right now I am telepathing to you that Rupert Sheldrake is right in saying that it is not "super-natural" but "natural". :-)))

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Still, I long for being understood maybe in the same amount as I want others to find their higher spirits...

At what specific point do you feel you'd be content, where the longing would stop?

i.e. ONE person understanding? or how many? to what degree? how would you KNOW they TRULY understood? etc...

(question posed for ponderance - no need to answer here, unless you desire...)

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erh.germany (64) · 7 years ago

I want to answer:

After the other one asks me questions which lead me to the point where I can see clearly and understand myself. The sharper the questions are the better. The more inconvenient they are, the better I come to the truth - then the longing stops.
I feel understood when I can sense interest from the person I am with. That he or she questions my motivations without having an own idea about how my answer should be. In those moments I feel deeply understood. It doesn't come immediately, in particular, when I felt cornered or pressured. More easily and immediately: Having been understood is created through those open and calm questions I can openly and calmly respond to.

So, questioning signals me the other truly understands me (he wouldn't ask if not).

Also, the feeling of having been understood comes through artworks from others (music, texts, paintings, pictures, architecture, songs etc.) - then I long for telling the other one how much I love his/her piece.

I am talking about all people I am engaging with. Every encounter has the potential to understanding. On whom I am focusing on, that is the person I like to understand me. To a degree that I can feel satisfaction (leaving the scene without wanting more or less from the other).

In answering your questions a good thing happens: I notice that I already had this experiences of me feeling totally understood by people. Close ones as well as strangers. And that I can stop being needy. Also, that, in the end, it's not the other who must understand me but I myself. This is not new to me but still not bad to repeat it often enough (and, probably even more frequently).

I notice as well that wanting to renew "being understood" has to do with occasions and the ever-changing life. During work and private encounters, it is needed to make oneself clear.

Understanding happens in every moment of my life.

Thank you, that was a welcomed service for me. You talked to my higher self (inner authority, you name it). It changed my morning and will have an influence on the day. Until the next moment is going to hit me, where I feel misunderstood:=D ... will then hopefully be so geistesgegenwärtig (German for ... "spiritually aware") that I'll remember the learning.

Thank you.

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intuitivejakob (65) · 7 years ago

From my experience, the codes fully accessible when we are accessing the zeropoint. No pill needed there, because there's no left or right configuration obscuring the lens.

It's wholeness within the trust of the divine will of the eye that sees all.

We must take responsibility for the temple. Within this space, truth descends. Nowhere to reach, all is within.

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shello (62) · 7 years ago

It's been a while! Happy to see more posts about multidimensional existence.

I feel that the same piece of information has significantly different meaning at different levels of understanding. This world we all exist in is something bizarre yet astonishing. It goes with the thoughts of going back in time.

We always want that new knowledge we currently possess at an earlier time in life. It shocks me that alternate choices also existed at the time, but it is the level of awareness alone that determines the path that gets chosen.

With love,
Shello

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

indeed, well-said - there's always deeper levels to access upon revisits with heightened awareness, things making sense in new and different ways as consciousness expands... :-)

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shello (62) · 7 years ago

Mhmm! The more I learn and expand my awareness, the clearer my past lessons become c: 💕

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helmibireuen (61) · 7 years ago

Everything about the quantum influence on one's life is more about how they perceive and understand the best state in themselves and their souls, so it is very likely that they are able to go through the stages that have been passed in every step of every person's life, it is very possible that everyone will be able to do the best in every single occasion that comes in his life, so that ultimately one's success in perfecting the aspect of his conscious natural life by being able to calculate and be able to combine all elements and elements accordingly so that the expected results will be achieved, very deep writing from you @rok-sivante

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tfame3865 (74) · 7 years ago

The next level hmm, is there a next level? yes but it constantly keeps coming and coming as all level in life is definitely the next level and it never ends. To stay a float in the journey of the next level, one have to be consistent and above all focus and to seal it all, pray to God to give you your heart desire so as not to get your heart goal countered.

Bottom line
Avoid shortcut, even though it comes, makes sure is been worked for @rok-sivante

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innerspace (46) · 7 years ago (edited)

I havent been to steemit for almost half a year. When I last checked in, I couldnt find quality content around the topics that where of interest to me. It seems a lot has changed.
When I searched for some tags interesting to me, I came up on your post, and I was puzzled, that such “niche” topics now have such competent writers on this platform.

I can only say...
great writing, a true gem, thanks!
You made me give steemit a second glance :)

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Down The Sacred Geometry Rabbit Hole: From The Architecture Of Creation To The Evolution Of Quantum AI... PART ONE (of four)

rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Cool. 😎

There are some gems buried in my collection over the last couple years, though this is one of my best/favourite that might be of interest:

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innerspace (46) · 7 years ago

Cool, Ill check it out. Btw thanks for resteeming some of my content ;) I feel honored.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

I rarely resteem, but t’was a quality post, and like the idea of sharing such perspectives on psychedelics with a wider audience who may not have dipped their toes into the realms yet... :-)

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obaidb2 (57) · 7 years ago

Quality writing...
It kind of got me into it...
Loved to read the post...

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mumin007 (53) · 7 years ago

Simple, but not necessarily easily. Nor quick.

Sometimes people think that easy is simple and quick but its not true, simple can be lot of time consuming and cannot be that easy. Simple means that the process isn't that much complex, however it can be lot of time consuming.

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alejandromata (56) · 7 years ago

Is the decision about the pills ours? Or the initial conditions at the moment of choosing already defined our decision ?. Do we have any certainty about this game?.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

My answers:

Yep.
Possibly sometimes.
Many might not.

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steemit-fairy (66) · 7 years ago

This game is new to me. thanks for sharing details :)

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

But of course not.

The game is life.

;-)

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muhasib (53) · 7 years ago

Shortcuts may exist. But must be earned.

success has got no shortcuts, if you want to be a successful man go work hard coz hard work pays..

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

🙌

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cryptosharon (69) · 7 years ago

The blue pill holds contentment and the red pill contains knowledge from within. Is it all lies?

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

No. Just different levels of truth, different constructs, different matrixes.

And then again, like Robert Anton Wilson used to articulate, we’re all in our own individual reality tunnels. So what is true for one person, may not necessarily be for another...

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cryptosharon (69) · 7 years ago

A view that contrasts in a great degree with solipsism and its broad family of relativistic theories. Thank you for the quote. I'll be reading more about Robert Anton Wilson.

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alexaventuria (67) · 7 years ago

From my experience it is only a part of our ego which fights for its survival at all costs, pushing us into the role of victim good to external circumstances.

In fact, it was these deeply engrained belief systems circulating in the spiritual community which temporarily caused me the most inner trouble many years ago. Until I realized: YOU decide. People believe what they want to believe, but Quantity doesn't make it more or less right.

What I found a very powerful method was to envisage how I want it to be for me. And because I followed that inner voice of my Heart I eventually received the evidence thereof, manifesting itself from the inside out, beginning with deep internal realizations or consciously leaving my body to then drag this expansion of Awareness right into the physical realm. Of course I had some fears but I noticed that these fears were triggered by my externally conditioned thoughts. Imagine how often I had sighs of relief so liberating was it to see and experience that all my conditioned fear thoughts didn't hold any Truth because everything unfolded much more beautiful than I thought, like:"Puhh, my thought-made fears were meaningless after all"

When we don't know about something, our thoughts have a strong tendency towards creating fear for the unknown. It is because our ego gets mad when it loses control.

So regarding this reincarnation thing, it is exlusively about letting go the according thought spiral and belief system, realizing that we NOW have the choice to create as WE want it, having Trust that we'll get the evidence thereof. And getting this evidence once alone is enough to always have some tangible memory to resort to should we ever get entangled in these spirals again.

😃Ok, this was too long again, sorry!!

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Preach, sista! 🙌

it is only a part of our ego which fights for its survival at all costs

Survival level of consciousness.

And the beliefs in the “spiritual” communities... yep. lol. :-)

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izzrael (49) · 7 years ago

Simple, but not necessarily easily. Nor quick.

Perhaps that’s why it typically takes lifetimes.

I was told good things take a while to achieve and when they are achieved with more care they stay longer

It's simple but requires total attention and time

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kemal13 (68) · 7 years ago

Hi, :)
I'm the one of chairman at Indonesian Steemit Community Chapter Banda Aceh. Thank you for support some Steemian in our country. Thanks a lot :)

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Your welcome. It's an inspiration to see how strongly you've been growing community engagement there, and a pleasure to support... 🙏

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kemal13 (68) · 7 years ago

You welcome, we can support each other and let's grow together. Thanks again 🙂

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adigleh (45) · 7 years ago

Saya sangat menyukai postingan @rok-sivante karena saya belum mahir dalam membuat tulisan. Akan tetapi saya sangat mengaguminya tentang postingan yang berharga.

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lunaticpandora (69) · 7 years ago

The luxuries of modern times and the fights created by certain political actors on both sides of the spectrum have made us disconnect ourselves further from the higher spiritual plane, stranding us in fights without meaning and living tumultuous lifestyles that lead to no emotional or spiritual satisfaction to our souls.

There is no one-size-fits-all method, strategy, or path. For each individual, the journey is unique.

Our modern lifestyles have made us lazy and we try to walk the path where others found success, hence we have put humanity into a box or path of events that are supposed to lead you to success but almost everyone ends up in debt, dissapointed or unfulfilled when they realized the path they where set on was not their own and now they have wasted a huge part of their lives walking a meaningless path.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

The luxuries of modern times and the fights created by certain political actors on both sides of the spectrum have made us disconnect ourselves further...

Victim-speak.

While there may be some element of Truth in that, such is no longer a constructive narrative. That time has passed.

What might have been need not be our shackles now. Such a phase might be one part of the game, but we’re past the point of blame, ready to step up, change the narrative, and take individual responsibility for recreating new, empowering possibilities.

Otherwise, we’ve merely been caught in the time loop, victim to nothing other than our own limited vision to see from different perspectives...

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lunaticpandora (69) · 7 years ago

You imply I tried to speak like a victim by picking apart a small piece of my comment but maybe I didn't express my point across properly or maybe you decided to not read the rest but I was trying to imply that the only way to happiness and fulfillment is to not walk the beaten paths, to stay away from tree paths everyone else takes and most of all, separate ourselves from what society tries to impose on us, picking sides.

Picking sides is what is dividing us and we get no benefits from it, that's what I meant with the political actors influencing us that you tu to paint as victim speak.

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godsngh1 (48) · 7 years ago (edited)

Very few might be lucky with so called short cut but there is no short cut hard work pays. That's why I always stand on the never give up ways. As you have stated, this is a high level way of talking which many may not understand and many will understand in different ways.

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

Hello, most may see the link you dropped as spam. There's a "rule" or should I say more of etiquette in dropping links:

Link must be related to subject of discussion or help buttress a fact you are trying to pass across.
It should also be preferably past payout, that way everyone will know you are not promoting the said link.
If in doubt you can just say the person should visit the last post you made to take a look. That way it won't be as obstructive as this.

No one really told me this as a beginner, but I hardly drop links in people's blog unless I had to. Good luck.

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godsngh1 (48) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the advise this is my first time though but not promoting my post the post number 2 is 6 days old and I did post number one because it is have some points as well I also advise people who beg for upvote. Thanks for your kindness let me edit and delete it at once @greenrun

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

You are welcome. Keep steeming 🙏

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

Curious, as it appears he may have edited the post before I saw it, as no link now and seems relevant to some of the content - what was the link to?

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godsngh1 (48) · 7 years ago

No sir I did not have any bad intentions just trying to emphasize on what you talked about sorry for doing that but I deleted it when @greenrun advised me sorry once again

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

Oh, it was this post he made six days ago.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

ah, yeah, that woulda been rather spammy.

thanks for the service of checking and speaking up. 🙏

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

Thank you too. :)

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

The red pill any day. I'd love to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

in that case, bring on the DMT... 😎

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

This is mesmerising enough, one more stare at it and someone may be hypnotised :D

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platomaniac (62) · 7 years ago

Red pill now! Red is love and love is nice . Nice love read the post

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acehpungo (62) · 7 years ago

At first I thought this paper was about architectural elements of a building, but when reading it just as we enjoy writing philosophy. The shock effect is amazing.

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bonbons (54) · 7 years ago

Amazing post...

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pleasestop (51) · 7 years ago

Please Stop

In your your last 100 comments you used 34 phrases considered to be spam and you made this exact same comment 1 times. You've received 0 flags and you may see more on comments like these. These comments are the reason why your Steem Sincerity API classification scores are Spam: 53.30% and Bot: 0.80%

Please stop making comments like this and read the ways to avoid @pleasestop and earn the support of the community.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

AWESOME initiative!!! 😇💖

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pleasestop (51) · 7 years ago

I appreciate the generous support!

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tfame3865 (74) · 7 years ago

Ha ha ha I love this

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marzukidewantara (46) · 7 years ago

Reading this paper, I'm like a primary school student who goes to college, move on and hopefully I understand finally

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

yet, these realms and dynamics cannot really be studied or "understood" by the mind - rather, explored and experienced...

and eventually, we all do - whether in this lifetime, or thousands down the timeline... ✨

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rijalaronaceh (71) · 7 years ago

Sir .. @rok-sivante I read your post, I see about chemistry and energy problems .. I like chemistry .. but still I do not understand all cosmic law issues and others.

Overall your post is a post of science that I need to learn again ..

Ohya sir .. thank you very much for sharing information with us through this post.

For you my senior @rok-sivante ..

WarmRegards from me .. @rijalaronaceh

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Tip:

The “>” symbol in markdown code is usually meant to be used when quoting someone/something.

Using it like you have here, wherein you write your own text, is a bit confusing... ;-)

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rijalaronaceh (71) · 7 years ago (edited)

Excuse me sir..
Sir @rok-sivante i am use that symbol to make writing and display this comment to be beautiful .. yes maybe you will like to see it look different.
But.. Thank You very much for your suggestion.. i am very glad you reply my comment.

Oh yes sir .. can i am join with you? I am from Indonesia sir ..
Thank you very much for all your kindness ..

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rijalaronaceh (71) · 7 years ago

Sir @rok-sivante. I see you very much help the Indonesian Stemians with your full attention. I am very happy with it.

Thank you very much because you always help us, and if I may also hope that I also belong to the Stemians who are always with you and get your attention and help from you.

Once again sir .. i say thousands of thanks for you.

I pray that you will succeed always in every step and your work.

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hermanlc (52) · 7 years ago

a good philosophy. Let's improve an element with a sequence of key ideas in order to moor us not forget how important the blue pill and a red pill in a game and raise the level of our respective

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only.home (53) · 7 years ago

Red pill or blue pill. The choice is each of ours.

life is an option, do not be afraid to choose. also do not be rash in choosing. exceptional input.
Thank you for sharing knowledge.
sweet regards..

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spellmaker (62) · 7 years ago

Damn, this was psychedelic.
Beautiful and thoughtful writing. Just what @spellmaker loves!

Thank you for being here!

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

🙏💖

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adiza (54) · 7 years ago

great motivation Mr @rok-sivante
all need hard work and process to beat the world !!

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faizarfatria (55) · 7 years ago

it is quite hard to understand the meaning inside your writing, this is deep. what I can understand is all the process in our life is something that always bring people to work hard but. the shortcut is almost unavailable but there is a chance if we try to find it.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

There are levels to it. Lol.

Would be interesting to see if you returned to read it a month, 6 months, a year, five years from now, what different then you might discover than now... :-)

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zero-infinity (52) · 7 years ago

I threw some cards in response to your last line to get a better idea of what you might be talking about. Here is my analysis on the bottom portion of the post.

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jubagarang (62) · 7 years ago

Nutritional, emotional, mental, physical, spiritual.

Really deep that is implied in every word you write. Yes, I read every pastist and tried to get in every word that made me fall. not easy I agree, and all need super energy

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innerstellar (53) · 7 years ago

Brilliant!

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tfq86 (59) · 7 years ago

this a high level talk, i try to understand it carefully. much meaning contain in your talk @rok-sivante

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himshweta (60) · 7 years ago

Its been long since we forgot but how can we just choose to remember and would that make it happen ?

Is it that easy?

And even if we keep walking thinking we are on the right path, what if we are on the wrong one?

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Probably not. Maybe amnesia is just part of the game. Lol.

Who defines “right” and “wrong?”

Some might say there is no right/wrong. (Bear in mind context, of course). Though considering what you mean - that’d probably be another reason for incarnation...

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abughaisan83 (56) · 7 years ago

after I read this post is very extraordinary and deep, it takes super energy to understand each line and its sentence .. Amazing posts @rok-sivante

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Yet, that energy is an investment unlocking more with immersion into these realms... ;-)

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abughaisan83 (56) · 7 years ago

I really agree @rok-sivante, thank you very much for responding my comments, I am very happy for your attention :)

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eurogee (65) · 7 years ago

I have to read this highly philosophical composition twice to be able to comment objectively, yet it's seems that I am not in sync with the realm of its parlance. May have to return to it again.

@eurogee

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

It’s the type that will speak to different people differently at different times, containing many seeds, for for different seasons and soils.

Would be rather interesting to see how it spoke to you differently a year, two years, five years, ten years from now... :-)

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