So, I've been reading @haejin articles just like half of this entire network for about two months. One of the things that struck me was his idea of prices being a quantum phenomena and happen irrespective of news or anything else. Price moves in pre-ordained existing patterns that repeat, and this appeals to me as a chemist. Kids don't grow linearly. They have growth spurts. It's like they level up. If kids do that and atoms do that, why not price and cryptos?
Orbitals
Modern chemistry shows that atoms are comprised of protons, neutrons, and electrons. The electrons orbit the nucleus holding protons and neutrons. As the electrons get more energy they go into larger shells that contain them. There are a few different types of shells called S orbitals, P orbitals, D orbitals and F orbitals. When you move from 1S to 2S the shape doesn't change. It just gets bigger. 2S and 2P look pretty different, so it's possible when energy levels get high enough that the pattern will shift, but for the mean time I can see similarity in chemistry orbitals of the same level and higher energy level (price) patterns in crypto prices.
In chemistry at least I can use something like a laser to elevate an electron from a low energy state to a high energy state. In price land the only variable I seem to have is time. The only real control I seem to have is timing.
Technical Analysis
The basic premise is that the patterns in the charts are likely to repeat. If you are able to discern the pattern then you have a leg up on your competition buying and selling coins. I'm sure to many it looks like reading tea leaves looking at charts and hoping there are patterns, but from what I can tell there are generally some highly repeating patterns worth looking into. I'm hardly an expert at the field at large but I'm able to recognize patterns.
Now, one might question if this is such a wonderful thing why don't people do it? The answer is... they do. Technical analysis seems to happen everywhere. One of the main things though is that it's harder to do for stocks. That's because the markets are so highly manipulated with high frequency trading and exchanges that buy ahead of customers.
It's harder to cheat buying and selling cryptos and basically impossible with decentralized exchanges (looking at you Bitshares).
Patterns:
I've been looking at litecoin. It already went up 30%. I had bough it around $120, rode what I thought at the time was the high, traded some out, lost money on those, and recently consolidated all my coins back into litecoin. One could legitimately say that I'm acting out of turn here. Seems a little nutz to buy in after a 30% gain in a few days, but I don't think we're done just yet. Far from it I think we're about to go nuclear. I think it enough to have put all my crypto eggs into that one basic (other than muh steem power). I believe Steem and SBD will get their turn too. Hopefully I'll catch those after I ride the litecoin blast.
litecoin charts
Here's a picture of litecoin.
Here's another one.
Those two look rather uncannily similar to me. What's really interesting is that they are taken months apart. The first one is the picture of litecoin when it's about to achieve a record high. The second one is where we are now.
Here's the total picture of where we are.
To me, as a non expert, having barely traded much, this looks like we are about to repeat the cycle that gave us the largest surge in LTC price that we've ever seen... only this time we're starting a little higher and looks to be roughly 10% stronger. We are going from the 1S orbital to the 2S orbital. That's how I can wrap my head around this.
As I said I consolidated my holdings into LTC at around $218 (I sold all the other stuff I bought at a loss and reconsolidated into ltc). I've put in a limit sell order for USDT at $406. I think the price surge will likely go around $420, but I'm trying to be a little conservative on a risky bet. I'm then hoping to catch the mini correction prior to an all time high and then truly cash out of litecoin (except to maybe but the first fat dip that looks likely to follow).
This is an experiment
I realized I didn't like trading lots of coins. Too much hassle and too much stuff to look at. I'm happier having just one coin and really only focusing on it's well being. That's contrary to not keeping ones eggs all in one basket... but in cryto we're all basically tied to btc anyway and since the market as a whole moves as a whole I'm not sure owning more than one crypto is truly a diversified portfolio anyway. I was losing sleep and time watching them all. I don't think that approach is for me.
If the experiment works I'll look to repeat it. I think Haejin's method for those that are comfortable buying and holding for a while is likely a better and safer long term play. Buy a coin at a suspected low point and then just ride it all the way to to the top. That's essentially his advice. He's just trying to give some extra pointers on where he sees the bottom and top.
The approach I'm going to try out while this market is rebounding is seeking out these patterns that show evidence nuclear explosion happening. It's a lot easier after a massive dip. So, I don't think I'll be trying this still in March. That seems tricky af, but we're all sorta expecting recoveries right about now since it looks like BTC bottomed out.
The plan
I want to get in literally a few days before a truly insane price breakout. So, I'm trying to catch them in the consolidation phase right before the nuclear pattern happens. Looks like for many coins that will follow a 30% increase. Again, this looks nutz on paper, but not if the charts actually repeat.
So, I'm pretty positive buying at the very lowest point is a better financial strat overall, but I'm not quite that patient. I get a little anxious, and I like large bets.
This plan isn't for everyone. There's a good chance of loss after buying right after a pump, but I'm willing to run this experiment and see if it's successful. It's not a method yet, just a hypothesis. Worst case I own a bunch of litecoin, which I think is an undervalued coin anyway even after a 30% pump.
Wish me luck.
Disclaimer
I'm not trying to give you advice. I'm trying to document my decisions on the block before events unfold. You gotta figure out what's right for you and your family. There's no way I can gauge your financial picture or ability to handle risk. Get a planner. Don't rely on my inexperienced ass thinking I can read tea leaves in charts.
There's other legal mumbo jumbo, but basically you gotta own your own risk suckah.
We'll see in a week or two if I'm a fool for buying after a 30% rise, a genius after predicting a rise, or a lucky guy who picked a crypto in a bull market during a correction, or just rando posting TA hoping that some whale gets lucky on the pick and ride that train as long as possible.
AS for #litecoin case
Old coins tend to have 2 waves up. 1 is legitimate rise on a burning market. 2 is a bull trap.
Be carefull.
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i have somecoin
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Great read, @aggroed, you almost made change all my cryptos to LTC with this post xD But nhaa, i prefer the HODL strategy i'm currently doing, my steps go:
1.Find a coin everyone is talking about
5.repeat every month ... i can't invest more than 200 bucks per month
Good luck, hopefully, you will have success with LTC, if you do, sell it all for STEEM xD
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I think Steem and SBD will get a turn. We'll likely see $10-15 steem this month or early next. I doubt it will last long, but we'll see.
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With all these new youtubers coming to Steemit price will surely rise... my only problem is that steemit might become like youtube, if i do good comments on steemit i get an answer either from the guy that made the post, or another person, but if i do it on youtube the guy that created the video doesn't give a single f$$$ for my comment, and most people also don't care...
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I gave you 82cents. That's a pretty big vote for me considering my vp is low and I delegate away 60k+ SP to projects that help the community.
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Thank you and BTW thank you very much for delegating that amount of SP to the projects, i'm in one of those projects the SteemStem one :)
Don't know if you delegate to that specific project but every project on steemit is good imo
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There is logic to the "all eggs in one basket" as I agree that you can't diversify within cryptos. I hope it works out :)
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Patterns do repeat, but in the end the MOST IMPORTANT RULE for success in investing is risk-reward ratio. All great money managers talk about this.
Paul Tudor Jones, considered one of the best in history. Never put on an investment that he didn't see a 5 to 1 on risk -reward scenario.
We can use charts to find those points. Let's take a look at LTC daily chart:
The candle circled in GOLD, was the entry candle as it formed the bullish u-turn pattern that I use for crypto buy signals.
Entry price is 130, down side is 100, which is bottom of that candle's wick.
Risking 30 - what are the profit targets? They are resistance points/prior tops.
If one think's LTC is going to the all time high again. Your risk reward is 8 to 1, which is great! You don't have to be right often to make money.
However, what are some nearer targets that could work for active trading as well:
First top is 191 = $61 profit. Second top is $212 = $82 potential profit. Third top is $265 = $135 potential profit.
Giving us a 2 to 1 ratio, 2.7 to 1 ratio and 4.5 to 1 ratio, respectively.
This is exactly what makes that entry so good. Not just that we got a reliable u-turn pattern entry, but that every trade scenario offers a sufficient risk-reward scenario.
Never take less than 2 to 1 and the higher the better.
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Good luck man!
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Calling the bottom on anything is a risky business, but certainly not impossible, because price patterns DO repeat. Many times you can trade just based on basic support/resistance levels, and they're pretty accurate - mostly because everyone else sees them as support/resistance. That said, fundamentals DO play a part in market movements, despite what Haejin may be saying (I don't follow him). But what you'll usually see is long-term trends developing because of fundamentals. Sure there may be short term action on news releases, but those often retrace anyway. Crypto is a bit more risky because of the limited history and limited fundamentals. Some have said technical analysis is useless in crypto, but I actually believe it is more useful in crypto because of the lack of fundamentals.
In any casae, good luck with your plan, and I for one don't think that buying after a 30% rise is insane. I missed buying LTC at $90 and instead bought at $180. Right before LTC went to $400.
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This experiment goes right it just proves we’re on an unprecedented an infantile adoption chart and not a bubble chart. I think it’s all looking like this in most of the top alt coins. I think the nov-dec “bubble was just a sign of what’s to come. Just think, all these coins started the new year at unprecedented heights, not only does that set the standard for the year but changes the way people look at a coin, take xrp for example I bought in at 21 cents and sold early at about 2$ i made 600$. Not a lot but not important. What’s important was That on Jan 1st xrpwas 2.12$ on the 4th 4$. The start of the year set a price for ripple much higher than it was only October the year prior. Soon all these altcoin icocoins will hit deadlines on their roadmaps and the ones with results will explode. The ones that don’t will die. It will be incredible to watch. @aggroed
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Thanks for sharing what you're doing @aggroed. This us basically got I got started with buying cryptos - bought ETH at a very low price, rode the wave as I could see it hitting new ATHs. Then, I just kept repeating it - buy low sell High. I then moved to LTC when it was around @40, sold near it's ATH, bought more during the dip in Jan, now I'm waiting again. I've done this with a few coins and have faired well so far, as well as having taken out most of my initial investment - so I'm playing with profit.
It's an interesting strategy to hold one specifically, but it definitely saves time in terms of consuming information and analysing it for 10 different clubs every so often!
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Goodluck mate! Seems nuts to me to put everything on LTC. Why don't u put everything on BTC then if everything is related to BTC?
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because I'm trying to time nuclear blasts not rises.
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Fair point, but why is ltc going to blast up in the upcoming days then?
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because LitePay was announced and comes out Feb 26.
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I know that, but everyone already knows that so my guess is that the recent 30% gain was because of that. But we sill see i guess
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yeah honestly im wondering if it will go up more when it actually comes out
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Owk from you analysis, I already see a trend but I don't think it would be right to jump into conclusions looking at the fact that we have just two results to Compare here. Would have been safer if this teen had repeated it's self several times over the years so am just gonna wait this out and see what happens ...Thanks for the analysis @aggroed
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can't blame you. I'm a little sheepish doin what I'm doin.
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Well it simply means you have the heart of a lion and that's what anyone who wants to succeed in crypto should have. I am new to the crypto world and that's why I am basically observing. I will soon start taking the bull by the horn like you too. Lolzz
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Prices move based on what people do (in cryptos - in stocks it's based on what algorithmic trading software does). Good traders are good at predicting what people will do.
TA works because there's a large group of people all looking at the same patterns. When they all see a pattern that indicates the price will rise they buy, causing the price to rise, and vice versa. So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Nothing wrong with that, just calling it like it is, and if you can also see the same patterns as everyone else then you can get in on the ups and downs that the group collectively creates. In a sort of ironic way it's kind of like a consensus mechanism for price movements.
In any case, you're a great dude and I really hope it works out for you. I have 50 LTC that i bought a while ago so I'm all for it "going nuclear". Me personally I just have a bunch of different coins that I like and I HODL and don't look at the prices much and focus 100% on STEEM!
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Yeah, this allows me to spend more time on steem actually. I'm less concerned checking on 8 cryptos and managing a portfolio of highly fluctuating monsters. I'm just gonna pick one at a time that I think is likely to moon. Hold that and see how it goes.
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Make a few good calls and then people will throw money at you to get early access to "aggroed's picks"!
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Hmmm... We'll see!!! Your idea. You can get them free. And pretty sure this won't work anywhere other than the bottom of the market when it's so much easier to spot and much more likely to happen. we'll see.
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price change is a common thing .. my own difficulty not do not know what to sell .. the color is too weak SBD .. haha
@aggroed
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nice concept with a amazing article...keep posting sir... ☺👍
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Great article and good strategy but risky. Love how you applied chemistry to it too. However I do believe LTC will moon this year and I am in the HODL club.
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You read my mind on this one. I fully believe litecoin is about to have a breakthrough. Especially with the lite pay stuff going on. The silver of the crypto universe is about to join the join the gold or damn close to it. Maybe not today, or a month from today. But this year is going to be a good year for litecoin. Thanks for sharing.
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Nice, analysis 😊
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Add me....I upvote on ur post....
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Very good dear @aggroed ... but by the concept of Planck... The electron needs a certain amount of energy to move to the top level...
But it gets unstable, and it can go back to its first level....
I hope the same thing doesn't happen with litecoin.
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Yeah, I think there's an excited state that relaxes back to a slightly higher base level, and that pattern repeats. Experiment is can can I, me, aggroed predict them?
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Wow I have never really thought about it in this manner before, but I guess it could, in fact, be true that price spurts occur following this quantum phenomena. It is hard knowing since everything going on in this space is really a speculative mania, but I could see very well where you are coming from. Really, the big thing here is spotting patterns like you said, which really if you ask me isn't that hard to do. Some people really just allow their emotions to dictate their trades, which usually never ends well.
I like what you did with with LTC hodlings, definitely far from over is right. LTC to the moon, just wait for the 26th and you will see for yourself.
Respect @conradsuperb
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I always reading heagin blog...nice writter..
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The chart shows litecoin is going up.
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a very meaningful post I like, with this potingan you I understand more how to play esteem thank you for the knowledge greetings know from me @teukuyusril
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Hmm, never expect you to say that though, putting one's eggs in a basket is risky and I have a fellow who blames himself for this act, true you don't have too much to be concerned about when doing just one coin, but what if the ship sink and one 2S orbit become 1S, what are you going to do.
And one more thing the idea of buying and holding till the market appreciate is gone, Pls trade it.
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Hello @aggroed
It is great to find the resemblance between the atomic model and the market price. but there is a major difference that makes it inapplicable.
Any physical phenomena is actually a pattern that repeats itself when the same conditions reappear, there is no subjective emotions there, which is not the case with market prices. Because prices are actually based upon human psychology. Elliot waves as the most common tool for market analysis is an endeavor to make patterns out of human behavior. That is why you can't predict prices regardless of the news. that is exactly why Technical Analysis should not be considered science.
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nice post,thanks for shearing.
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to be clear on my prediction I'm adding this comment. I think we'll be done with the nuclear blast within the next 72 hours.
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Postingan yang bagus,mari kita berbagi vote sabahat steemit
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Look at the bigger trend my friend. Do swing trades if day trade is not your thing. Most people find day trading very stressful (let the bots do that instead, one more extra stream of income).
Use daily chart instead of hourly, unless you are looking for an entry and short term momentum.
Weekly is the best to look for overall trend. Don't invest when weekly chart tells you that the coin has been pump 1000-2000%. If it's a good project it's probably overprice and might have a correction (get in these correction if you like the project).
If its crappy project most likely it will dump and die slowly. Unless fundamentally something changes and the project became alive again. It will have another pump.
And if you are new to trading, simply trade the high cap coins since it's been long enough to proof that is not a pump and dump.
New coins or ICOs is sort of a gamble so if you have a small capital I would stay away from ICOs for now.
As your capital grows you can diversify your portfolio. Also check out Digital Asset Array. It's basically holding of several digital asset you can invest into to have diversification.
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Excuse me @aggroed, that I interfere in such a valuable explanatory exercise of the most complex scenarios to see the world from one of its parts that in the case of Litecoin practically does not represent anything.
Hence, I propose that the example that you try to clarify with @haejin and his incomplete analyzes of the fractals in the handle that, as many people say, is like an arrow to see if you hit it. I believe that the analysis can not continue to be immersed in the use of physics or mathematics in high school.
What we see in the crypto space must already be taken to the quantum world, so I propose that it be analyzed from that perspective that would be more consistent and complex ... The sub-atomic world remains perplexed before the reality of expansion of the universe as is the world described and the epltation of the bit by human beings to create prosperity.
I also want to congratulate you because the example is very good that you analyze and very educative but cro that the tools are left corotas to those who say they know about the blokchain
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I also have Litecoin, This is good information. Thanks @aggroed
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thank you for writing this very useful article.
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Coins mentioned in post:
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very nice technology ..
i hope you will win.
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Nice
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This is wonderful,and good information for me,thanks you @aggroed
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I haven't followed the guy you're talking about, but I do see him all over the place on steemit and stocktwits. I understand folks either love him or hate him. I love him just because I think he's growing steem on other platforms (like stocktwits) and that's got to be good for the future here.
"prices being a quantum phenomena and happen irrespective of news or anything else."
Back in 2014 I had some extra time on my hands and looked into price movements over time with an idea to model forces acting on price. The original basis for my concepts seem to be fairly close to that statement.
That research produced a short ebook which you might find interesting. Here's the link, for you and anyone else who might be interested in a very alternative method of modeling prices. I hope you find it interesting.
Introduction To Lines Of Force - Modeling Post-Peak Price Behavior - pdf - 61 pages
As noted in the title, what I discovered was a method to model forces acting on price, particularly after price reaches a parabolic peak. Special interest might be paid to Fall Channels and their Exits, and the various types of Eyes. Good luck!
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The discussion is extraordinary. I got to know many things.
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Nice comparing of prices with chemistry molecules..
You chemistry part remember me my teacher..
What is the issue with haejin account.. Why people are flagging his commentors and articles..?
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Whoa! It's amazing how you could correlate chemistry and cryptocurrency. I've been reading a lot of blogs on cryptocurrencies trading, and charts but I find myself being more confused than I was but really reading your post gave me a bit of an insight, I want to really dive in this but having no solid basic understanding has been limiting me, if you can recommend a pathway for me that would be great. Many thanks for sharing this.
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Good, vollow & votes me @wannis
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crypto which is useful and your estimate is very good, hopefully the best friends
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I've been looking at litecoin.
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help likes have ya i want ya thank you
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Good vollow & votes me @wannis
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Science Chemistry is very broad science and has the benefit of the person you are a really successful person well done
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The 30% increase in the price litecoin happened because of hard fork rumours. So there is a chance that this is not a real growth. Thus there is a chance of loss here. But even after saying that i personally think that litecoin is on its way up. litecoin has already tested the 400$ mark and i believe it will taste those waters again. May be not in a short period but definitely in a long period of time.
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No one is talking about LitePay??? It comes out Feb 26 and the price shot up $80 when the announcement went out.
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I'm more inclined to see relation to chaos theory (also chemistry, statistical here, but also empirical - Belousov-Zhabotinsky reactions) and just randomness.
With technical analysis I see one big problem. Users happily share the future but are silent about the past. It's hard to find reviews on past investment decisions and patterns they were based off.
I've seen loads of technical analysis articles in December and early January and they almost completely dried out during market break down later in January.
Another problem is - if whole market is bullish, it's quite easy to have profits.
BTW, I'm planning to prepare certain technical analysis contest ;)
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Hey aggroed. You’re definitely on the right path here, so keep it up.
Price on a chart is just a reflection of human emotions in the form of supply/demand. You can see fair prices where buyer and sellers would like to do business and then the direction with the biggest upside potential will win the battle.
I love the way you put TA into chemistry terms. Well worth the read. 👍🏻
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