As Abraham Lincoln once said...
@jessewalden these types of systems tend to fail because you are NOT and cannot ever be a definitive copyright registry of record. As such the best you can say is "this user registered content with us on such and such time". Unless you are a Notary Public or a lawyer you cannot offer a service like that and stay within the bounds of the law. At least not in the USA.
Imagine if the actual creator failed to register with you. The content went viral and someone else registered the art with your service. You would be actively denying the actual creator of the content their money and you would be legally liable for any and all monies earned by the thief, because you are giving credibility to his claim when in fact you don't really know he made it, just that he had it and registered it.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble there guy.
Services like what you offer already exist and are too easy to game. They cost real content creators hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in lost revenues from simply trying to fight active denial registries.
What you describe though is exactly the type of system that causes problems like I describe here...
https://steemit.com/news/@williambanks/this-needs-to-stop-why-steem-will-win-in-the-battle-for-content-creators
I feel passionately about this because I used to be a musician, I had a ton music, some that I even released into the public domain. Someone took my original work, my entire CD that took me 2 years to compile and registered it with gracenote. They then sold the rights to a copyright troll.
Youtube pulled my account completely for copyright violations despite the fact it was ENTIRELY my original work and I could prove it. But gracenote claimed it was someone else's so it must be true right?
The couple of hundred dollars I was getting in ads from youtube didn't leave me with the resources to fight. I gave up and just quit music, what's the fun if I can't share it?
Copyright is just wrong minded in this day and age.
It doesn't serve it's intended purpose anymore. It doesn't encourage creators to create. It just robs the public domain for 100 years, assuming Disney doesn't get it extended to "forever minus one day" again like they almost did.
Patronage systems like we have here at steem and to a lesser extent, Patreon are the way forward. Creator is paid upfront what they earned and effectively releases the work to the public domain. If it turns out we have the wrong creator, well hell at least we know where the money went.
We already have a great method of limiting the damage here from stolen media. Cheetah, and he needs your help...
https://steemit.com/steemit/@anyx/an-open-letter-to-the-steemit-community-on-content-plagiarism-and-the-cheetah-bot
I implore you, if you see cheetah bot, always make sure to upvote him. @anyx is fighting a losing battle because he has to pay API costs for lookups in addition to server and hosting fees and content growth here is astronomical.
Cheetah works by actively scouting the web for content that is posted here and then automatically flagging posts that are straight up rips of content from other sites. That's the best way to control that sort of thing in here and @anyx has done a great job!
Thank you for the support! I like their proposal as well, simply because I think we need to attack this at different angles and see what sticks. To clarify, cheetah doesn't "flag" on detection, it more "notifies". Flagging implies downvoting here, which it does not do from detection, since it cannot be certain.
Also, @anyx, not @anz! :)
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OMG, I am so sorry about the misspelling on your name. I've updated the post.
Ok you built the bot, you know what it does and does not do better than I ever possibly could.
I still don't see the value add to a system like @jessewalden is proposing though. Maybe I'm just bitter having 2 years of work stolen from me with absolutely no recourse.
Systems like this worry me. Every time I read these proposals and they do come out every day or two on some forum or another, it's always "protect content, blockchain!" without any real thought into how a system like that would impact creators in a real world scenario, especially if they get big.
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Oh crap, you beat me to it. I saw that google charges $5 per 1,000 searches. The idea of the bot was going to do exactly the same thing. In other words, I think you made the right design decisions in only notifying rather than flagging, precisely due to the kinds of reasons @williambanks gave above.
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@williambanks thanks for the deep thought and response!
Absolutely agree with you that the system cannot be certain about correct attribution—claims of ownership are always subject to reputation.
For example, if i didn't see Leonardo Da Vinci paint the Mona Lisa, I have to trust that the placard displayed next to the painting at the Louvre Museum is well researched and correct. Effectively, i have to trust the Louvre Museum as an arbiter of reputation for the claim that Leonardo Da Vinci is the painter.
As a musician, you might appreciate this blog post I wrote titled What a blockchain for music really means? It explains:
This means you could filter claims by those that have been well researched by trusted parties, like the Louvre Museum, or the Cheetah Bot. Perhaps there is even a way to implement an incentivized voting system like Steem has, in order to crowdsource reputation for claims?
Our insight is that today, information about creative works is fractured across various siloed platforms and databases. (This is especially true in the music industry!) It's very difficult to discover all the things people have said about a unit of media in it's life online. Our goal is to build a single open network to collaboratively describe and make statements or claims about creative works, like attribution for the creator that persists across platforms. We think this is orders of magnitude better than the current state of affairs as it allows those claims and statements to be easily discovered and filtered by reputation.
For any developers curious to try it out, we posted a five minute tutorial to get setup with read/writes to the Mediachain testnet. The system is still skeletal at this point and more detailed documentation can be found here.
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